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      10-16-2024, 06:00 AM   #1
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Help Please N55 problem, car wont even crank, starter issue?

Hey guys!
So the wife took her 2013 x1 35i shopping and forgot to shut it off(had ear buds on) and ran out fuel. She was already near low and was going to fill up on the way home... So I grabbed 5gal of fuel and put it in her car.
The problem is it wouldn't even crank... Everything comes on just fine. I hear the fuel pump in the back working, also no battery problems(new battery and full of charge.
blows my mind that the car was running just fine and running out of fuel would do this. Thats why i`m thinking its a starter issue but who knows... if you need more info let me know. Any thoughts guys???
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      10-16-2024, 10:08 AM   #2
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Hey guys!
So the wife took her 2013 x1 35i shopping and forgot to shut it off(had ear buds on) and ran out fuel. She was already near low and was going to fill up on the way home... So I grabbed 5gal of fuel and put it in her car.
The problem is it wouldn't even crank... Everything comes on just fine. I hear the fuel pump in the back working, also no battery problems(new battery and full of charge.
blows my mind that the car was running just fine and running out of fuel would do this. Thats why i`m thinking its a starter issue but who knows... if you need more info let me know. Any thoughts guys???

Hard to say the starter is bad with just circumstantial evidence.

Any click or other sounds from the starter at least engaging when engine start is attempted?

I had another brand of car that manifested similar behavior. Car electronics appeared to come alive but no starter activity.

Long story short turned out to be a bad clutch safety interlock switch.

With an automatic transmission a bad shifter position switch could be the problem.

Another time with a similar no start problem the cause was due to a worn out ignition switch module. A wiggling of the key while turning the key would have the engine starting.

One more: With an approx. one year old MINI a no crank turned out to be a weak/bad battery in the key fob.
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      10-16-2024, 01:10 PM   #3
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Hard to say the starter is bad with just circumstantial evidence.

Any click or other sounds from the starter at least engaging when engine start is attempted?

I had another brand of car that manifested similar behavior. Car electronics appeared to come alive but no starter activity.

Long story short turned out to be a bad clutch safety interlock switch.

With an automatic transmission a bad shifter position switch could be the problem.

Another time with a similar no start problem the cause was due to a worn out ignition switch module. A wiggling of the key while turning the key would have the engine starting.

One more: With an approx. one year old MINI a no crank turned out to be a weak/bad battery in the key fob.

Thanks RockCrusher for the info.
So when I press the start button I hear a click in the front of the car but
thats about it. Also the whirl in the back under the seats.

The auto shifter is in park.

The key fob low battery light did come on so I replaced it but nothing unfortunately.

next Ill look into the clutch safety interlock switch.
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Thanks RockCrusher for the info.
So when I press the start button I hear a click in the front of the car but
thats about it. Also the whirl in the back under the seats.

The auto shifter is in park.

The key fob low battery light did come on so I replaced it but nothing unfortunately.

next Ill look into the clutch safety interlock switch.
You can check the switch.

That you hear a click suggests the starter circuit is getting energized which wouldn't happen if the clutch safety interlock switch was bad.

The click but no subsequent starter action could arise from bad cabling to or from (ground cable) the starter.

Of course it could be a bad starter solenoid. The solenoid doesn't fully engage the pinion gear with the ring gear and doesn't complete the starter motor electric connection. Or the connection is made but the starter is bad.
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