The official "Ask a cop/deputy anything!" thread

[DO444]

Originally Posted by ///d

And what is a dangerous breed?

I'm not sure what you're thoughts are behind dog breeds, but I'll say this;

There are no dangerous breeds, only irresponsible owners and/or unfortunate situations. I've been attacked, snarled at, chased by, and bitten by more small breed dogs and "family" breeds than any other. None of which are considered dangerous breeds by todays society, yet every "dangerous" breed I've encountered has been just fine. Difference is, small breed dogs usually don't do enough damage for people to report and everyone thinks it's "cute" they act bigger than they are, and large family breed dogs don't get reported because everyone sees it as an honest and innocent mistake, but if it's a breed of dog that the media tells us we should fear because they look mean then it becomes a big deal and all dogs in that breed get a bad rep (kind of like something else the media tells us to fear). Unfortunately the less respectable communities tend to gravitate towards those mean looking breeds and train them accordingly, contributing to the media and society's unfavorable and skewed perception of them.

Animals get stressed just like humans, they react to situations, to stress, to fear, just like any living creature. And sometimes, just like humans, they lose their senses and do bad things. Has nothing to do with breed.

Don’t be ridiculous.
A Shiba Inu is not the same as a pitbull.

Some breeds are inherently dangerous and the vast majority of humanoids cannot hope to possibly ever appropriately train them to be safe in society, as opposed to a shih tzu which regardless of how shitty an owner you are, isn’t going to kill anyone ever unless they are 6” tall and weight 3lbs.

Your entire assertion is flat out wrong, and demonstrably false.

[dmatre]

Originally Posted by ///d

And what is a dangerous breed?

I'm not sure what you're thoughts are behind dog breeds, but I'll say this;

There are no dangerous breeds, only irresponsible owners and/or unfortunate situations. I've been attacked, snarled at, chased by, and bitten by more small breed dogs and "family" breeds than any other. None of which are considered dangerous breeds by todays society, yet every "dangerous" breed I've encountered has been just fine. Difference is, small breed dogs usually don't do enough damage for people to report and everyone thinks it's "cute" they act bigger than they are, and large family breed dogs don't get reported because everyone sees it as an honest and innocent mistake, but if it's a breed of dog that the media tells us we should fear because they look mean then it becomes a big deal and all dogs in that breed get a bad rep (kind of like something else the media tells us to fear). Unfortunately the less respectable communities tend to gravitate towards those mean looking breeds and train them accordingly, contributing to the media and society's unfavorable and skewed perception of them.

Animals get stressed just like humans, they react to situations, to stress, to fear, just like any living creature. And sometimes, just like humans, they lose their senses and do bad things. Has nothing to do with breed.

I’ve never seen reports of anyone killed by a pack of chihuahuas….

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by dmatre

I’ve never seen reports of anyone killed by a pack of chihuahuas….

According to a web search, there are actually two recorded fatalities from chihuahua attacks. Makes me wonder if the victims died from laughing at the dogs for being so brazen?????

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

According to a web search, there are actually two recorded fatalities from chihuahua attacks. Makes me wonder if the victims died from laughing at the dogs for being so brazen?????

This...is why I keep coming here. Seriously, where else are you going to have so much fun.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by dradernh

This...is why I keep coming here. Seriously, where else are you going to have so much fun.

Must have been the diuretics talking.....

[vreihen16]

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/...k/70203649007/

Speaking of dangerous breeds and LEO, a deputy in Indiana was killed by a dog that wasn't hers in her own home on Tuesday evening. A responding Indianapolis PD officer dispatched the dog, after it charged at them.

In a statement, Indianapolis Animal Care Services said workers impounded the deceased dog, three additional dogs and a cat from the home. The department said they cannot confirm the breeds without a DNA test, but said all the dogs appeared to be a "pitbull-type."

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/...k/70203649007/

Speaking of dangerous breeds and LEO, a deputy in Indiana was killed by a dog that wasn't hers in her own home on Tuesday evening. A responding Indianapolis PD officer dispatched the dog, after it charged at them.

I really don't like dealing with the dangerous breeds, especially around here. I would readily shoot one before I allowed it to attack me.

[1209582]

seen a vid of a pit maul a grown man to death. seems like its game over once it latches onto you. btw what happens when a k9 encounters an aggressive dog?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by 1209582

seen a vid of a pit maul a grown man to death. seems like its game over once it latches onto you. btw what happens when a k9 encounters an aggressive dog?

