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      02-10-2018, 05:19 PM   #45
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Reminds me of a former colleague asking 'why are there trees?', 'why are there birds?'. Must be a 'god'! LOL not the way logic or proof works my dear.

...And No, not everyone is agnostic. If you want to prove it exists, you have to proVe it. Otherwise, I can buy all the supercars in the world because I'm a billionaire!
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I believe in the God of the Bible, and Jesus is my friend who will reserve a room in his Father's house for me once I leave. It is a leap of Faith, I can't prove it to you.

I also have come to believe that God is omnipresent enough to be equally within the loving reach of other humans whose comprehension of faith lead them down a dissimilar path to the same destination.
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      02-10-2018, 05:45 PM   #47
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Everyone is agnostic as no-one can prove the existence of any god.
Can you prove that God does not exist?
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Try to behave in this temporary life guys. Some guy said he doesn't believe in God because he can't see it. Well there is no wind, air, oxygen then..
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Can you prove that God does not exist?
Agnostic is the state of mind that its impossibe to prove god exists or doesnt exist so he might as well be real or not be real. Not what you believe.
So you can be an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist.
But I dont agree with because it cant be proven that he either does exist or doesnt, everyone has to be agnostic.

I'm a man of science, so I'm an atheist and not agnostic, as I dont know any occurance/situation that points to a divine being controlling it instead of a logical explanation.

However I sometimes envy religous people that also live a religous life as it makes life much simpeler imho.
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A university professor called the class to order before beginning a rather unusual class in philosophy. After all the students have taken their seats and the normal introductory pleasantries of the day had been exchanged the professor stood up from his desk and moved hischair to an open area at the front of the classroom.

Walking to the whiteboard at the front of the room he wrote, “Prove this chair does not exist.”

Students immediately began writing lengthy philosophical explanations using in-depth thought processes. The professor
was pleased as he watched the faces of his students deliberate thoughtfully as they put their opinions to paper. As he glanced
around the room he saw determination and their facial expressions and he could tell this exercise was going to produce great papers.

However he could not help to notice one student was not writing at all.

The professor thought, “Could he have no opinion?” He could not help but wonder if he had failed the student.

At the next class professor handed out the graded papers. He paused when he got to the desk of the student for which he had not been able to observe any answer being written on the paper.

He smiled before quietly commenting, “this was the best response.”

Student sitting nearby and also noticed the lack of writing being done by this young mind.

“He barely wrote anything aside from his name on the paper,” thought one student.

With the students did not know was that the essay turned in at only two words on it, “What chair?”
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It's all a crock of shit. The RCC hunted down & killed those that believed in the 'old ways' in the name of Jesus, a carpenter that used cannabis to 'expand' his mind & to heal the sick. Anyone that didn't agree with the 'word' of God were brutally murdered, all you 'good' Christians should ask yourselves what kind of God endorses such things
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Of course you cannot prove the existance, nor the non-existance of god. It is called "faith" for a reason - you take it on faith, nothing else. Trying to prove, or not, is foolish. You either have faith or you don't.

To each his own.
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Some have mentioned that there either can't be a God, or He's awful, due to the suffering in the world. I think God gave humans free will, and continues to do so - otherwise He creates robots, not independent beings. Would it be better if God simply turned a blind eye to wrongdoing, and gave everyone a "get out of hell free" card? Would that be fair and just? Should Hitler have received such a card?
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It's all a crock of shit. The RCC hunted down & killed those that believed in the 'old ways' in the name of Jesus, a carpenter that used cannabis to 'expand' his mind & to heal the sick. Anyone that didn't agree with the 'word' of God were brutally murdered, all you 'good' Christians should ask yourselves what kind of God endorses such things
Ummm... where did you hear that Jesus used Cannabis? And though the RCC claimed to do any number of things in Jesus' name, why would you (or anyone believe that? Do you think Jesus is okay with that sort of thing?
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Definitely agnostic. I am not an atheist because I do not actively disbelieve ... my perspective is more simple.

If there's a god, then the fact that they do nothing about the immense suffering that is the state of so many on our planet makes "God" an irredeemable sadist. If he (or she) exists, he (or she) can go f*** themselves because they aren't worthy of carrying the garbage of so many people I know who dedicate their efforts to making our world a better place.

And, if you believe in God and are part of any of the mainstream organized religions that are common in the western world, for the most part I hold your belief system in contempt for the millions that have been killed in the name of your saviour, your god, your religion (and yes, there are exceptions).
Could the same be said if millions killed in the name of atheism, or simple human greed/powerlust? (Obviously yes). So it would appear the common denominator is the savagery of humans, not religion? Why stop at the western world? There are at least as many in the east, Africa, etc.
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Ummm... where did you hear that Jesus used Cannabis? And though the RCC claimed to do any number of things in Jesus' name, why would you (or anyone believe that? Do you think Jesus is okay with that sort of thing?
Do some research & open up your mind. I notice you chose not to comment on all those that have been brutally murdered in 'his' name. Do you think Jesus is okay with that?
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Our priest (A man from God) fucked his maid in the church (In the house of God)
He's now a chicken farmer.

If there is a God . I wonder where he was..
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Our priest (A man from God) fucked his maid in the church (In the house of God)
He's now a chicken farmer.

If there is a God . I wonder where he was..
Himmler was also a chicken farmer
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Everyone here seems to be either Atheist or in the Jesus camp. What about other gods like Buddhism which to me seems the most logical and workable without all these rules that do not make any logical sense.
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Can you prove that God does not exist?
Can you prove to me spider Man doesn't exist? You must see the issue with your question. The onus of proof is on the believer.
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I am so pleasantly surprised that there are so many like minded infidels on the f30 forum! Cheers!
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I believe in God. I don't understand how someone can look around them, and think it all happened from some sort of "swirling masses" or alien life; those require far more faith than believing in a God. I'm not being critical - that's just the way I see it.

From there, I think the Christian belief system makes more sense than other faiths as well.
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I am so pleasantly surprised that there are so many like minded infidels on the f30 forum! Cheers!
If Allah had his way we'd all be converted or beheaded
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Can you prove to me spider Man doesn't exist? You must see the issue with your question. The onus of proof is on the believer.
If you believe that there is no God, then the burden of proof falls on you to prove that God does not exist.
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Himmler was also a chicken farmer
Yeah I know . From what I heard and saw in the last years , most priests are homos , sex maniacs and pedophiles !
I believe only in what my eyes can see ..And that was only wars ,dead and destruction caused by different religions and their Gods ..
And that was absolutely no miracle !
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