New Ytest
Sign out
Bimmerpost
Login
BMW E39 5-Series Forum | 5Post.com
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts  
Go Back   BMW E39 5-Series Forum | 5Post.com > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Sim Racing

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-09-2023, 11:57 PM   #1
G30M
Major General
G30M's Avatar
5220
Rep
5,083
Posts

 
Drives: M550i; retired - M340i
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Australasia

iTrader: (0)

PS5 GT7 is now in VR - anyone tried it?

i've not touched any driving sim since October 22 but this is tempting ...

anyone tried it?

any risk of it selling out like the console if i don't buy it?
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2023, 09:45 AM   #2
DeezBluBallz
Second Lieutenant
DeezBluBallz's Avatar
United_States
183
Rep
299
Posts

 
Drives: Audi RS5, BMW M3
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Omaha, NE

iTrader: (0)

I'm waiting on some reviews, and footage as well.
Appreciate 0
      03-11-2023, 09:08 PM   #3
clutchdj
Colonel
2106
Rep
2,502
Posts

 
Drives: a few cars
Join Date: May 2015
Location: NY

iTrader: (6)

just got my vr2. shipped fast. the reviews look really fucking immersive. can't want for some time with no distractions gonna fire the bitch up. hope it syncs well with my fanatec
Appreciate 0
      03-12-2023, 12:38 AM   #4
user12464
Private
86
Rep
52
Posts

 
Drives: G05 X5, G80 M3C Xdrive
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Northwest

iTrader: (0)

It's really good. The interior car detail is amazing. I'm a bit slower though with online races, I think mainly because it's so realistic that it make me more cautious.
Appreciate 1
GTS Daddy394.50
      03-12-2023, 03:58 AM   #5
RonronEG
Lieutenant
342
Rep
472
Posts

 
Drives: BMW 540i
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Northern California

iTrader: (0)

I've been playing it and while it's good I don't think it's great. Reprojection is used to being the gameplay to 120hz and it causes ghosting. Image is soft and grainy even after dialing in to that ridiculously small "sweet spot". The feel of immersion is good but FOV is still too narrow- tracks with elevation changes are great though and can make my stomach flip.

One strange thing is they don't let you adjust your driving position in the car. Give us some 'seat controls' so we sit in the car as we would in real life. You can trick the camera position by changing your positioning before a race but it shouldn't come down to that.

Just don't go into it thinking it's going to look like the reviews you may have seen online which 90% were captured on a screen and not through the actual lenses.

Last edited by RonronEG; 03-12-2023 at 04:29 AM..
Appreciate 3
wtwo319095.50
clutchdj2106.00
Mtxzptlk898.50
      03-12-2023, 02:13 PM   #6
G30M
Major General
G30M's Avatar
5220
Rep
5,083
Posts

 
Drives: M550i; retired - M340i
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Australasia

iTrader: (0)

try this

- for anyone wondering how to adjust the in game wheel to be higher or lower, or away from you (the driver), or closer to you, simply lower your head (while you have the psvr2 headset on) and keep pressed the option button if you want the wheel to be higher, raise the head+hold the option button if you want the wheel to be lower. Lean/move your body toward the wheel and keep pressed the option button if you want the in game wheel to be further from you, move away from the wheel+hold on the option button if you want the ingame wheel to be closer to you. So, play around a few times until you get the desired position.
Appreciate 0
      03-12-2023, 02:14 PM   #7
G30M
Major General
G30M's Avatar
5220
Rep
5,083
Posts

 
Drives: M550i; retired - M340i
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Australasia

iTrader: (0)

maybe this
Appreciate 0
      03-13-2023, 07:46 AM   #8
wtwo3
Major General
wtwo3's Avatar
19096
Rep
5,676
Posts

 
Drives: 23 X7 40i; 23 M3; 24 cooper s
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: IL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by RonronEG View Post
I've been playing it and while it's good I don't think it's great. Reprojection is used to being the gameplay to 120hz and it causes ghosting. Image is soft and grainy even after dialing in to that ridiculously small "sweet spot". The feel of immersion is good but FOV is still too narrow- tracks with elevation changes are great though and can make my stomach flip.

One strange thing is they don't let you adjust your driving position in the car. Give us some 'seat controls' so we sit in the car as we would in real life. You can trick the camera position by changing your positioning before a race but it shouldn't come down to that.

Just don't go into it thinking it's going to look like the reviews you may have seen online which 90% were captured on a screen and not through the actual lenses.
Agree with this. Actual game play while wearing the headset doesn't look nearly as good as what you see on the screen. It's still really good, but if you've been playing GT7 on a nice TV for the past year, the quality is noticeably reduced within the headset. That being said, it's really cool to look around, and it definitely adds an element of depth that isn't there in a 2D image on screen.

