The official "Ask a cop/deputy anything!" thread

[paquet]

No idea of how salaried works in the US, chief.

Assuming you can't be incorporated / have a corp shelter of some sort?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by packet

No idea of how salaried works in the US, chief.

Assuming you can't be incorporated / have a corp shelter of some sort?

I don't know enough about that stuff to even know where to begin.

[Watching The World Burn]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I don't know enough about that stuff to even know where to begin.

Not American but don't think you could do that and still collect a pension since a corp is a separate legal entity. But as packet says - that's what my wife and I do - we each have our own corps and if Justin Trudeau makes it beneficial to be poor one year then that's what we are that year by declaring a low salary from our corps.

[paquet]

Trudeau ... *spit*

Some places don't let you be shielded behind a corporation - so though you have more options for corps in the US like an S corp, I don't know if you'd be able to.

Guessing you already doing the basic 401k (+ matching if offered)...

If I were you, Sedan_Clan, I'd hit up a good, recommended accountant / tax advisor to plan Cali specific stuff for now

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by packet

Trudeau ... *spit*

Some places don't let you be shielded behind a corporation - so though you have more options for corps in the US like an S corp, I don't know if you'd be able to.

Guessing you already doing the basic 401k (+ matching if offered)...

If I were you, Sedan_Clan, I'd hit up a good, recommended accountant / tax advisor to plan Cali specific stuff for now

We have pensions and deferred compensation programs to supplement. About 14% per paycheck goes into the pension plan and I put another +/- 10% into my deferred compensation.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I'm just venting, but….

…it is annoying how I can gross $12k in a two week pay period and the government takes half. Taxation is a racket. Sometimes I think it pays more to make less money. I'm already diverting the maximum into my deferred compensation and even with that considered I get no break during tax season. How are you guys/gals navigating the tax space?

I learned many moons ago that it doesn't matter how much one makes, it matters how much one keeps! I would try and bug-out after about 5 hours on a holiday as anything over that was essentially working for free; the taxes took that much! I just heard that of the person who wins this $1B+ mega lotto jackpot will net ~$335M after taxes. Why does the gummint feel they are entitled to about 2/3rds of the winnings?

A famous talk show host once said that if we Americans had to write a quarterly check instead of having taxes deducted, taxes wouldn't be near as high as they are!

And... STAY SAFE OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!

[paquet]

Understood - that's all salaried stuff as taxable benefit / non-taxable benefit (as much as i know)

The accountant / tax planner is the way to go, amigo

[Dino GT]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I'm just venting, but….

…it is annoying how I can gross $12k in a two week pay period and the government takes half. Taxation is a racket. Sometimes I think it pays more to make less money. I'm already diverting the maximum into my deferred compensation and even with that considered I get no break during tax season. How are you guys/gals navigating the tax space?

Move to Canada Ontario and those 12k turn into 4k

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by packet

i have a few illegal thoughts (about out-running patrol cars, not cuffs, that's legal)
but, you can't outrun a radio...

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

The bird is difficult to outrun as well, but it surprises me when it occasionally happens. I am impressed with criminal moxie at times.

Need I say more...

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

I learned many moons ago that it doesn't matter how much one makes, it matters how much one keeps! I would try and bug-out after about 5 hours on a holiday as anything over that was essentially working for free; the taxes took that much! I just heard that of the person who wins this $1B+ mega lotto jackpot will net ~$335M after taxes. Why does the gummint feel they are entitled to about 2/3rds of the winnings?

A famous talk show host once said that if we Americans had to write a quarterly check instead of having taxes deducted, taxes wouldn't be near as high as they are!

And... STAY SAFE OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!

Now THAT is crazy! I would've expected the greedy government to withhold 1/3rd……….but 2/3rd?!? Jesus H.!!!!

I do agree that there's a break point where it doesn't pay to work any additional hours. It seems like five O.T. spots per paycheck is the balance point.

I'm trying to hide today. lol! I'm tired as hell today.

Originally Posted by packet

Understood - that's all salaried stuff as taxable benefit / non-taxable benefit (as much as i know)

The accountant / tax planner is the way to go, amigo

I definitely need to find a really good accountant.

Originally Posted by Dino GT

Move to Canada Ontario and those 12k turn into 4k

Damn! I would faint.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Now THAT is crazy! I would've expected the greedy government to withhold 1/3rd……….but 2/3rd?!? Jesus H.!!!!

I do agree that there's a break point where it doesn't pay to work any additional hours. It seems like five O.T. spots per paycheck is the balance point.

I'm trying to hide today. lol! I'm tired as hell today.



I definitely need to find a really good accountant.






Damn! I would faint.

