Still want an EV?

[Car-Addicted]

Maybe part of the cure that ails us

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Poor phone signal is hitting the UK’s electric car drivers
04/08/2024
Electric vehicle (EV) drivers could struggle to use around two-thirds of Britain’s most common type of public chargepoint because of patchy mobile signals.
The study found that 66% of Type-2 chargers – which have speeds of up to 8kw – in Britain excluding London are in areas where at least one mobile network provider does not have usable 4G coverage.
“Where signal connectivity at a chargepoint is a problem, drivers might conclude that the charger is at fault, hence undermining the confidence we should be building in the reliability of public charging options for electric vehicles.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/m...-b2524984.html

Happened to me the other day, I was trying to fill up my Toyota Tacoma ICE and I didn't have cell service so I ran out of gas trying to find cell service. NOT

Similar thing happen to me too. I drove my car to the touchless car wash. For some reasons, my phone cannot generate the car wash code due to wifi connection at the gas station. No car wash for me on that day and I can live with it. If this is happen to EV charging issue, that will piss off a lot of the EV drivers

[Car-Addicted]

Tesla Trial to Size Up Cause of Fatal Autopilot Crash: Driver or Tech
April 8, 2024
Tesla is preparing for one of the biggest tests of its driver-assistant Autopilot: defending the company’s position that drivers, not the automaker, are ultimately responsible for crashes that involve the technology.
In a wrongful-death suit set for trial this week, a jury will determine who is at fault in the 2018 fatal crash involving 38-year-old Apple
engineer Walter Huang. The driver died on Highway 101 in California after his Model X sport-utility vehicle crashed into a highway barrier while he was using Tesla’s driver-assistance technology.



Tesla says Huang is responsible because he was playing a videogame while the vehicle was engaged in Autopilot. Government investigators and the Huangs agree that he was distracted in the moments leading up to the crash, but the family says Tesla is at fault because of its marketing of Autopilot.

https://archive.is/eM0dj#selection-6027.0-6031.200

[RM7]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Tesla Trial to Size Up Cause of Fatal Autopilot Crash: Driver or Tech
April 8, 2024
Tesla is preparing for one of the biggest tests of its driver-assistant Autopilot: defending the company’s position that drivers, not the automaker, are ultimately responsible for crashes that involve the technology.
In a wrongful-death suit set for trial this week, a jury will determine who is at fault in the 2018 fatal crash involving 38-year-old Apple
engineer Walter Huang. The driver died on Highway 101 in California after his Model X sport-utility vehicle crashed into a highway barrier while he was using Tesla’s driver-assistance technology.



Tesla says Huang is responsible because he was playing a videogame while the vehicle was engaged in Autopilot. Government investigators and the Huangs agree that he was distracted in the moments leading up to the crash, but the family says Tesla is at fault because of its marketing of Autopilot.

https://archive.is/eM0dj#selection-6027.0-6031.200

Well, if you want to hold people responsible for ****ing around with their phones while they are driving and "enforce our existing laws", you hopefully support sticking it to the driver that was ****ing off while they were supposed to be driving/paying attention.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Tesla Trial to Size Up Cause of Fatal Autopilot Crash: Driver or Tech
April 8, 2024
Tesla is preparing for one of the biggest tests of its driver-assistant Autopilot: defending the company’s position that drivers, not the automaker, are ultimately responsible for crashes that involve the technology.
In a wrongful-death suit set for trial this week, a jury will determine who is at fault in the 2018 fatal crash involving 38-year-old Apple
engineer Walter Huang. The driver died on Highway 101 in California after his Model X sport-utility vehicle crashed into a highway barrier while he was using Tesla’s driver-assistance technology.



Tesla says Huang is responsible because he was playing a videogame while the vehicle was engaged in Autopilot. Government investigators and the Huangs agree that he was distracted in the moments leading up to the crash, but the family says Tesla is at fault because of its marketing of Autopilot.

https://archive.is/eM0dj#selection-6027.0-6031.200

So because of McNeils admission this may backfire badly against Tes's driver-assistance.

[Car-Addicted]

Tesla Settles Over Fatal Autopilot Crash on Eve of Trial
(Bloomberg) -- Tesla Inc. reached a settlement on the eve of its highest-profile trial yet over a crash involving Autopilot, the driver-assistance system Elon Musk has billed as crucial to his pursuit of self-driving cars.
Terms of the settlement weren’t disclosed in court filings made public Monday in state court in San Jose, California.
The trial would have featured testimony from several current and former Tesla engineers. The settlement comes as Musk has vowed to unveil Tesla’s robotaxi on Aug. 8, four months from now. As electric vehicles become more mainstream, Tesla’s push into artificial intelligence and autonomous driving has been key to its lofty valuation.
Beyond their claims against Tesla, the Huangs also alleged that California’s transportation department was partly to blame for failing to fix the barrier that had recently sustained damage from another crash. Had it been repaired, they said, it might have absorbed the impact of the Model X collision and saved Walter Huang’s life. The court’s docket indicates that the claims against the highway department are still pending.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...dc48b311&ei=32

