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Subaru BRZ Concept STI - Amazing!!!
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I really hope you are seeing this... curb weight around 1200kg ONLY!!! Quote:
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11-17-2011, 08:46 AM | #5 |
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It looks like it's wearing a black sports mouthpiece and I guess the big dumb wing is necessary if it's going to be an STI. I like the rest. It's the Hyundai Genesis' good looking brother.
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11-17-2011, 08:57 AM | #6 |
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I like everything but that wing.
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11-17-2011, 11:50 AM | #7 |
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I read in one of my car mags that the wing, front and rear diffuser and side skirts would not make it to the production model.
With that curb weight, should be a blast to drive.
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11-17-2011, 12:31 PM | #8 |
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Mixed emotions. LOVE the back.
Hopefully it will have different wheels and not the STI parts bin special. (Not diggin' on the STI at all) just want different wheels that separate it from it's direct lineage. Still waiting on the perf specs.
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11-17-2011, 12:45 PM | #9 |
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Besides the low curb weight, they anounce a center of gravity even lower than the Porsche Cayman...
Subaru's center of gravity height = 460mm!!! Porsche Cayman = 482mm. Even the Cayman R (1,295 kg and 1,320 kg with PDK) which is 20mm lower than the standard Cayman can't fully match the 460mm mark (462mmm). You can see the values here (which are the same for its Toyota FT86 brother): |
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Yes! Advevo, whom I respect very much and of whom I'm a BIG fan, summarized it very well:
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11-17-2011, 04:23 PM | #11 |
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But the cayman is mid engine and this little guy is front.... no turboz? That means it won't be anywhere near the 300hp of existing STI line up
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Robert,
As Jason Barlow said in TopGear Issue 142, June 2011: Quote:
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Nevertheless, as Advevo has so well put it, the first specs you should always look for in a sports car is the weight. To which I add... how the weight is distributed and how high is its center of gravity. Then, you can care about the unsprung mass. That's where your main focus should be! Finally, if you think about its price tag this Subaru represents, as a true sports car, the best compromise I've come across in a long... long... long time! Man, I think I have to wait for Spring 2012... this simply seems to be too good to be missed! Last edited by GoingTooFast; 11-17-2011 at 06:28 PM.. |
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Looks, I like everything but that awful wing.
As for performance, no turbos, no bueno. I don't want to go below 300hp again. Just have to wait and see the official numbers when they come out. |
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Nice. I'm glad that some companies still remember how to make a proper sports car. Rear-wheel drive, no turbos, and religiously reduce weight. We get maybe one of these every 5 years. S2000, Elise, Cayman R, Boxster Spyder, and now this.
BMW, where the hell are you?
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I have always waited for such a car from BMW, 1 Series CSL, Z2...But nothing came nor is even in the pipeline. THe FT-86/BRZ is in some way the succsessor of the M3 E30. Blesphamy? Maybe, but isn't a 2500 kg AWD M also a blesphamy? THe BRZ even has the BMW style led tubes used for angel eyes.
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Four seater, a decent trunk space that you can even use to carry four R compound tyres to the track (if the back seats are folded down) ... this Subaru shall succeed where Lotus has always failed... everyday practicality!!!
Advevo, If you are reading this, you know you have to trade one of yours 1M... Just don't spend too much money to transform it into a proper track car... there seems to be one already and cheaper. Last edited by GoingTooFast; 11-18-2011 at 04:53 AM.. |
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looks pretty nice
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Those LED tubes are used by multiple manufacturers, too: Ford, SAAB, Volvo, Mercedes, etc.
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But the S2000 and the Miata are not 4 seaters, nor they have a decent boot.
Also, the E30 road version power started at 200PS then 218PS (both with 2.3L four banger) and finally 238PS (with the 2.5L engine version). I can see the same trend for this Subaru... |
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