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      06-09-2022, 11:52 AM   #221
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Just look at Evora GT values vs OG Evora's to get a sense for the reason to wait. I think Lotus will keep refining this car and eventually there will be one of them that is a must have. But this initial model, seems to be about working the kinks out and making the customers the beta testers (the press cars were not even finished and seem to have different dynamics between each physical car, which is a redflag).
To Lotus's defense, all the cars the press had were still pre-production vehicles.
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      06-09-2022, 11:56 AM   #222
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Emira is about $15-20k less than than GT4. It's more in alignment with GTS 4.0. Performance numbers are on par with GTS as well. It's definitely nowhere near GT4's performance. I have considered a GT4 but it's too track focused and loud for me. GTS is a solid option but will decide after test drive. I was hoping Emira's performance was higher than what they published but it is what it is. Perhaps there will be an S or GT version but that's likely 2024-2025.
The one issue I have with the GTS 4.0, is it's "homely" appearance. It just doesn't look special. I wish it had the GT4 bumpers minus the big wing or an aerokit option that looked a little more aggressive.
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Just look at Evora GT values vs OG Evora's to get a sense for the reason to wait. I think Lotus will keep refining this car and eventually there will be one of them that is a must have. But this initial model, seems to be about working the kinks out and making the customers the beta testers (the press cars were not even finished and seem to have different dynamics between each physical car, which is a redflag).
To Lotus's defense, all the cars the press had were still pre-production vehicles.
That's not a good thing though. Who puts a car out to be reviewed after doing a prototype last month and it's still not finished. When will it be finished? Why will it be that much different than the one driven here?

They've had so much time with this car, and all they did by doing this was to turn people away. Or allow people to wait until future models to see when they get it perfect.

Also who trusts that Lotus can deliver the Eletre when they can't complete the engineering on this car. It's not a good look for a company that needed to change people's perception.
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      06-09-2022, 07:28 PM   #224
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      06-10-2022, 05:05 PM   #225
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The one issue I have with the GTS 4.0, is it's "homely" appearance. It just doesn't look special. I wish it had the GT4 bumpers minus the big wing or an aerokit option that looked a little more aggressive.
I will say overall I prefer the GTS 4.0's subtle look over the GT4, you might see that as not special, but most people seem to find it pleasing to the eye.

but neither can hold a candle to the aesthetic level of the emira, and I don't think that's anything anyone would even venture to argue about

but looks aren't everything, ask me how I know
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      06-26-2022, 04:14 PM   #226
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The Emira for sure is gorgeous, but I recall some video comparing it to the 718/Cayman and the latter just seems more 'put together'. It looks a bit too wide compared to the Porsche.
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Harry Metcalfe finally does a review and test drive of the Lotus Emira - and it's a fine review indeed. "It's the Lotus I've always wanted", says Harry.. Don't know why I'm so taken with the Emira, but it's a stunning looker for sure IMO. One of the finest pieces of automotive design styling I've seen in a long time, but has a two year waiting list.. Still all that being said I'm still wanting a C8 Z06. Worth a watch..
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I'd ignore any review with an English accent.
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I'd ignore any review with an English accent.
Is that really fair? We don't ignore American reviews of Corvettes.
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Is that really fair? We don't ignore American reviews of Corvettes.
Not remotely close. The UK basically has no automotive brands left and they have a real weak spot for Lotus even if the Chinese own it.
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Met a track buddy who I haven't seen in a year or two and he ordered an Emira, he currently owns a 2016 GT4.

What he told us he will basically keep the emira as a last fun car but doesn't expect it to be as fun or good as the GT4 on track.
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Still waiting for awhile though lol
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Is that really fair? We don't ignore American reviews of Corvettes.
I do ignore German reviews of German cars though. Terribly biased.
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