C8 Z06......Wow

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

Is anyone really buying a 1lz with no options? Realistically the average price will be around $135k. It’s still a Chevy.

Honestly i don't care how others are optioning their car. For me the way i see it, a car like the C8 z06, it being NA, it's not going to be a street destroyer. Because it's NA and because even if you were to modify it, what are you going to modify? That being said, for those trying to make this z06 a one stop shop for the ultimate car isn't realistic. Now if it was something with boost, then you can have your cake and eat it too.

Load the car up with options. That way you can have a "track" car if you want, and have a great powerful street car with all the luxuries from the options when you're not tracking it.

Loading up a "track only" type of car this z06 is, is pointless IMHO.

I was on the chevy website and the only thing i would want is heated and ventilated seats and steering wheel since i do drive my cars in winter. But i saw that it's only available on the 2LZ trim. So i guess i won't get it, since i dont want to spend an extra 10k or so just to get the heated seats and not want/need the rest that come with that upgraded trim level.

I'm getting a 1LZ. I want the car for it's engine first, everything else is just a bonus like having the wider fenders, better looking wheels etc.

Yeah it's still a chevy but where are you going to get an NA car with a warranty that makes almost 700hp for 100k? Even if you make it 125k. There isn't anything else out there unless you go really used, with mileage, with no warranty and a driving history you don't anything about.

[mikado463]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

Is anyone really buying a 1lz with no options? Realistically the average price will be around $135k. It’s still a Chevy.

so what and a Porsche is just a VW !

Name one Porsche with an msrp of the new ZO6 that will perform equally, I'll wait patiently ...........

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by mikado463

so what and a Porsche is just a VW !

Name one Porsche with an msrp of the new ZO6 that will perform equally, I'll wait patiently ...........

Yup exactly. Although i do love porsche, something like a 718 GT4 is what? 175k?

I would much rather have the C8Z with more power and a better sounding engine.

Plus we have to remember there are people on this forum who loaded up their M3/M4 to over 100k. For a fucking M3/M4 lol.

The C8Z is like 10x the car the M3/M4 is.

[M3WC]

Z06 pricing is to fit the Eray between the Stingray and Z06.

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by mikado463

so what and a Porsche is just a VW !

Name one Porsche with an msrp of the new ZO6 that will perform equally, I'll wait patiently ...........

I guess people only cross-shop new cars? Certainly nobody looking at a $135k z06 would also look at a $135k 991.1 GT3 or Turbo S. There are a ton of great cars in the $110-170k range.

I’ll say again, discounts will be available on these before you know it. People were putting deposits down expecting $110k with some options at 2-3% interest. Now it’s $135k and 6% interest. On a 72 month loan that’s a difference of about $600/month, and would put that payment at $2200/month with no down payment. Your average Corvette buyer is not rich. $2200/month is a lot for any car. That also doesn’t include tax title tags dealer fees and add ons etc. not to mention the ADMs.

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Yup exactly. Although i do love porsche, something like a 718 GT4 is what? 175k?

I would much rather have the C8Z with more power and a better sounding engine.

Plus we have to remember there are people on this forum who loaded up their M3/M4 to over 100k. For a fucking M3/M4 lol.

The C8Z is like 10x the car the M3/M4 is.

A GT4 is around $115-140k with options. A 4RS would be more like $175k.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

A GT4 is around $115-140k with options. A 4RS would be more like $175k.

Can't buy one, impossible.

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by M3WC

Can't buy one, impossible.

I'm aware. If I could get a 4RS at $175k I'd have bought it already, but people were comparing MSRP so yeah...

[RM7]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Yup exactly. Although i do love porsche, something like a 718 GT4 is what? 175k?

718 GT4 is about as fast as my SS 1LE around a track. GT3 is about the same as ZL1 1LE, although the newest GT3 probably bests that a bit, the GT3 RS and GT2 are probably better comparos.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

A GT4 is around $115-140k with options. A 4RS would be more like $175k.

And a C8Z is a better buy over the 2.

Better looking, bigger engine, better sound, more power.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by RM7

718 GT4 is about as fast as my SS 1LE around a track. GT3 is about the same as ZL1 1LE, although the newest GT3 probably bests that a bit, the GT3 RS and GT2 are probably better comparos.