It is very difficult to neutralize a pit bull that has latched onto you. Our K9’s wouldn’t be released with an aggressive dog around. We clear the area of all animals, civilians, officers, etc. before a K9 is cut loose. It will bite anybody outside of the green zone (…aka…outside of the main group).

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

...before a K9 is cut loose.

Launch the fur missile!!!!!

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I really don't like dealing with the dangerous breeds, especially around here. I would readily shoot one before I allowed it to attack me.

This is why I never walk our small dog in parks or if I see a big dog approaching on a lead as it should be then I carry him. We don't have the luxury of carrying pistols over here so a concealed truncheon or small aerosol hair spray used as a last resort could well save a pooch should the unthinkable start to unfold.

[M5Rick]

Had to put this on as I thought I'd seen it all but an 11 YO schoolboy yes you heard that right was threatening police with a knife,known as 'blades' in the criminal community, and filming it all on social media via his mobile phone at the same until officers were forced to taser him for his and their own safety and there were no reported serious injuries after.
Interested on how this would compare with action taken in US.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...iday-park.html

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Had to put this on as I thought I'd seen it all but an 11 YO schoolboy yes you heard that right was threatening police with a knife,known as 'blades' in the criminal community, and filming it all on social media via his mobile phone at the same until officers were forced to taser him for his and their own safety and there were no reported serious injuries after.
Interested on how this would compare with action taken in US.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...iday-park.html

Here in the U.S., “Blades” would’ve been known as “Heater” and he would’ve had a 9mm handgun. He would’ve been shot after pointing the gun at law enforcement and it would’ve been the cop’s fault. The media would’ve paraded around photos of “Heater” in the 5th grade with slacks and a bow tie, and exclaimed how he was an Honor Roll student and didn’t deserve his fate.

[jamesinaz]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Here in the U.S., “Blades” would’ve been known as “Heater” and he would’ve had a 9mm handgun. He would’ve been shot after pointing the gun at law enforcement and it would’ve been the cop’s fault. The media would’ve paraded around photos of “Heater” in the 5th grade with slacks and a bow tie, and exclaimed how he was an Honor Roll student and didn’t deserve his fate.

You got it. As a cop you are supposed to wait until the perp actually shoots or stabs you before reacting with any force. And then you should shoot the gun out of his hand. . /sarcasm

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Had to put this on as I thought I'd seen it all but an 11 YO schoolboy yes you heard that right was threatening police with a knife,known as 'blades' in the criminal community, and filming it all on social media via his mobile phone at the same until officers were forced to taser him for his and their own safety and there were no reported serious injuries after.
Interested on how this would compare with action taken in US.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...iday-park.html

See! Told ya! “Heater” doing his thing, only he decided to grab a rifle instead of the hypothetical 9mm.

https://kfiam640.iheart.com/content/...urce=instagram

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

See! Told ya! “Heater” doing his thing, only he decided to grab a rifle instead of the hypothetical 9mm.

https://kfiam640.iheart.com/content/...urce=instagram

Aha right, it's unclear over here where such a young lad suspected of murder would be held should something like this happen here, borstal type prisons for youths don't exist any more and are called 'youth detention centres' so probably a separate part of any prison specially for very young killers.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Aha right, it's unclear over here where such a young lad suspected of murder would be held should something like this happen here, borstal type prisons for youths don't exist any more and are called 'youth detention centres' so probably a separate part of any prison specially for very young killers.

It gets murky here, but juveniles can’t be housed with adults, so we use the youth detention centers or clear out a portion of the jails to house a juvenile.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

It gets murky here, but juveniles can’t be housed with adults, so we use the youth detention centers or clear out a portion of the jails to house a juvenile.

Naturally and the killer probably even away from the 'run of the mill' juveniles who've committed lesser crimes.

[Murf the Surf]

Don't know if this is the right thing to post here but I got it on a Police Forum I'm on and thought it was interesting. Except for some of the case law the sentiment is accurate for police officers who work in western democracies. It does a good job of summing up the complexities of police work.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

Don't know if this is the right thing to post here but I got it on a Police Forum I'm on and thought it was interesting. Except for some of the case law the sentiment is accurate for police officers who work in western democracies. It does a good job of summing up the complexities of police work.

That was a good video.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

That was a good video.

Yes it was brother. Play safe.

[UncleWede]

If the white car makes a left in front of the brown car and as a result of that collision only the brown car hits my parked truck with just over 2000 miles and only two payments made, do I go after white or brown insurance?

White car doesn’t seem to be a listed driver on insurance. Brown car is unlicensed

Yeah, that’s why I have uninsured coverage