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      06-27-2022, 02:00 PM   #45
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The downside? It'll be a 6spd that'll never be driven.
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Their design sessions went something like this:

BMW designers: "I've got it! Make the M4, change the bumper, maybe a few interior bits and let's call it the '3.0 CSL Revival!, huh? Huh? Brilliant right?"

BMW fans: 😐
In fairness, BMW fans do that no matter what BMW does, soooo...
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      06-27-2022, 02:10 PM   #48
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This not a $600K car… this is $200K car. BMW is not yet on the same level of as Porsche or Aston Martin. Porsche can charge almost $1 million for the 918 Spyder because it's a true HyperCar. Timeless design. I think Bmw really needs to understand what they're doing! And who they're catering to and if they're catering to young generation of people who don't know any better, than people who are non-purist will buy this just because of the badge.

Two things are happening with Bmw in the marketplace right now.

Board members have become greedy and their share holders have become greedy and now they are selling and marketing purely based on their badge and the brand BMW.


They are losing money due to electrification requirements and therefore have become desperate and now we're trying to make billions of dollars to transition their lineup to electrification.

I do not believe this is an M4 converter it's supposedly handbuilt the chassis may be shared.
but it does not justify the money that they are asking, specially considering what you can buy for a lot less.
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      06-27-2022, 02:19 PM   #49
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This not a $600K car… this is $200K car. BMW is not yet on the same level of as Porsche or Aston Martin. Porsche can charge almost $1 million for the 918 Spyder because it's a true HyperCar. Timeless design. I think Bmw really needs to understand what they're doing! And who they're catering to and if they're catering to young generation of people who don't know any better, than people who are non-purist will buy this just because of the badge.

Two things are happening with Bmw in the marketplace right now.

Board members have become greedy and their share holders have become greedy and now they are selling and marketing purely based on their badge and the brand BMW.


They are losing money due to electrification requirements and therefore have become desperate and now we're trying to make billions of dollars to transition their lineup to electrification.

I do not believe this is an M4 converter it's supposedly handbuilt the chassis may be shared.
but it does not justify the money that they are asking, specially considering what you can buy for a lot less.
Isn't the price level a moot point anyway?
I think they are all sold out already. Proves they did not charge too much…
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Rear spoiler is super hot.
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      06-27-2022, 02:35 PM   #51
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So Lemetier said this about its prototype (https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...postcount=25):

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It's a GT Motorsport platform that underpins both the M8GTE/LM and M4 GT3. P58 engine up front, hybridized LMDh transaxle in the back.
And also (https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...postcount=36):

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The misleading 3 = BMW Motorsport; not 3=US

GT = GT Development Variant (Transaxle arrangement)

H: References to Hommage, Homologation, and Hybrid have been used; all 3 would be accurate.

Transmission MAN = Automated Conventional Manual
Of course, that could've just pertained to the prototype, and this is really just a M4 CSL with altered body parts and a 6MT, but maybe...
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Tough crowd. I'm optimistic that the final product will impress and would be interested if it came Stateside.
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      06-27-2022, 02:54 PM   #53
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I like the grill, really
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      06-27-2022, 02:55 PM   #54
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It's not bad, but it looks like they tasked the engineers with making it look like the Homage with only using the M4 chassis.

A 600hp manual S58 they said? I'm guessing they're using a new clutch since the base model "can't handle 500"
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Tough crowd. I'm optimistic that the final product will impress and would be interested if it came Stateside.
Insiders hinted in the same thread mbanck quoted above that few were bought by us market owners... if you didn't get an invitation for 1/50 you were never getting one

while not officially road legal all that really means is they cannot be registered/insured/street driven, but can be kept in storage and displayed
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while not officially road legal all that really means is they cannot be registered/insured/street driven, but can be kept in storage and displayed
Irrelevant to anyone with the dough and clout to buy one, they'd sit in storage sealed until they are ready to resell, likely when BMW announces the next M3/M4 will be fully EV.
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This not a $600K car… this is $200K car. BMW is not yet on the same level of as Porsche or Aston Martin. Porsche can charge almost $1 million for the 918 Spyder because it's a true HyperCar. Timeless design. I think Bmw really needs to understand what they're doing! And who they're catering to and if they're catering to young generation of people who don't know any better, than people who are non-purist will buy this just because of the badge.

Two things are happening with Bmw in the marketplace right now.

Board members have become greedy and their share holders have become greedy and now they are selling and marketing purely based on their badge and the brand BMW.


They are losing money due to electrification requirements and therefore have become desperate and now we're trying to make billions of dollars to transition their lineup to electrification.

I do not believe this is an M4 converter it's supposedly handbuilt the chassis may be shared.
but it does not justify the money that they are asking, specially considering what you can buy for a lot less.
Yes, it's a joke. They're an investment because of volume. Might as well have sold an NFT.
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while not officially road legal all that really means is they cannot be registered/insured/street driven, but can be kept in storage and displayed
Irrelevant to anyone with the dough and clout to buy one, they'd sit in storage sealed until they are ready to resell, likely when BMW announces the next M3/M4 will be fully EV.
I think we'll get a hybrid first. An EV would alienate too many buyers.
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The grill looks better.
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That grille is 1000000x better
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      06-27-2022, 04:09 PM   #61
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Maybe nitpicking but I was really hoping for a proper Hofmeister kink for such a special vehicle and not the Mustang side profile we got with the M4
They should've used the M2 as the base. It's got the correct shape.
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Ok so I think they are camouflaging a LOT of details here. Look at the circled area and compare to the concept. Something is going on here.

I also think they are hiding the entire shape of the actual headlights—as well as the same lower curve line that was on the concept (see 2nd area I circled closer to the bottom)
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I hate this grill. The M3/M4 one is way better. This looks like a pig nose. The good parts of this concept are its headlights (which are faded away in trade for M3/M4), and the rare shape which is muted but still present. The MT in it is also cool
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It doesn't look much different compare to a regular m4. Couple of inch wider and 1 or 2 inch lower would do it.
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Disappointing and stupid.

Instead of spending time and resources on this nonsense that nobody can afford, spend 1/4th the effort on making another affordable 1 series M car that most would find more engaging and fun.
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