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Cobb Tuning got fined $2.9M: why just them?

There are tons of folks making catless downpipes and tunes, and just Cobb Tuning gets fined?
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a6...efeat-devices/
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There are tons of folks making catless downpipes and tunes, and just Cobb Tuning gets fined?
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a6...efeat-devices/
Not just Cobb -- see further in the article:

"Signs of potential litigation from the EPA have circled Cobb since 2022, when (...) the EPA placed a major focus on aftermarket companies and emissions regulations (and) several other tuners were hit with large penalties for their role in the distribution of those parts."

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Not a political post...

The recent SCOTUS ruling on Chevron vs. Natural Resources Defense Council should be an opportunity for COBB to void this Agreement they were forced to reach with the EPA.
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Not a political post...

The recent SCOTUS ruling on Chevron vs. Natural Resources Defense Council should be an opportunity for COBB to void this Agreement they were forced to reach with the EPA.
Absolutely agree.

Not to get political, but it really feels like instead of going after a small number of people and companies modifying cars, the EPA could be doing a lot better at protecting people and the environment by doing something about micro plastics.
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Absolutely agree.

Not to get political, but it really feels like instead of going after a small number of people and companies modifying cars, the EPA could be doing a lot better at protecting people and the environment by doing something about micro plastics.
I'd like to see the data that shows Cobb's emissions defeat products actually emit more pollution than a car with 100,000 miles on the original cats.

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Old news, but the Cobb State 1 tune ran cleaner than the stock tune on my 2005 WRX (not sure about Stage 2). It was amazing. The place where I got the car dyno'd also provides the sniff-stations with equipment, so they have it there for anyone wanting to see how clean their car runs after a tune (weird that it's mostly idling). Anyway, I agree that there are much bigger fish to fry, and much bigger monies to be had, not sure why they are bothering with Cobb.
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Why aren't they or individual states going after the coal dumping pickup trucks? Not only do they pollute infinitely more, they only exist to inflame, aggravate, annoy, and create dangerous situations.
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Old news, but the Cobb State 1 tune ran cleaner than the stock tune on my 2005 WRX (not sure about Stage 2). It was amazing. The place where I got the car dyno'd also provides the sniff-stations with equipment, so they have it there for anyone wanting to see how clean their car runs after a tune (weird that it's mostly idling). Anyway, I agree that there are much bigger fish to fry, and much bigger monies to be had, not sure why they are bothering with Cobb.
It's a fear tactic. They did this in the diesel world too. Everyone knows who Cobb is, they go after the big names like Cobb, and everyone else is like "oh crap". Their hope is it makes an example of Cobb, it the equivalent of a public hanging in the town square. Cobb has enough variety of markets it serves that everyone will hear and be afraid.
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Why aren't they or individual states going after the coal dumping pickup trucks? Not only do they pollute infinitely more, they only exist to inflame, aggravate, annoy, and create dangerous situations.
Beyond your complete ignorance about diesels, they already did. They ruined a ton of people's businesses that they worked hard to build up because they sold products that the EPA deemed no good.

As an aside, diesels produce short term pollutants. They dissipate very quickly and break down into harmless constituent particles. They produce a lot less greenhouse gas like CO2, but the EPA has never really liked diesels, and so have effectively regulated them out of the passenger car market in the US. "Rolling coal" is just having too much fuel, effectively running really rich, which i guess is better than running too lean for the motor, but still not ideal.tuning.
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Why aren't they or individual states going after the coal dumping pickup trucks? Not only do they pollute infinitely more, they only exist to inflame, aggravate, annoy, and create dangerous situations.
LOL so true.
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