Top Spec Dodge Challenger SRT8 pricing $37,995

WolfsburgerMitFries · 11-29-2007, 07:41 AM

Hot off the presses, the top spec Dodge Challegner SRT8 with a 6.1L V8 starts at $37,995.

http://www.redletterdodge.com/2007/1...enger-pricing/

Details on MY2009 drivetrains was leaked about 10 days ago. Take note, 6 speed manuals (Tremec T-56 by the way) have a limited slip differential...

http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html

atr_hugo · 11-29-2007, 07:51 AM

Is that Sedona Red? ; -) Good gawd a 3.92 rear gear in the manual cars, 0-60 timing will be interesting!! Thanks for the update on the Challenger Wolf!

1ster · 11-29-2007, 08:00 AM

Looks very good, and the pricing is excellent. I still have no desire to own one, but Chrysler has done a good job of it on paper.

Now the question is: how does it drive?

NJKSC27 · 11-29-2007, 08:25 AM

3.92 rear gear in the manual cars :eyebulge:

larryn · 11-29-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by atr_hugo

Is that Sedona Red? ; -) Good gawd a 3.92 rear gear in the manual cars, 0-60 timing will be interesting!! Thanks for the update on the Challenger Wolf!

The tranny gearing makes up for the quicker rear end:

Borg Warner 6sp T-56 Gear Ratios
1st 2.66:1
2nd 1.78:1
3rd 1.30:1
4th 1.00:1
5th 0.74:1
6th 0.50:1

Nornally, a 1:1 gear ratio would be at 5th gear. This tranny uses 4th, and has 5th and 6th as two overdrive speeds.

On the 135i 6sp, it's a 3.08:1 diff and:
1st 4.06:1
2nd 2.40:1
3rd 1.58:1
4th 1.19:1
5th 1.00:1
6th 0.87:1

atr_hugo · 11-29-2007, 08:59 AM

Ah, makes sense - it's a fuel mileage fifth/sixth gear (6.1L of pure gas pump ; -)

BForbes · 11-29-2007, 10:10 AM

Damn...i love that car. My two concerns are how does it handle in regards to the 135i and what is the mpg. I'm sure acceleration times will be similiar despite the alleged 125hp difference...

dsm9 · 11-29-2007, 11:04 AM

I personally like the Camaro better but this thing still rocks

BMWeber · 11-29-2007, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larryn

The tranny gearing makes up for the quicker rear end:

Borg Warner 6sp T-56 Gear Ratios
1st 2.66:1
2nd 1.78:1
3rd 1.30:1
4th 1.00:1
5th 0.74:1
6th 0.50:1

Nornally, a 1:1 gear ratio would be at 5th gear. This tranny uses 4th, and has 5th and 6th as two overdrive speeds.

On the 135i 6sp, it's a 3.08:1 diff and:
1st 4.06:1
2nd 2.40:1
3rd 1.58:1
4th 1.19:1
5th 1.00:1
6th 0.87:1

ya American cars use more gears for better fuel economy not performance. almost all American trannys as they gain more gears they just gain an extra overdrive

4 speed 4th gear 1:1
5 speed 5th gear .8:1
6 speed 6th Greer .5-.7:1

atr_hugo · 11-29-2007, 11:16 AM

That things going to have fuel mileage numbers in the order of 13 City / 34 Highway. ; -)

Euro Durch Tod · 11-29-2007, 12:10 PM

The car is gorgeous though, It looks extremely similar to the originals. The gas milage will prolly be horrible so ill stick with the 1

BForbes · 11-29-2007, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atr_hugo

That things going to have fuel mileage numbers in the order of 13 City / 34 Highway. ; -)

If it can get 30mpg on the highway, its REALLY got my attention.

Templedogg · 11-29-2007, 12:55 PM

The way Dodge dealers are you will be extremely lucky to get one for less than $5K over MSRP with their ADM crap! Most will be more than $5K I bet.

Crowley · 11-29-2007, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atr_hugo

That things going to have fuel mileage numbers in the order of 13 City / 34 Highway. ; -)

If they did their homework like Chevy .. my 2001 SS (5.7L) got 30mpg highway .. not bad at all for a V8 engine ..

Crowley

WolfsburgerMitFries · 11-29-2007, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onehots2k

Damn...i love that car. My two concerns are how does it handle in regards to the 135i and what is the mpg. I'm sure acceleration times will be similiar despite the alleged 125hp difference...

See, this is why cars are such a toss up. We all know that the 1 series will crush the Challenger in many categories...fuel economy, braking, acceleration, manuverability, really just all around driving. But the Challenger has a certian style that stands out, plus if you travel or carry 3 other adults, the Challenger will be more comfortable and roomy without being SUV-like bulky. Either car will have a great residual. I'm just getting a little tired of being another A-hole in a BMW.

I'm waiting for information on the MY2009 Challneger. That's when keyless go will be available, and the 5.7L R/T gets a significantly upgraded Hemi with variable valve timing developing 375hp and significant gains in fuel economy.
Once again, all the early adoptors (in this case, lining up for the 1st year SRT8 versions) are gonna get burned.

The bad side is the company you keep. I've read the Challenger blogs, and I've never seen such a group of simpletons bitching about irrational nonsense as those guys. Its a little odd around here at times, but its a world ahead of those guys I'll assure you.

atr_hugo · 11-29-2007, 05:03 PM

Hey Wolf, will the 5.7L come with the cylinder deactivation? That's some good dog food!

