Moral Question...

[KingOfJericho]

Me: "Hey Babe, one of the guys on the forum said we have the most beautiful kids in the world!"
Wife: "Oh yeah? Who??"
Me: "Douche!"
Wife: "....................."

[Douche]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

Me: "Hey Babe, one of the guys on the forum said we have the most beautiful kids in the
world!"
Wife: "Oh yeah? Who??"
Me: "Douche............"
Wife: "....................."

Even douches love

[Lups]

Originally Posted by Sara504

New Orleans or Metairie, Louisiana.

I'll see when I have the free time to go interview the folks.

Always remember Sara that the best thing about each of our pasts is the fact that even though our personal history molds us, it gives us the tools to get away from it too. That was said to me by a friend, and it has basically been my guideline ever since.

... Besides, easy lives are for the pussies who don't have the balls to rinse and repeat... (last one was said by the same dude, just before he died)

[Douche]

I heard the same from a ho on a boulevard...


She then got beat by her pimp. Apparently rinsing time was not billable hours...

[Sara]

Originally Posted by Lups

I'll see when I have the free time to go interview the folks.

Always remember Sara that the best thing about each of our pasts is the fact that even though our personal history molds us, it gives us the tools to get away from it too. That was said to me by a friend, and it has basically been my guideline ever since.

... Besides, easy lives are for the pussies who don't have the balls to rinse and repeat... (last one was said by the same dude, just before he died)

I'm with you on that one. I was IN New Orleans during Katrina. I was 17.....That was the absolute worst and most testing time in my life.



For those who dont know, google New Orleans August 29, 2005.

[Bobble]

Originally Posted by Sara504

He's 44 and already had two young daughters from a previous marriage.

Not trying to pile on but does he not also have an adult daughter? Pretty sure you posted once you were helping his adult daughter and her husband find an apartment?
Also you are right he is an a-hole. Had an encounter with him at House of Imports awhile back when we bought the GF/SO/Wifey's MBZ, had a deal with a broker we know in writing from a sales person there and he completely destroyed the deal and laughed about it. His first name began with a L, Hispanic guy full head dark hair, shorter kind of slicked back? I remember him well as he pissed off my GF/SO/Wifey so bad he was ready to punch him. No scruples that one. BTW got a better deal as MBLN threw in an extended warranty once we told them the story. Apparently he's a legend for that crap.

[Sara]

Originally Posted by Bobble

Not trying to pile on but does he not also have an adult daughter? Pretty sure you posted once you were helping his adult daughter and her husband find an apartment?
Also you are right he is an a-hole. Had an encounter with him at House of Imports awhile back when we bought the GF/SO/Wifey's MBZ, had a deal with a broker we know in writing from a sales person there and he completely destroyed the deal and laughed about it. His first name began with a L, Hispanic guy full head dark hair, shorter kind of slicked back? I remember him well as he pissed off my GF/SO/Wifey so bad he was ready to punch him. No scruples that one. BTW got a better deal as MBLN threw in an extended warranty once we told them the story. Apparently he's a legend for that crap.

Yup and yup thats him you just described. Can you blame me for leaving him? He's always like that.

[Revartr]

Gross.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

Stress during pregnancy is no fun. My wife told her employer she was expecting at the 12 week mark (the standard doctor-recommended timing) and they sat her down and told her they were very unhappy that she waited that amount of time and that she handled the situation poorly. They immediately started treating her like shit (would tell her something was fine in person but write a scathing email to have in writing, etc). Fast forward to the 8 month mark and they just let her go with no real explanation other than "don't you think this is not working out?". Nothing performance based, they just didn't want to cover her maternity. Needless to say, it's not how we envisioned things going down and it certainly sucked the fun out of the process toward the end of the pregnancy. Scumbags...

That is sub human to do. Out of curiosity, what did your wife do for them? Good luck and I hope there is justice somewhere down the line for you guys.

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by minn19

That is sub human to do. Out of curiosity, what did your wife do for them? Good luck and I hope there is justice somewhere down the line for you guys.

Due to pending litigation, I would rather not divulge the specifics.

[Bobble]

Originally Posted by Sara504

Yup and yup thats him you just described. Can you blame me for leaving him? He's always like that.

Nope! She even complained about him to the HOI general manager who her broker knew and he just sighed and asked is there any way I can earn your business so that's sort of an indictment of fact that he knew. Honestly he was the stereotypical car sales dick, we had an email with bottom line numbers and he said no after filling out all the paperwork etc. and wanted 4K more because it was a popular model and feature set and when she said I have the offer in writing he laughed and said not from me. That's when she almost went across the desk at him.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Sara504

Cant afford it. You guys are free.

