GR Corolla engine failure

DB_Cooper · 03-30-2023, 01:43 PM

Possible money shift situation resulting in catastrophic engine failure.

Toyota has decided to pay for damages under warranty.

Article + YouTube vids below.

https://www.carscoops.com/2023/03/20...ts-32000-bill/

https://youtu.be/5q5ZzyiFws8

https://youtu.be/2guA9Pd21BM

https://youtu.be/iKSwFOYQH5w

dgoldenz · 03-30-2023, 02:22 PM

How can the parts cost $32k if the entire car's MSRP is $36k?

///MPhatic · 03-30-2023, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dgoldenz

How can the parts cost $32k if the entire car's MSRP is $36k?

You already know how. It's much more expensive to have the dealer do anything because you're paying dealer prices and labor.

TheMidnightNarwhal · 03-30-2023, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

You already know how. It's much more expensive to have the dealer do anything because you're paying dealer prices and labor.

I looooove stealerships

dgoldenz · 03-30-2023, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

You already know how. It's much more expensive to have the dealer do anything because you're paying dealer prices and labor.

It says the parts alone are $32k in the article

Mingwan · 03-31-2023, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dgoldenz

How can the parts cost $32k if the entire car's MSRP is $36k?

That’s because that’s the market adjusted value.

G30M · 03-31-2023, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DB_Cooper

Possible money shift situation resulting in catastrophic engine failure.

perfect analysis!

D_SheerDrivingPleasure · 03-31-2023, 02:57 PM

How I do get my money shift covered under warranty?

GuidoK · 03-31-2023, 03:49 PM

How can this engine be more expensive than a F90 M5 engine?

DB_Cooper · 04-01-2023, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by D_SheerDrivingPleasure

How I do get my money shift covered under warranty?

Buy a Toyota lol.

heavyD^2 · 04-03-2023, 01:50 PM

That engine isn't exactly anything special. It's open deck aluminum block without forged internals. I expect the cost may have something to do with the fact they are hand built on a dedicated GR factory assembly line and not mass produced.

dgoldenz · 04-03-2023, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by heavyD^2

That engine isn't exactly anything special. It's open deck aluminum block without forged internals. I expect the cost may have something to do with the fact they are hand built on a dedicated GR factory assembly line and not mass produced.

That's more than the cost of a new engine for an E92 M3

kyriian · 04-06-2023, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dgoldenz

That's more than the cost of a new engine for an E92 M3

Unfair comparison, S65 is sold at a much higher volume (ie. scale) than the G16E, and S65 is not hand built,

Labour cost >>> parts cost

lens · 04-06-2023, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by heavyD^2

That engine isn't exactly anything special. It's open deck aluminum block without forged internals. I expect the cost may have something to do with the fact they are hand built on a dedicated GR factory assembly line and not mass produced.

Looks special to me

86Zed · 04-06-2023, 09:34 AM

One of the most powerful 3-cylinder engines in production, 185.4 horsepower per liter... sure it sounds run of the mill.

Toyota is committed to these GR cars and an enduring legacy. Good on them for creating, selling, and now supporting them (even when it is almost assuredly the owner's mistake)!

FastTyger · 04-06-2023, 03:10 PM

Wish Subaru would have stepped up like this when my STi broke a ringland and needed a short block. Good for Toyota.

heavyD^2 · 04-07-2023, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 86Zed

One of the most powerful 3-cylinder engines in production, 185.4 horsepower per liter... sure it sounds run of the mill.

Toyota is committed to these GR cars and an enduring legacy. Good on them for creating, selling, and now supporting them (even when it is almost assuredly the owner's mistake)!

The engine configuration is certainly not run of the mill but the design and materials of construction certainly are. I'm sure the engine is perfectly reliable at stock power levels but this is in that Subaru EJ territory of a high strung economy engine where you roll the dice once you start upping the power levels. To be fair it seems it's a little more robust than a Subaru engine as per below.

https://www.hagerty.com/media/mainte...until-it-cant/

mecheng77 · 04-07-2023, 06:15 PM

Good on Toyota, they are rich as heck why shouldn’t they stand by their product

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