Moral of this story is in America you can be very stupid, ignore the law and get very rich but you'er are still dead.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Tesla Settles Over Fatal Autopilot Crash on Eve of Trial
(Bloomberg) -- Tesla Inc. reached a settlement on the eve of its highest-profile trial yet over a crash involving Autopilot, the driver-assistance system Elon Musk has billed as crucial to his pursuit of self-driving cars.
Terms of the settlement weren’t disclosed in court filings made public Monday in state court in San Jose, California.
The trial would have featured testimony from several current and former Tesla engineers. The settlement comes as Musk has vowed to unveil Tesla’s robotaxi on Aug. 8, four months from now. As electric vehicles become more mainstream, Tesla’s push into artificial intelligence and autonomous driving has been key to its lofty valuation.
Beyond their claims against Tesla, the Huangs also alleged that California’s transportation department was partly to blame for failing to fix the barrier that had recently sustained damage from another crash. Had it been repaired, they said, it might have absorbed the impact of the Model X collision and saved Walter Huang’s life. The court’s docket indicates that the claims against the highway department are still pending.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...dc48b311&ei=32

Moral of this story is in America you can be very stupid, ignore the law and get very rich but you'er are still dead.

I'm guessing two payouts pending for the H's.

[Weather Man]

She isn't the only dealer refusing to take them on trade.

[KRS_SN]

The Swiss women, called KlimaSeniorinnen or Senior Women for Climate Protection, argued that they cannot leave their homes and suffer health attacks during heatwaves in Switzerland.


FFS! ... it's Switzerland not sub saharan Africa


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-e...t-68768598.amp

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

She isn't the only dealer refusing to take them on trade.

If you are a middle income family with a baby and the Li battery goes boom with no warranty then you are srrewed, she says.
If you like rock or any music loud in your EV, with a/c on of course, then the range decreases even more..with using WOT, the colder it gets has you worrying and should you break down for no reason then a new nightmare begins as EV can't be moved by normal breakdown procedure and is electric shock risk except for specialised EV handler who has to switch the battery off before somehow loading the over-heavy POS onto a low loader. * oh to add the incapacitated EV can't be towed.
The list continues more and more as people who didn't realize, as she says, are handing them back for gas cars and the forecourts are getting fuller by the minute of unwanted EV's.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

If you are a middle income family with a baby and the Li battery goes boom with no warranty then you are srrewed, she says.
If you like rock or any music loud in your EV, with a/c on of course, then the range decreases even more..with using WOT, the colder it gets has you worrying and should you break down for no reason then a new nightmare begins as EV can't be moved by normal breakdown procedure and is electric shock risk except for specialised EV handler who has to switch the battery off before somehow loading the over-heavy POS onto a low loader.
The list continues more and more as people who didn't realize, as she says, are handing them back for gas cars and the forecourts are getting fuller by the minute of unwanted EV's.

If someone is living with this level of fear then transportation is probably the least of their problems.

[Weather Man]

People starting to point out the Insanity in Green Insanity, but will it make any difference? The Green Insanity isn't just spackling intermittent wind and solar on top of the grid, they are dismantling the grid it is being spackled onto!

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

The Green Insanity isn't just spackling intermittent wind and solar on top of the grid, they are dismantling the grid it is being spackled onto!

Environmentalists Suing to Shut Down Power Plant Providing 9% of California’s Power
You would think that, given the cost of living and the exodus already underway from the Golden State, nobody would be trying to make California more expensive than it already is.
According to a Wednesday report from The Associated Press, an environmentalist group called Friends of the Earth is suing the U.S. Department of Energy over its decision to award funds to keep California's last remaining nuclear power plant, Diablo Canyon, open.
The DOE awarded $1 billion to keep the plant open past its planned 2025 closure date after Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom said shuttering Diablo Canyon, which provides 9 percent of the state's power, would leave California vulnerable to blackouts, according to regional conservative outlet The Center Square.

California the "Crash Test Dummy" of stupid ideas is always on the cutting edge of dumb.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Environmentalists Suing to Shut Down Power Plant Providing 9% of California’s Power
You would think that, given the cost of living and the exodus already underway from the Golden State, nobody would be trying to make California more expensive than it already is.
According to a Wednesday report from The Associated Press, an environmentalist group called Friends of the Earth is suing the U.S. Department of Energy over its decision to award funds to keep California's last remaining nuclear power plant, Diablo Canyon, open.
The DOE awarded $1 billion to keep the plant open past its planned 2025 closure date after Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom said shuttering Diablo Canyon, which provides 9 percent of the state's power, would leave California vulnerable to blackouts, according to regional conservative outlet The Center Square.

California the "Crash Test Dummy" of stupid ideas is always on the cutting edge of dumb.

I don't live in California. And at some level this is funny as hell.

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Environmentalists Suing to Shut Down Power Plant Providing 9% of California’s Power
You would think that, given the cost of living and the exodus already underway from the Golden State, nobody would be trying to make California more expensive than it already is.
According to a Wednesday report from The Associated Press, an environmentalist group called Friends of the Earth is suing the U.S. Department of Energy over its decision to award funds to keep California's last remaining nuclear power plant, Diablo Canyon, open.
The DOE awarded $1 billion to keep the plant open past its planned 2025 closure date after Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom said shuttering Diablo Canyon, which provides 9 percent of the state's power, would leave California vulnerable to blackouts, according to regional conservative outlet The Center Square.