Hang in there Sara. I too recommend some sort of outside professional counseling. I had a very dysfunctional family upbringing and kept making poor choices in to my 20s. After years of my friends recommending me go to a counselor, I finally reluctantly did. I should of gone earlier and really helped me out a lot. I let go of a lot of bullshit from my families past that I didn't need to carry around anymore.

My wife and I also did couples counseling in year seven of our now almost fifteen year marriage. It to helped us out very much.

If you run in to a counselor you really don't like or don't connect with don't be afraid to move on to another one. It's like any profession, some are great and others not so much. But, when you find one you trust and can talk to it makes all of the difference in the world. Main thing is not to give up.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

Due to pending litigation, I would rather not divulge the specifics.

No prob, I get it. Get the effin bastards!

[Sara]

Originally Posted by Bobble

Nope! She even complained about him to the HOI general manager who her broker knew and he just sighed and asked is there any way I can earn your business so that's sort of an indictment of fact that he knew. Honestly he was the stereotypical car sales dick, we had an email with bottom line numbers and he said no after filling out all the paperwork etc. and wanted 4K more because it was a popular model and feature set and when she said I have the offer in writing he laughed and said not from me. That's when she almost went across the desk at him.

I dont blame her. He's the same way when we lived together. He'll say one thing and COMPLETELY not remember it and say it was something different. Thats why Im sueing him for child support in the form of garnishment. Because every fucking month he changes our oral agreement "what I never said you can have this much" is his answer every single time. Even though I have the screen shots of the texts messages with our agreement. Im done. Im so effing done.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by Douche

I heard the same from a ho on a boulevard...


She then got beat by her pimp. Apparently rinsing time was not billable hours...

Next time you go drop off your donation, please advice her life has other options and that there are people around willing to help others in difficult situations. Nobody should have to do a Douche for a dime, don't you agree, douche?


It must be a lot of work for you to come up with all these clever things to say, your originality keeps impressing me.

[MrPrena]

Wow. Only on BMW OT forum.

I am member of over 30 forums, and active (at least 3/week) in at least 10. This is probably only OT forum among all 30 that I see post like this everyday.

Originally Posted by Douche

I see you edited it, but I'm not free. I'm more high maintenance than an N54...

Originally Posted by Douche

I heard the same from a ho on a boulevard...


She then got beat by her pimp. Apparently rinsing time was not billable hours...

Originally Posted by Revartr

Gross.

Originally Posted by Douche

Some health insurance plans cover some of it... You don't have to pay out of pocket to go to sessions.

I have, I speak from experience. I have friends who are psychologists, and their biggest pet peeve is to hear the misconception that they only deal with "crazy". They go to sessions themselves (they understand how beneficial it is).

Or move to Canada and pay a little tax like we do and get medical coverage. I can host you (ok that's a joke, chill out). But seriously, there are options.

The biggest concern I have is that you may not be the best mom your child will need if you're not at your best. Think about it, it's hard doing it on your own (dealing with shit), and the child has the right to have the best possible. Not saying you're a bad mom, far from it, but that kids "sense" fear, problems, traumas, that kind of thing.

Sell the car and buy insurance. It's not like you're poor... You have horses and boats. Cmon... You're making it very hard to pitty you with the FWP of not being able to afford care driving a new BMW...

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by Sara504

So when you're old and lying in your hospice bed your car isnt going to do shit. It's your children who will be lying in that bed with you, holding you, kissing you, holding your hand and giving you all their love.

OP, you better be there for your childs first few weeks of life, because I guarantee you they will be there for your last.

You live in a nice little fantasy world. More than 90% of the people in this country die alone. Alone in the hospital, alone in the nursing home, alone in hospice. Get used to the idea of dying alone, your odds are good for that to happen.

You guarantee this? There is no guarantee that your kid won't hate you and want nothing to do with you at some point in their life.

There is no guarantee that your kid will out live you. They could become a drug attic and die, they could ride their bike in front of a bus and die. They could be diagnosed with childhood cancer at 5, and die.

You can't guarantee shit, but i don't suspect you'll ever realize this. I for one hope that none of those things happen to you or your child, because i highly doubt your ability to put yourself back together after that kind of loss. But it happens every day.

My best friend took her 5 year old in for a stomach ache 3 weeks ago. After a few scans they found a tumor on his kidney. A few more scans found node on his lung, which makes him stage 4. They removed his kidney the next day and started radiation and chemo after giving him a whole 2 days to recover from surgery. He's now facing 40 more weeks of chemo. And my friend and her husband are facing the harsh reality that their 5 year old son may not live another 4 years. And no body can guarantee them that even if he does beat this childhood cancer that he won't be cancer laden again at some other age.

Do go spreading around word of guarantees when they don't exist.

[UncleWede]

I went to a shrink when I was about 19. Once he convinced me that I wasn't living in some alien experiment where they just tortured me to see how much I could take emotionally (yes, I like Star Trek, the Menagerie) and I got him to not wear that damn bow tie, I was fine.