Currently I'm just building up my tolerance for it to race longer without getting too nauseous.
__________________
2023 BMW X7 xDrive40i
2023 BMW M3 6MT
2024 Mini Cooper S Convertible

'20 BMW m340i... '20 BMW X5 40i... '16 Infiniti Q50 RS 400... '10 Lexus RX 350... '08 Lexus IS 350... '00 Nissan Maxima... '93 Nissan Maxima
Appreciate 0
      03-15-2023, 02:32 PM   #9
BRG_N54
First Lieutenant
BRG_N54's Avatar
United_States
395
Rep
341
Posts

 
Drives: Green '07 & Arctic '08 335i's
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Monterey Peninsula

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 BMW 335i  [0.00]
2007 BMW 335i  [0.00]
Thumbs up Simply Amazing!

I just saw this thread and feel compelled to chime in. I had the VR2 since launch day, but only had a chance to try GT7 this weekend. I am blown away. Thinking back to the days of running Papyrus IndyCar simulator on my 386sx PC, this is mind altering.

I had selected the Ferrari Vision last time I played, so it popped me in the cockpit of this grounded spaceship. I was instantly hooked. The amazing depth of field, the ability to look through corners, your hands naturally follow where you are looking while driving. It had elevated the experience so much for me I went back and "golded" all the license challenges.

Then I needed a new environment, so I got a used PlaySeat Challenge last night and bolted up the old G29. Another major step. Before I knew it it was 11P and time for some sleep. I was just about to shut down, when I wandered over to the manufacturer pavilion and looked at the BMW section. "oh cool! they have an M3 e92!" I did the "VR showroom" and changed to seated in the car. just WOW! I have an E90 335, and it was like I was sitting in my car! Even the Nav screen and controls are there. I am just floored by this new world I can enter and leave at will, thank you Sony! Worth every penny, IMHO.
Appreciate 0
      03-15-2023, 04:27 PM   #10
G30M
Major General
G30M's Avatar
5220
Rep
5,083
Posts

 
Drives: M550i; retired - M340i
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Australasia

iTrader: (0)

does the BMW VGT gain a cockpit? what do you see when VR-ing the BMW VGT?
Appreciate 0
      03-15-2023, 11:57 PM   #11
clutchdj
Colonel
2106
Rep
2,502
Posts

 
Drives: a few cars
Join Date: May 2015
Location: NY

iTrader: (6)

Quote:
Originally Posted by wtwo3 View Post
Agree with this. Actual game play while wearing the headset doesn't look nearly as good as what you see on the screen. It's still really good, but if you've been playing GT7 on a nice TV for the past year, the quality is noticeably reduced within the headset. That being said, it's really cool to look around, and it definitely adds an element of depth that isn't there in a 2D image on screen.

Currently I'm just building up my tolerance for it to race longer without getting too nauseous.
also agree. I am faster on the ring with the headset but the elevation change is so realistic that the mind thinks the body is moving with it, and it creates some nausea. interesting problem to have. disappointed with the blur. just goes from really blurry to not as blurry. went through most of the YT tips and tricks. I guess the trade off is actually being able to see around the corners and see the track for what it is. overall it's very amazing but needs improvement. WGI is very realistic especially the curb heights.
Appreciate 0
      03-18-2023, 02:12 PM   #12
G30M
Major General
G30M's Avatar
5220
Rep
5,083
Posts

 
Drives: M550i; retired - M340i
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Australasia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by clutchdj View Post
also agree. I am faster on the ring with the headset but the elevation change is so realistic that the mind thinks the body is moving with it, and it creates some nausea. interesting problem to have. disappointed with the blur. just goes from really blurry to not as blurry. went through most of the YT tips and tricks. I guess the trade off is actually being able to see around the corners and see the track for what it is. overall it's very amazing but needs improvement. WGI is very realistic especially the curb heights.
is the blur all the time or only when looking to the side?
Appreciate 0
      03-19-2023, 11:14 PM   #13
clutchdj
Colonel
2106
Rep
2,502
Posts

 
Drives: a few cars
Join Date: May 2015
Location: NY

iTrader: (6)

Quote:
Originally Posted by g21 View Post
is the blur all the time or only when looking to the side?
the blur is reduced when looking slightly forward & up but its at an unnatural head angle. there is still blur everywhere else. I have used the tips in the video link posted in this thread and it's probably one of the better sources of info. I personally cannot see the benefits of this headset vrs using a 2D monitor (for GT7).

I can deal with the burr but not the motion sickness lol. The still in-car VR themes are REALLY good. As for the driving experience maybe a heavy firmware update will fix the issue for me. if you don't get motion sickness from it then id say its worth it even with the blur when racing because you can better manage going from apex to apex especially since your peripheral vision is maximized. when going through the drop zone in Breidscheid all the way up thru Ex-Mühle on the Ring it feels like a rollercoaster and that can never be duplicated in 2D.
Appreciate 0
      03-31-2023, 04:15 PM   #14
G30M
Major General
G30M's Avatar
5220
Rep
5,083
Posts

 
Drives: M550i; retired - M340i
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Australasia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by clutchdj View Post
the blur is reduced when looking slightly forward & up but its at an unnatural head angle. there is still blur everywhere else. I have used the tips in the video link posted in this thread and it's probably one of the better sources of info. I personally cannot see the benefits of this headset vrs using a 2D monitor (for GT7).

