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08-17-2022, 12:10 PM | #45 |
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A bit strange that bmw is showing of the m ev test mule this early, are they trying to one up a competitor? The c63 is coming out soon but that's just a hybrid.
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In exchage for superior throttle response/0-60 times, we are taking multiple steps back in the realm of weight, range, cost to consumers, track performance/longevity, and "engagement" to the driver in the form of gears and sound. It'll take decades to improve in those metrics but who knows how close it will match say the current crop of ICE cars. To add to that, having to create a whole new EV infrastructure when an ICE one already exists is both lengthy and costly. In order to keep up with competitors an EV M3 must happen, but all this fracas to kill off every last ICE car (ofc not BMW's fault) is just pushing it too far.
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The writing is on the wall - all manufacturers are going to do this at some point because the fines, regulations, and other legal BS will be so great that they won't have a choice. I love my turbochargers and I6s, but one day we'll wake up and most of that will be gone - just like the manual transmission. This isn't RIP BMW, this is RIP ICE. I have some hope that the Porsche synthetic fuel will keep the ICE around a bit longer, but I'm not holding my breath.
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All I can hope for is that BMW finds a way to make their EVs lighter and better handling than competitors. I'll bolt on some speakers for fake ICE noises and call it a day.
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You guys are too funny why is it that Porsche was able to figure out how to build an excellent electric car.
Now that BMW is doing it.. you guys want to cry. Trust me Bmw has been working on this for many years you guys are now just starting to hear about it. You guys do realize that the current generation M cars were already approved and signed off many years and years ago before it was ever released. Trust me Bmw has been working on electrification since the i3. |
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Never mind, in any case: synthetic fuels will no doubt be more cost-effective to produce by 2030, by which point electro-evangelism will have run out of zeal and BMW M may be thinking again about cylinders.
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This is an artificial shift that's not backed up by consumer demand, and in the business world that's a recipe for disaster. IMO if they placed their focus in the area of charging or different batteries that would go a long way with the consumer. Outside of cost, the charging time and availability of chargers is the biggest hurdle for a consumer. They should change the battery design to be removable, so instead of sitting at a charger for an hour or more, you could pull up and swap out your dead battery for a fully charged one. |
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And as someone already posted, don't focus on the car you see here…it's completely irrelevant…it's about testing the drivetrain with M components like suspension in order to get a feel for a more performance focused EV car. |
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Like this one too. Tesla started selling cars in 2008 but that was their try out roaster. The model S has been around since 2012. Educate yourself and stop spreading your dumb bs. And I am not even an EV fan but stick to facts. |
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Rivian's around 800hp and 960tq; 4 motor.
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so the next M3 is a BEV! |
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Marketing stuff, anyway very special these days at BMW if you think what we have seen lately |
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