I love the fuckin' government and the government loves fuckin' me.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

I love the fuckin' government and the government loves fuckin' me.

Only, they don't use any lube.

[paquet]

Sedan_Clan try these guys https://www.facebook.com/pg/Carpe-Gr...8067/services/

Friends in the US swear by them

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by packet

Sedan_Clan try these guys https://www.facebook.com/pg/Carpe-Gr...8067/services/

Friends in the US swear by them

Their bio alone is a selling point. I'm all about that gray area.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

…it is annoying how I can gross $12k in a two week pay period and the government takes half.

Are you hiring? I don't gross a third of that amount every two weeks, and there's certainly no shiny new Porsche in my driveway.....

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I'm just venting, but….

…it is annoying how I can gross $12k in a two week pay period and the government takes half. Taxation is a racket. Sometimes I think it pays more to make less money. I'm already diverting the maximum into my deferred compensation and even with that considered I get no break during tax season. How are you guys/gals navigating the tax space?

Cops earn $300k+? I thought it was a fraction of that, nuts.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

Are you hiring? I don't gross a third of that amount every two weeks, and there's certainly no shiny new Porsche in my driveway.....

We are always hiring, but even the money isn't enough to attract new officers/deputies. It also depends on the state you live in. I think California cops earn more than our brethren in every other state, but many other states offer a lower cost of living and taxation is less intrusive. I think New York police officers should be paid more. They are paid horribly considering the cost of living in New York State. The last I checked, their base pay was sub-$50k annually. Crazy!!!

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Cops earn $300k+? I thought it was a fraction of that, nuts.

Well there is overtime tied into it, but my base is well into the six figures. Add the overtime (…which is damn near perpetual at this point considering staffing shortages) and you can tap into the $200k+ range really easily….


….and that's before there are any chevrons on your sleeve or bars on your collar. There is less overtime for supervisory staff, however. I gross anywhere between $16k-24k a month depending on how much overtime I work. I'm already at $106k so far and we're only at the halfway point in the year. That said, I know many of you make significantly more than I do.

[///d]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

We are always hiring, but even the money isn't enough to attract new officers/deputies. It also depends on the state you live in. I think California cops earn more than our brethren in every other state, but many other states offer a lower cost of living and taxation is less intrusive. I think New York police officers should be paid more. They are paid horribly considering the cost of living in New York State. The last I checked, their base pay was sub-$50k annually. Crazy!!!




Well there is overtime tied into it, but my base is well into the six figures. Add the overtime (…which is damn near perpetual at this point considering staffing shortages) and you can tap into the $200k+ range really easily….


….and that's before there are any chevrons on your sleeve or bars on your collar. There is less overtime for supervisory staff, however. I gross anywhere between $16k-24k a month depending on how much overtime I work. I'm already at $106k so far and we're only at the halfway point in the year. That said, I know many of you make significantly more than I do.

Yeah but you gotta move to Cali or big cities for that

Recent articles report Minneapolis starting at 73k annual. I dont know if you could pay me enough to work that shit show though.

[jamesinaz]

Even assuming I was still young enough to be a cop, there is no way I could take the abuse given them in today's world. IMO many people need a good beating after their actions as a reminder that it was a bad thing they did.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

We are always hiring, but even the money isn't enough to attract new officers/deputies. It also depends on the state you live in.

There was a news article today in our regional news about an upstate county shipping their remaining ICE detainees out to another prison/jail. The county had a lucrative contract with the feds to house detainees in their excess jail capacity, but are so short-staffed that they cannot operate the jail at full capacity any more. The last civil service exam provided 8 new deputies, and they are still 29 people short to fill all of their open positions.....

[///d]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

…it is annoying how I can gross $12k in a two week pay period and the government takes half.

How are you guys/gals navigating the tax space?

MN is just as bad. I'm navigating this by trying to move out of MN. Unfortunately the places I want to move (mountains) are the same places everyone from the west coast who is sick of high taxes and the related is moving to in an attempt to escape those things, but then still vote for the same crap.

Originally Posted by jamesinaz

Even assuming I was still young enough to be a cop, there is no way I could take the abuse given them in today's world. IMO many people need a good beating after their actions as a reminder that it was a bad thing they did.

A good friend of mine is an officer in Mesa. He keeps trying to get me to move down and go to the academy and be an officer with him. I've heard his stories, no thanks.

[jamesinaz]

Originally Posted by ///d

A good friend of mine is an officer in Mesa. He keeps trying to get me to move down and go to the academy and be an officer with him. I've heard his stories, no thanks.

I live north of Mesa. About 25 miles. A world of difference and still Meas isn't that bad IMO. Not compared to some of the blue cities.