But deep inside, I know you ARE all freaking aliens and have me in some elaborate zoo.

[MrPrena]

This is one of the many reasons why I go to Church every week.

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

You live in a nice little fantasy world. More than 90% of the people in this country die alone. Alone in the hospital, alone in the nursing home, alone in hospice. Get used to the idea of dying alone, your odds are good for that to happen.

You guarantee this? There is no guarantee that your kid won't hate you and want nothing to do with you at some point in their life.

There is no guarantee that your kid will out live you. They could become a drug attic and die, they could ride their bike in front of a bus and die. They could be diagnosed with childhood cancer at 5, and die.

You can't guarantee shit, but i don't suspect you'll ever realize this. I for one hope that none of those things happen to you or your child, because i highly doubt your ability to put yourself back together after that kind of loss. But it happens every day.

My best friend took her 5 year old in for a stomach ache 3 weeks ago. After a few scans they found a tumor on his kidney. A few more scans found node on his lung, which makes him stage 4. They removed his kidney the next day and started radiation and chemo after giving him a whole 2 days to recover from surgery. He's now facing 40 more weeks of chemo. And my friend and her husband are facing the harsh reality that their 5 year old son may not live another 4 years. And no body can guarantee them that even if he does beat this childhood cancer that he won't be cancer laden again at some other age.

Do go spreading around word of guarantees when they don't exist.

In BMW forum, you are perfectly normal. You are cleared. Now, you may get off of Risperdal (risperdone), Haldol(haloperidol), Fanapt (iloperidone), or Invega (paliperidone) .

Originally Posted by UncleWede

I went to a shrink when I was about 19. Once he convinced me that I wasn't living in some alien experiment where they just tortured me to see how much I could take emotionally (yes, I like Star Trek, the Menagerie) and I got him to not wear that damn bow tie, I was fine.

But deep inside, I know you ARE all freaking aliens and have me in some elaborate zoo.

[Douche]

Originally Posted by MrPrena

Wow. Only on BMW OT forum.

I am member of over 30 forums, and active (at least 3/week) in at least 10. This is probably only OT forum among all 30 that I see post like this everyday.

What exactly caught your attention? (Because you quoted several posts)

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

You live in a nice little fantasy world. More than 90% of the people in this country die alone. Alone in the hospital, alone in the nursing home, alone in hospice. Get used to the idea of dying alone, your odds are good for that to happen.

You guarantee this? There is no guarantee that your kid won't hate you and want nothing to do with you at some point in their life.

There is no guarantee that your kid will out live you. They could become a drug attic and die, they could ride their bike in front of a bus and die. They could be diagnosed with childhood cancer at 5, and die.

You can't guarantee shit, but i don't suspect you'll ever realize this. I for one hope that none of those things happen to you or your child, because i highly doubt your ability to put yourself back together after that kind of loss. But it happens every day.

My best friend took her 5 year old in for a stomach ache 3 weeks ago. After a few scans they found a tumor on his kidney. A few more scans found node on his lung, which makes him stage 4. They removed his kidney the next day and started radiation and chemo after giving him a whole 2 days to recover from surgery. He's now facing 40 more weeks of chemo. And my friend and her husband are facing the harsh reality that their 5 year old son may not live another 4 years. And no body can guarantee them that even if he does beat this childhood cancer that he won't be cancer laden again at some other age.

Do go spreading around word of guarantees when they don't exist.

You said what I was thinking. While some may think it was harsh, it was a dose of reality. Hopefully things work out for your friend and her son.

[Mr Tonka]

I suppose i should apologize for sounding harsh. I've had to deal with a lot of people recently who think their kid is just going to be the perfect little human with abounding undying love for their parents and all people around them. No chance of them becoming one of the many scumbags of our current society. No chance of them experiencing some unfortunate medical diagnosis or being the victim of a heinous crime, or a freak accident. These people make little gods of their children and it typically doesn't end well for anyone because worshiping your kids does a disservice to all involved.

Sara, (prime example) you think your kid is going to hold the same level of love and compassion for her father as she does for you? No chance that you may inadvertently influence her to possibly think negatively of her father due to his actions? Even without your influence you think she'll love her father equally when she starts to believe he abandoned you guys? How much love and kisses and hand holding will he have on his deathbed by your daughter? Sure there is a chance she'll grow up super well adjusted and forgive any wrong doings she may manifest due to your attitude towards him. But statistically, the odds are heavily against that. Bottom line is that i doubt you'd grantee your ex that his youngest daughter will be there for him on his deathbed. Or is that ok since he wan't there for her when she was young? Which begs the question, if someone is a working all hours of the day and night to provide for his family and ISN'T there for their kids in the early parts of their lives, does that absolve the kid from being there for that parent on their deathbed?