WolfsburgerMitFries · 11-29-2007, 05:09 PM

Yeah the new 5.7L has cylinder deactivation, just like the old. The SRT8 6.1L does not. Cylinder deactivation engines require a very light 5W20 oil for the actuator to function, and I'm a little skeptical of oil that thin.

Also take note, SRT variants (Caliber, Challenger, Viper...Etc.) do NOT have the lifetime powertrain warranty. So the 5.7L R/T is really going to be the way to go.
http://www.chrysler.com/en/lifetime_...ranty/faq.html

1ster · 11-29-2007, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfsburgerMitFries

The bad side is the company you keep. I've read the Challenger blogs, and I've never seen such a group of simpletons bitching about irrational nonsense as those guys. Its a little odd around here at times, but its a world ahead of those guys I'll assure you.

Yup. Evos and STIs have similar problems. I think Miata.net is half of why I keep buying Miatas. This place certainly helps keep me interested in the 1er. :smile:

imported_MPower · 11-29-2007, 05:40 PM

I can see into the future and can already tell that the Camaro and Challenger are going to tempt me away from a 135i when I go to buy in a few years.

WolfsburgerMitFries · 11-29-2007, 06:40 PM

Also, I'm seeing that SRT8 Challengers will get a $2100.00 Gas Guzzler tax, bringing the actual base price up to $40,095. Ahem...I hate to sound like a broken record, but the 5.7L R/T is the way to go.

Nixon · 11-29-2007, 08:35 PM

I was poking around the link from the first post, and someone was saying the R/T might be under 30k. That would make things interesting -- but considering the source.....

It looks like it would hold more dead bodies in the trunk than a 135i/128i. That's got to count for something.

kurichan · 11-29-2007, 09:14 PM

Damn that car is gorgeous. So is the Camero. Wish we could say that about the 135i.

Americans beating the Germans on design? Who'da thunk it?

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WolfsburgerMitFries Lieutenant 12 Rep 445 Posts Drives: BMW 3er Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lexington, KY iTrader: (0)	Top Spec Dodge Challenger SRT8 pricing $37,995 Hot off the presses, the top spec Dodge Challegner SRT8 with a 6.1L V8 starts at $37,995. http://www.redletterdodge.com/2007/1...enger-pricing/ Details on MY2009 drivetrains was leaked about 10 days ago. Take note, 6 speed manuals (Tremec T-56 by the way) have a limited slip differential... http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html
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atr_hugo No longer moderate 325 Rep 4,401 Posts Drives: '13 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - iTrader: (0)	Is that Sedona Red? ; -) Good gawd a 3.92 rear gear in the manual cars, 0-60 timing will be interesting!! Thanks for the update on the Challenger Wolf!
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1ster Large Member 164 Rep 937 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2007 iTrader: (0)	Looks very good, and the pricing is excellent. I still have no desire to own one, but Chrysler has done a good job of it on paper. Now the question is: how does it drive?
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NJKSC27 automobile aficionado 111 Rep 1,021 Posts Drives: Join Date: Sep 2007 iTrader: (0)	3.92 rear gear in the manual cars :eyebulge:
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atr_hugo No longer moderate 325 Rep 4,401 Posts Drives: '13 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - iTrader: (0)	Ah, makes sense - it's a fuel mileage fifth/sixth gear (6.1L of pure gas pump ; -)
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atr_hugo No longer moderate 325 Rep 4,401 Posts Drives: '13 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - iTrader: (0)	That things going to have fuel mileage numbers in the order of 13 City / 34 Highway. ; -)
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Euro Durch Tod Private First Class 6 Rep 106 Posts Drives: mustang Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: ny iTrader: (0)	The car is gorgeous though, It looks extremely similar to the originals. The gas milage will prolly be horrible so ill stick with the 1
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Templedogg Captain 49 Rep 799 Posts Drives: 135i, Trailblazer SS, 1934 PU Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lake Stevens, WA iTrader: (1)	The way Dodge dealers are you will be extremely lucky to get one for less than $5K over MSRP with their ADM crap! Most will be more than $5K I bet.
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atr_hugo No longer moderate 325 Rep 4,401 Posts Drives: '13 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - iTrader: (0)	Hey Wolf, will the 5.7L come with the cylinder deactivation? That's some good dog food!
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WolfsburgerMitFries Lieutenant 12 Rep 445 Posts Drives: BMW 3er Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lexington, KY iTrader: (0)	Yeah the new 5.7L has cylinder deactivation, just like the old. The SRT8 6.1L does not. Cylinder deactivation engines require a very light 5W20 oil for the actuator to function, and I'm a little skeptical of oil that thin. Also take note, SRT variants (Caliber, Challenger, Viper...Etc.) do NOT have the lifetime powertrain warranty. So the 5.7L R/T is really going to be the way to go. http://www.chrysler.com/en/lifetime_...ranty/faq.html
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Nixon Banned 57 Rep 1,396 Posts Drives: : Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: : iTrader: (0)	I was poking around the link from the first post, and someone was saying the R/T might be under 30k. That would make things interesting -- but considering the source..... It looks like it would hold more dead bodies in the trunk than a 135i/128i. That's got to count for something.
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kurichan Mr. Happy 8 Rep 479 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2007 iTrader: (0)	Damn that car is gorgeous. So is the Camero. Wish we could say that about the 135i. Americans beating the Germans on design? Who'da thunk it?
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