Start/Drive off at idle (without accel) on first and second gear?

eswaroop · 09-17-2011, 04:37 PM

Question for all E9x w/N54 owners that drive a 6MT - are you able to start and drive off ( have enough torque) on first and second gear without any input to gas (accelerator?)

Of course, just for comparing apples to apples, assume level road (no steep incline).

My car just sputters and dies on first (and second of course)

-ES

blacknbean · 09-17-2011, 06:45 PM

i can go foward and reverse slowly, but i rarely use it to go forward. only time i use it is backing out of parking spots.

VTECaddict · 09-17-2011, 07:04 PM

youre releasing the clutch too fast then.

jwalker87 · 09-17-2011, 07:26 PM

Erm, I've never tried starting from a stop in 2nd, especially with no gas. But yes, it goes just fine in 1st with no gas, you just have to have a good feel of the clutch.

GTOtoBMW · 09-18-2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jwalker87

Erm, I've never tried starting from a stop in 2nd, especially with no gas. But yes, it goes just fine in 1st with no gas, you just have to have a good feel of the clutch.

THIS!

I can do it in my '91 POS Mercedes 200E.

roundle · 09-18-2011, 02:10 AM

The car's set to idle at 700-900 RPM. If you're gentle enough with the clutch, the engine computer will apply the gas for you--it'll try to keep the idle at 700-900.

wannabe · 09-18-2011, 11:51 AM

I have the heavier e93 and I'm able to start in 1st without any gas. Just really slow letting off the clutch. Then I can creep in 1st without adding any gas.

I'm pretty sure 2nd will not work.

hf-325d · 09-18-2011, 03:02 PM

can release the clutch in 1st or 2nd gear (more slowly in 2nd) and it will easily lurk forward. its also possible then to just keep changing gears all the way til 6th gear, and it will be rolling at around 55kph without tuching the throttle once

eswaroop · 09-18-2011, 04:03 PM

Im pretty good with the clutch ( I think) and cant get it to do this - at least not anymore after the SIB 13 09 10 update.

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Originally Posted by hf-325d

can release the clutch in 1st or 2nd gear (more slowly in 2nd) and it will easily lurk forward. its also possible then to just keep changing gears all the way til 6th gear, and it will be rolling at around 55kph without tuching the throttle once

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blacknbean Major 14 Rep 1,044 Posts Drives: e92 335i 6MT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LA iTrader: (2)	i can go foward and reverse slowly, but i rarely use it to go forward. only time i use it is backing out of parking spots.
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jwalker87 Major 320 Rep 1,023 Posts Drives: '08 335i, '11 335xi, '01 Z3M Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA iTrader: (2)	Erm, I've never tried starting from a stop in 2nd, especially with no gas. But yes, it goes just fine in 1st with no gas, you just have to have a good feel of the clutch.
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roundle EXPAT 65 Rep 889 Posts Drives: 18 VW GTI;18 CX9;11 E91 N52 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	The car's set to idle at 700-900 RPM. If you're gentle enough with the clutch, the engine computer will apply the gas for you--it'll try to keep the idle at 700-900.
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wannabe Second Lieutenant 12 Rep 204 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 335i e93 6MT Join Date: May 2005 Location: Az iTrader: (0)	I have the heavier e93 and I'm able to start in 1st without any gas. Just really slow letting off the clutch. Then I can creep in 1st without adding any gas. I'm pretty sure 2nd will not work.
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hf-325d Enlisted Member 5 Rep 31 Posts Drives: 2007 325D coupe M sport ESS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Norway iTrader: (0)	can release the clutch in 1st or 2nd gear (more slowly in 2nd) and it will easily lurk forward. its also possible then to just keep changing gears all the way til 6th gear, and it will be rolling at around 55kph without tuching the throttle once __________________ * 2007 325D coupe M-sport,Tiag with coral red interior, 6speed manual, ESS tuned 285+crank hp, 660nm * 1992 Mazda MX5 400whp trackday monster.
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