My neglected car...

[valdeztke]

Originally Posted by RussRamz

They don't exist here in Germany. Every time I inquired to someone about them, they look at me confused. I've tried.

So you are saying if I were to pack up all my stuff, come to Munich and start a clear bra operation I'd have plenty of business?

[FloridaBoy]

LOL, just a couple questions on this thread...

1. you have a garage, why is it impossible to hand wash your car, do you not have a hose?

2. why on earth would anyone use a orbital/spinning tool to put wax on a 50,000 car, to get swirl marks?

[Dammmittt]

1. It's not my garage, I rent a spot in it. So, no...there's no hose.

2. Orbital tools + polish = no swirls.

[FloridaBoy]

LOL, I can't tell you how many "industry professionals" I have seen put swirl marks in auto paint with those things... including dealers and detailers! I wouldn't use any kind of freaking "orbital tool" on my black car if you paid me... but the choice is yours, swirl on, swirl off...

[peakpro]

Originally Posted by FloridaBoy

LOL, just a couple questions on this thread...

2. why on earth would anyone use a orbital/spinning tool to put wax on a 50,000 car, to get swirl marks?

I would hazard a guess that you have never used an orbital buffer...

an OB is probable the best device out there for detailing a car...( for the non-professional)...

when used properly..(and it is very easy to use) ...it gives results IMO unmatched by hand alone....

[peakpro]

Originally Posted by FloridaBoy

LOL, I can't tell you how many "industry professionals" I have seen put swirl marks in auto paint with those things... including dealers and detailers! I wouldn't use any kind of freaking "orbital tool" on my black car if you paid me... but the choice is yours, swirl on, swirl off...

I agree that dealers could cause problems...they don't give a f***

but professional detailers?...they must be pretty lame...

but to each his own....

[FloridaBoy]

Originally Posted by peakpro

I would hazard a guess that you have never used an orbital buffer...

an OB is probable the best device out there for detailing a car...( for the non-professional)...

when used properly..(and it is very easy to use) ...it gives results IMO unmatched by hand alone....

see my previous comment...
I agree, the choice is yours... and yes, they were very lame and it almost got nasty!
I used to have my cars done this way, never again.
Now I do it myself. Always by hand. End of story.

[gadget]

Originally Posted by Dammmittt

I guess I'll have to hit up Newbury when the sun comes out again

[epbrown]

Originally Posted by FloridaBoy

see my previous comment...
I agree, the choice is yours... and yes, they were very lame and it almost got nasty!
I used to have my cars done this way, never again.
Now I do it myself. Always by hand. End of story.

That's your choice, but if you've still got a bit of an open mind on the subject, try browsing the click&brag forum at www.autopia.org; they've got some real artists there and you'll see what a car, especially a black car, should really look like after proper detailing. A lot of pro detailers can't match the rookies there.

[Hawkeye]

I always do mine by hand... but it is more out of being cheap than preference.

[F87LUV]

wax on....... wax off

[peakpro]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

I always do mine by hand... but it is more out of being cheap than preference.

actually over time I believe you can save $$$ with an orbital buffer...

you end up using less product than you would by hand....

[Dammmittt]

Originally Posted by FloridaBoy

LOL, I can't tell you how many "industry professionals" I have seen put swirl marks in auto paint with those things... including dealers and detailers! I wouldn't use any kind of freaking "orbital tool" on my black car if you paid me... but the choice is yours, swirl on, swirl off...

I've never use an orbital...but I'm sure if it's never cleaned properly than it can lead to some serious scratches.

[Dammmittt]

Originally Posted by gadget