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      02-02-2015, 12:45 PM   #1
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2015 Z06 vs 2015 GTR Nismo (Motortrend)*UPDATED*/ Carlos Lego Geek Out 03/14/2015)

NEW VIDEO updated, prior Z06 had issues. Video Below 3/14/2015
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http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...mo_comparison/

Hope this isn't a repost, but this is bad news for XXXXXXXX... I was expecting different results but the conclusion is valid argument. I wish they would of included the Porsche.

Makes me wonder about the upcoming CTS-V and ATS-V.

Hopefully Motor Trend does a Video.

Still a good read nonetheless.

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Updated Video with more detail- Raw Review added 2/22/15





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UPDATED 3/14/2015



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Not really surprised a $60,000 more expensive car was faster.
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Not really surprised a $60,000 more expensive car was faster.
As tested, it's only 45k more...but price isn't the deciding factor, that awd system and dual clutch tranny is.
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Interesting will be to see how much faster the new NSX will be compared to the GT-R Nismo, but also the 458 replacement.
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      02-02-2015, 02:40 PM   #5
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I don't know. Something just does not add up with the Z06. I expected more from the Vette. Maybe what Randy said, it did not feel that strong (650bhp). I doubt that the aero is the reason for that much speed difference. I need to drive the Z06!
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      02-02-2015, 03:22 PM   #6
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Interesting how the situation is reversed from this C7 Z51 vs. GT-R test. Here it was the GT-R that had to reduce power and got slow when it got too hot.

http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/cor...son-test1.html

"Blame the desert heat on this summer day all you want, but when push comes to shove, the GT-R gets hot, dials back power and can't keep up with the less powerful, less costly Corvette"
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As tested, it's only 45k more...but price isn't the deciding factor, that awd system and dual clutch tranny is.
The AWD was not the deciding factor around the track. The Z06 was faster around the corners, braked later in the turns....Its was the aero downforce for one, and maybe an ecu issue.
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      02-02-2015, 05:36 PM   #8
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124 trap speed for a 650 hp car with a 3500 lb weight is pathetic...

aerodynamic disadvantage? Get out of here please... The GTR is a moving refrigerator.
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As tested, it's only 45k more...but price isn't the deciding factor, that awd system and dual clutch tranny is.
Here we go with the AWD BS. Maybe you should read the article.....see which car has more grip and is able to maintain speed through the corners.....with how much more grip......

It would have been nice to see it against the new A8 trans instead of the M7 but those A8 cars are on hold right now. Still we see the car is having heat soak issues but how come? Actual owners are doing lap times and not seeing anything but maybe because they are breaking the cars in accordingly instead of it being a test mule?

Still would take the C7Z over Godzilla.
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Not really surprised a $60,000 more expensive car was faster.
as time goes on price has less to do with performance. you can buy a z06 and keep up or beat anything from a GT3 to a Lamborghini.

although i would take a GT3 or lambo over any vette any day.
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as time goes on price has less to do with performance. you can buy a z06 and keep up or beat anything from a GT3 to a Lamborghini.

although i would take a GT3 or lambo over any vette any day.
Your not the only one that would take a GT3.. But a Lambo can be a sexy car
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The GTR won with more weight, less power, and inferior brakes and tires. The Z06 is a great car, but Godzilla is simply the pinnacle of automotive engineering this side of a $1 million price tag.

And let's not forget that this is an 8 year old GTR platform! It came out way back in 2007. That makes it essentially the oldest platform among all modern supercars, yet it's still performing with the best! I recommend all other supercar manufacturers buy themselves an industrial sized container of Vaseline, because I predict there will be a lot of butthurt screaming and crying when Nissan introduces the R36 platform!
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Here we go with the AWD BS. Maybe you should read the article.....see which car has more grip and is able to maintain speed through the corners.....with how much more grip......

It would have been nice to see it against the new A8 trans instead of the M7 but those A8 cars are on hold right now. Still we see the car is having heat soak issues but how come? Actual owners are doing lap times and not seeing anything but maybe because they are breaking the cars in accordingly instead of it being a test mule?

Still would take the C7Z over Godzilla.
Most owners don't have 1/100th of the capability of a professional driver that tests the cars. That is why most don't experience heatsoak.
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I loved the last Z06/ZR1. New one seems to be a let down. Trap speed is shockingly low, stock tune pulling timing, and slower than a car with less aero, less power, more weight and way less rubber.
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I can't say I agree with you, and I own a GTR (and C7Z. And aformentioned 991 GT3).
Care to elaborate? What specifically do you disagree with?
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11.4 @ 124 for the Z06 !?!?!?!

HAHAHAHA, someone can't drive. There are already owners with stock cars running 10.x @ 13x

They lost me at the straight line specs. Bogus article. Not even worth the read.

GTR wins because its the easier car to drive fast like it's always been. We aren't going to see the Z06 capabilities until it is in the hands of a professional driver and doesn't have one of the magazines complaining about pulling timing or whatever.

Randy Pobst + properly broken in z06 + AT Until I see a day with those three criteria, i'm not believing any of these internet rumors or bogus comparisons.

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11.4 @ 124 for the Z06 !?!?!?!

HAHAHAHA, someone can't drive. There are already owners with stock cars running 10.x @ 13x

They lost me at the straight line specs. Bogus article. Not even worth the read.

GTR wins because its the easier car to drive fast like it's always been. We aren't going to see the Z06 capabilities until it is in the hands of a professional driver and doesn't have one of the magazines complaining about pulling timing or whatever.

Randy Pobst + properly broken in z06 + AT Until I see a day with those three criteria, i'm not believing any of these internet rumors or bogus comparisons.
Did you read the article? It was Randy Pobst that drove the cars and posted the lap times. And he was the one complaining about the Vette lacking the advertised power.
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Did you read the article? It was Randy Pobst that drove the cars and posted the lap times. And he was the one complaining about the Vette lacking the advertised power.
Sorry for misleading you with my incorrect logic statement.

Randy Pobst * properly broken in z06 * AT

I find it very interesting that actual owners are not having the same issues that these magazines are.
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Until I see a day with those three criteria, i'm not believing any of these internet rumors or bogus comparisons.
and yet here you are quoting the interweb rumors about stock z06s hitting 10s at 13x mph. logic and reason are not your friends.
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and yet here you are quoting the interweb rumors about stock z06s hitting 10s at 13x mph. logic and reason are not your friends.
C7 "fast list" on the corvette forums has stingrays running faster numbers than listed in this article. You really think that the z06 is not capable of improving on that?
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I can't say I agree with you, and I own a GTR (and C7Z. And aformentioned 991 GT3).
YOUR A DIRTY LITTLE car slut whore...

And I like it

I wish you where my neighbor

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Sorry for misleading you with my incorrect logic statement.

Randy Pobst * properly broken in z06 * AT

I find it very interesting that actual owners are not having the same issues that these magazines are.
Actually, there are a few. With Videos and stats. I wonder if its a minor build issue, only effecting certain cars. I think Motor Trend should get another car and do a retest and include a few other "Exotics" in.

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...ps-repost.html

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...shut-down.html

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