I can deal with the burr but not the motion sickness lol. The still in-car VR themes are REALLY good. As for the driving experience maybe a heavy firmware update will fix the issue for me. if you don't get motion sickness from it then id say its worth it even with the blur when racing because you can better manage going from apex to apex especially since your peripheral vision is maximized. when going through the drop zone in Breidscheid all the way up thru Ex-Mühle on the Ring it feels like a rollercoaster and that can never be duplicated in 2D.
sounds good enough

dumb question - can you have both the VR and TV producing graphics? would be great so others can watch what's going on
Appreciate 0
      03-31-2023, 04:31 PM   #15
RonronEG
Lieutenant
342
Rep
472
Posts

 
Drives: BMW 540i
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Northern California

iTrader: (0)

The display on the VR is duplicated on the TV screen. The only time it isn't is if you are using the VRs 2D virtual screen.
Appreciate 0
      04-01-2023, 03:26 PM   #16
bloung5
Enlisted Member
45
Rep
40
Posts

 
Drives: 01 LSB e46 M3
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: CA

iTrader: (0)

I just picked up the VR2 headset and was on the fence for a few weeks.




Totally worth it. I have it paired with the fanatec DD 8nm kit and standard CSL pedals, all mounted to the playseat trophy. This is a great setup and the feeling you get driving is totally immersive. Braking zones are more easily judged, you can avoid bumping into cars, it's completely worth it over controller. Get it, you won't have regrets after the fact.
Appreciate 0
      04-01-2023, 03:28 PM   #17
bloung5
Enlisted Member
45
Rep
40
Posts

 
Drives: 01 LSB e46 M3
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RonronEG View Post
I've been playing it and while it's good I don't think it's great. Reprojection is used to being the gameplay to 120hz and it causes ghosting. Image is soft and grainy even after dialing in to that ridiculously small "sweet spot". The feel of immersion is good but FOV is still too narrow- tracks with elevation changes are great though and can make my stomach flip.

One strange thing is they don't let you adjust your driving position in the car. Give us some 'seat controls' so we sit in the car as we would in real life. You can trick the camera position by changing your positioning before a race but it shouldn't come down to that.

Just don't go into it thinking it's going to look like the reviews you may have seen online which 90% were captured on a screen and not through the actual lenses.

I cannot stress this part enough. I too was amazed no reviews really mentioned the true image quality. It is nowehere near as sharp as it is on your TV, but this is still really cool to drive with nonetheless. I find myself judging depending on teh racing what mode I want to use, VR or TV. It's super fun though.
Appreciate 1
clutchdj2106.00
      04-13-2023, 11:25 PM   #18
Ximian
.
Ximian's Avatar
United_States
2093
Rep
2,021
Posts

 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: MN

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2011 BMW M3  [0.00]
2021 BMW M3  [0.00]
The immersiveness is amazing. The lighting in the cockpit is beautiful, especially for early morning sunlight. The detail and depth to the cars right ahead of you is the best part of it.

Image quality and focus fall apart beyond two or three car lengths. End of long straights look like they're original PlayStation quality games. The lack of focus for text/writing on cockpit items such as buttons is an annoyance.

Is it worth nearly $600? I don't think so and it's not like there are plenty of other VR games to play. I'm debating whether to keep it still.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      04-21-2023, 04:35 PM   #19
bloung5
Enlisted Member
45
Rep
40
Posts

 
Drives: 01 LSB e46 M3
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: CA

iTrader: (0)

I think i'll hold onto mine. I mean there will be other games like F1 23 coming out to hopefully support VR. And future GT games, i play it mostly when i feel the need for full immersion. Other times i play on my tv.
Appreciate 0
      04-21-2023, 05:14 PM   #20
G30M
Major General
G30M's Avatar
5220
Rep
5,083
Posts

 
Drives: M550i; retired - M340i
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Australasia

iTrader: (0)

well the family are away and so i got to test out the rig.

what can i say, immersion is 100%. you are literally there in the car at the circuit.

did it make me faster on GT7? nope lol, barely get close to the time i set using the controller and the TV!

didn't get motion sickness but my nose bridge hurts as i shoved the set over my headphones ....
Appreciate 0
      05-19-2023, 06:59 PM   #21
G30M
Major General
G30M's Avatar
5220
Rep
5,083
Posts

 
Drives: M550i; retired - M340i
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Australasia

iTrader: (0)

is it faster? no.
is it clearer? no.
does it feel real? YES.
does it feel normal? motion sickness 13/10
Appreciate 0
      05-20-2023, 06:12 PM   #22
RonronEG
Lieutenant
342
Rep
472
Posts

 
Drives: BMW 540i
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Northern California

iTrader: (0)

After trying it out for nearly a month I decided it wasn't good enough to keep.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:23 AM.




5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST