When Men Were Men

Steeler · 02-24-2021, 07:58 AM

With all the chat about whether todays F1 drivers are more or less "manly" than previous generations I present the real era of "when men were men"

Different racing series but dangerous none the less.

Monocoque weighed approx 40kg. Approx 1580HP and a hulking great flat12 right behind your head.

ntg44 · 02-24-2021, 09:18 AM

I suppose there are less entertaining ways to kill yourself than this.

yco · 02-24-2021, 05:31 PM

this era at least feels more dangerous to me.. bicycle tires and almost up until knees drivers exposed moreover no rollcage'ish thing.. not even a glimpse of it..

some part of this era cars produced over 300hp and they could reach 300kmh.. i dont know their weight but how heavy they can be..

..Rush.. · 02-24-2021, 05:36 PM

Men are always men.
It's just times have changed.
Cavemen are men lol

DrFerry · 02-24-2021, 05:51 PM

For those too young to remember, I can recommend this movie.

https://www.amazon.com/Formula-One-D.../dp/B074XL2484

And teaser...

DrFerry · 02-24-2021, 10:39 PM

Once upon a time there were no driver aids. No ABS. No Traction Control. BIAS Ply Tires. Manual gear boxes, and no under body venturis providing massive negative lift. Sideways through the Eau Rouge uphill, and sideways through the high speed sweepers. It was glorious. Take a look at the bias ply tires working in these photos (especially the rears) and the large slip angles of yore..

Jbrown7403 · 02-24-2021, 11:57 PM

Agreed that The Quick and the Dead is very good ..... but I’m particularly fond of 1! Absolutely riveting !!

David70 · 02-25-2021, 09:34 AM

I read a book about F1 doctor Sid Watkins and find the "manly" thing interesting. Men in the past were encouraged and applauded for doing a sport that could kill or maim them and now we say the current ones are less manly because we figured out how they can do their sport and the chances of it killing them are very small.

Also makes me wonder if the current F1 driver is less manly than the ones of the past where it puts me on the "manly" ranking as I work at my computer in my office.

garyfried · 02-25-2021, 09:50 AM

BIG BALLS are BIG BALLS. It does not matter the era of death defying machine that they are in. Fortunately technology has helped the drivers to avoid ending their careers sooner than they elect to. I propose that any modern F-1 driver would have no problem getting into any other proper F-1 car and thrash it no matter the age of the car.

02-24-2021, 07:58 AM	#1
Steeler Colonel 2455 Rep 2,720 Posts Drives: Built not Bought 04 Z4 VF. E70 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kitchener Ontario Canada iTrader: (2)	When Men Were Men With all the chat about whether todays F1 drivers are more or less "manly" than previous generations I present the real era of "when men were men" Different racing series but dangerous none the less. Monocoque weighed approx 40kg. Approx 1580HP and a hulking great flat12 right behind your head. Attached Images __________________ W2A Intercooled Vortech V3Si, custom ducting, Alpha N, 60# Bosch,2.62 pulley, multi port WMI, Severn Tuning(pokeybritches), Tial, magnaflow,SS race muffler, 42 design,3.91LSD, H&R, Hotchkis,ST coils,Konis, Megan camber arms, AKG SS, Nylon mounts, Poly bushings, Carbon interior, CF Aero.APEX
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ntg44 Colonel 2904 Rep 2,146 Posts Drives: R8 4.2 Spyder Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Chicago iTrader: (3)	I suppose there are less entertaining ways to kill yourself than this. __________________ YT: ntg44
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yco i'm just saying 6021 Rep 2,634 Posts Drives: E71 X6M '10 (sold) Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Istanbul & Kyiv iTrader: (0)	this era at least feels more dangerous to me.. bicycle tires and almost up until knees drivers exposed moreover no rollcage'ish thing.. not even a glimpse of it.. some part of this era cars produced over 300hp and they could reach 300kmh.. i dont know their weight but how heavy they can be.. __________________ "Race car driving is like sex. All guys think they're good at it." Jay Leno
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..Rush.. Captain 981 Rep 928 Posts Drives: AW E88 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Men are always men. It's just times have changed. Cavemen are men lol
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DrFerry Field Marshal 6925 Rep 1,894 Posts Drives: '08 E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Greenville, SC iTrader: (5) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [5.25] 2015 BMW X5 [4.50]	F1 Drivers The Quick and The Dead For those too young to remember, I can recommend this movie. https://www.amazon.com/Formula-One-D.../dp/B074XL2484 And teaser... Attached Images __________________ '08 E92 M3 DCT Melbourne Red/Bamboo Beige Leather/EDC/SSP Spec-R DCT clutch discs/SSP Pro-Gold DCT Fluid/Quaife LSD/3:45 Final Drive by Diffs Online/BE Bearings & ARP Bolts/Vibra Technics Engine Mounts/LUX H8 180/DCT Tune by BPM Sport/PFC Z-Rated Pads/ECS Brass Brake Caliper Bushings/Alex Shop Solid Sub-frame Bushings/Motul 600/Tint Last edited by DrFerry; 02-24-2021 at 05:57 PM..
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DrFerry Field Marshal 6925 Rep 1,894 Posts Drives: '08 E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Greenville, SC iTrader: (5) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [5.25] 2015 BMW X5 [4.50]	Did It Ever Get Anymore Exciting Than This? Once upon a time there were no driver aids. No ABS. No Traction Control. BIAS Ply Tires. Manual gear boxes, and no under body venturis providing massive negative lift. Sideways through the Eau Rouge uphill, and sideways through the high speed sweepers. It was glorious. Take a look at the bias ply tires working in these photos (especially the rears) and the large slip angles of yore.. Attached Images __________________ '08 E92 M3 DCT Melbourne Red/Bamboo Beige Leather/EDC/SSP Spec-R DCT clutch discs/SSP Pro-Gold DCT Fluid/Quaife LSD/3:45 Final Drive by Diffs Online/BE Bearings & ARP Bolts/Vibra Technics Engine Mounts/LUX H8 180/DCT Tune by BPM Sport/PFC Z-Rated Pads/ECS Brass Brake Caliper Bushings/Alex Shop Solid Sub-frame Bushings/Motul 600/Tint
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David70 Colonel 1755 Rep 2,835 Posts Drives: 20 AM Vantage -13 Cadillac ATS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Cincinnati, OH iTrader: (1)	I read a book about F1 doctor Sid Watkins and find the "manly" thing interesting. Men in the past were encouraged and applauded for doing a sport that could kill or maim them and now we say the current ones are less manly because we figured out how they can do their sport and the chances of it killing them are very small. Also makes me wonder if the current F1 driver is less manly than the ones of the past where it puts me on the "manly" ranking as I work at my computer in my office. __________________ 2006 Z4M Coupe - ZHP knob, stubby antenna, clutch delay delete
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garyfried Private 287 Rep 98 Posts Drives: BMW 435ix Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Alberta, iTrader: (0)	BIG BALLS are BIG BALLS. It does not matter the era of death defying machine that they are in. Fortunately technology has helped the drivers to avoid ending their careers sooner than they elect to. I propose that any modern F-1 driver would have no problem getting into any other proper F-1 car and thrash it no matter the age of the car.
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