California the "Crash Test Dummy" of stupid ideas is always on the cutting edge of dumb.

Create a state/country with no cars no buses only cycles and no electricity or gas and no meat etc send all these folk there. Instead of turning us into them why don't we let them be themselves in their own wonderland..they shouldn't last very long.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by RM7

Well, if you want to hold people responsible for ****ing around with their phones while they are driving and "enforce our existing laws", you hopefully support sticking it to the driver that was ****ing off while they were supposed to be driving/paying attention.

Last night I loaded the dishwasher and put the pod in the soap holder, but got distracted and didn't hit the start button. Woke up in the middle of the night. Remembered I didn't start the machine. On they way past the kitchen I hit the start button. Went back to bed...

Once a function or activity is automated, human nature pretty much dictates that the function or activity will not be supervised. Same goes for driving. Partially automate it and attention levels drop to near zero. Isn't it easier to drive a car than watch it drive? It is for me.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Environmentalists Suing to Shut Down Power Plant Providing 9% of California’s Power
You would think that, given the cost of living and the exodus already underway from the Golden State, nobody would be trying to make California more expensive than it already is.
According to a Wednesday report from The Associated Press, an environmentalist group called Friends of the Earth is suing the U.S. Department of Energy over its decision to award funds to keep California's last remaining nuclear power plant, Diablo Canyon, open.
The DOE awarded $1 billion to keep the plant open past its planned 2025 closure date after Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom said shuttering Diablo Canyon, which provides 9 percent of the state's power, would leave California vulnerable to blackouts, according to regional conservative outlet The Center Square.

California the "Crash Test Dummy" of stupid ideas is always on the cutting edge of dumb.

Let's be clear though, the state of California is not the one trying to close the nuclear plant, it's Friends of the Earth which is headquartered in DC. This lawsuit isn't going anywhere and neither is the plant so this story is meaningless to this EV thread.

[Car-Addicted]

The article is very clear but since you ask
New proposal challenges Gavin Newsom’s $1.4 billion plan to keep Diablo Canyon open
There’s a new proposal to keep Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant on the path to close down its reactors in 2024 and 2025. It comes in opposition to draft legislation floated by Gov. Gavin Newsom’s office to keep the plant in San Luis Obispo County running another decade. The latest proposal, which is unsigned and titled the “clean, diverse, safe and reliable energy proposal,” was authored by members of the California State Assembly and released on Aug. 19.
https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/l...264782049.html

[gblansten]

California is going to FAFO into learning about load shedding.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

The article is very clear but since you ask
New proposal challenges Gavin Newsom’s $1.4 billion plan to keep Diablo Canyon open
There’s a new proposal to keep Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant on the path to close down its reactors in 2024 and 2025. It comes in opposition to draft legislation floated by Gov. Gavin Newsom’s office to keep the plant in San Luis Obispo County running another decade. The latest proposal, which is unsigned and titled the “clean, diverse, safe and reliable energy proposal,” was authored by members of the California State Assembly and released on Aug. 19.
https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/l...264782049.html

This article and PRIOR proposal is not relevant either. It's from August 2022. Do better.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

This article and PRIOR proposal is not relevant either. It's from August 2022. Do better.

Good catch. Voted to stay open through 2030. Vote held December 2023.

https://apnews.com/article/diablo-ca...e8e5c330a11cd9

I do worry about California not building out needed electrical power generation though.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Good catch. Voted to stay open through 2030. Vote held December 2023.

https://apnews.com/article/diablo-ca...e8e5c330a11cd9

I do worry about California not building out needed electrical power generation though.

Rules and regs in Cali is crazy. There is WAY TOO MUCH idealism in their government. I generally refuse to work on environmental projects in Cali because their environmental rules and regulations are so extensive and different than any other state in the US. Their Green goals are not obtainable and are pipe dreams. That is starting to become abundantly clear now and many are now seeing that it's not feasible and is hurting their economy. Expect much of it to get delayed (effectively ceased though they won't say that directly).

Oddly, the Cali regulators I've worked with are some of the brightest, knowledgeable, down to earth, and well-trained professionals I've ever come across though. But they aren't the ones making the laws.

Air and water are their biggest concerns and rightly so. SoCal is still under a blanket of smog, though far less dangerous than even 10 years ago and especially compared to 30+ years ago. You can still see the smog layer clearly when flying into LA even now. Pretty crazy, IMO. Smog is a huge health issue for SoCal, but not so much elsewhere in the state, thus a one size fits all approach is rather silly, IMO.

Water availability/scarcity is a huge issue as well thus the reason why they are have so rules surrounding it. Water availability, not air, is and will be the state's biggest environmental issue over the next 50 years. The rules surrounding water usage and rights are bonkers in CA. The agriculture industry and population in SoCal are largely the problem. The growth of both is not sustainable and is a major problem and critical.