You're right. When talking about actual track cars, which the C8Z is supposed to be. I guess we'll have to wait to find out some lap times, especially the ring, of what the z06 can do.

Doesn't matter how you slice it, the C8Z is the better buy, and A LOT cheaper than any other car you can think of in terms of performance.

Even if you use a 125-135k price tag of the C8Z for comparison.

Just goes to show that even with the slight price increase, a z06 is still a better bang for buck.

[M4Tejas]

Originally Posted by mikado463

so what and a Porsche is just a VW !

Name one Porsche with an msrp of the new ZO6 that will perform equally, I'll wait patiently ...........

In 72 one of the teachers at Hahn AB Elementary school had a new 914. It had a VW round emblem on the back. I have yet to see another one.

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

And a C8Z is a better buy over the 2.

Better looking, bigger engine, better sound, more power.

You think a C8Z looks better than a GT4/RS? Well, to each their own I suppose..and you’ve never driven either car but have already decided which one is better. Ok then. Both will be great cars, the Z just won’t be the bargain of the century that people thought it would be.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

You think a C8Z looks better than a GT4/RS? Well, to each their own I suppose..and you’ve never driven either car but have already decided which one is better. Ok then. Both will be great cars, the Z just won’t be the bargain of the century that people thought it would be.

The wing on the GT4 looks like even more of an afterthought than the one on the Z06, which didn't even seem possible. I think the vents on the GT3/GT4/GT2 are getting a little out of hand, they are obviously searching for every possible aero advantage. The Z06 does it with some pretty out-there design obviously, but that also kind of meshes a little better with it's sharper edges. It's kind of the same with some of the newer Ferraris and our "aggressive" styling post, except some of these are just doing it searching for every possible little aero advantage and at some point, it starts to look tacky or just "too far" for a road car. That line will be different for everyone of course.

I liked the previous generation GT4 a little better for styling. I think a GTS or S is pretty decent. Same with the 911s, now that the are all getting the "widebody" treatment.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

You think a C8Z looks better than a GT4/RS? Well, to each their own I suppose..and you’ve never driven either car but have already decided which one is better. Ok then. Both will be great cars, the Z just won’t be the bargain of the century that people thought it would be.

Looks is subjective but you can park both cars in a lot somewhere and everyone will gravitate towards the C8Z. Or you can park the GT4 and a stingray in a lot somewhere and everyone will gravitate towards the stingray.

A mid engine DCT car with a V8 that sounds like a ferrari making 670hp for 106k that supposedly runs 10.6 in the 1/4 for a car that's not a drag car that's rumored to run the ring at 7 minutes (we'll see), is not a bargain of century?

Give me an example of something better for the price, brand new.

[Donatello.]

Everyone, regardless of how deep your pockets are, should be pissed at GM about this pricing. They forgot it's a Chevy LOL!

Also, Tadge flat out lied. He told us all pricing increase would be in line with previous generations. They have effectively killed this car. They also just alienated most of the folks that buy Vettes. It is supposed to be America's affordable sports car. Corporate greed

What's the ZR1 going to cost, $200k+? LMAO GTFO.

I have a sub 300 spot on Ciocca's list & my low option Coupe is going to be over $130k. HTC? Over $140k! This is exotic money. Unreal...

One can option up a C8Z to north of $170k. That is highway robbery. What's even worse is people are lining up to ask to be raped without lube as if GM is ding them a favor. Idiots.

[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

They have effectively killed this car.

What's even worse is people are lining up…

People are lining up to buy, but somehow Chevrolet "killed this car?" Sounds like you're measuring success by your own level of interest.

[chad86tsi]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Everyone, regardless of how deep your pockets are, should be pissed at GM about this pricing. They forgot it's a Chevy LOL!

Also, Tadge flat out lied. He told us all pricing increase would be in line with previous generations. They have effectively killed this car. They also just alienated most of the folks that buy Vettes. It is supposed to be America's affordable sports car. Corporate greed

What's the ZR1 going to cost, $200k+? LMAO GTFO.

I have a sub 300 spot on Ciocca's list & my low option Coupe is going to be over $130k. HTC? Over $140k! This is exotic money. Unreal...

One can option up a C8Z to north of $170k. That is highway robbery. What's even worse is people are lining up to ask to be raped without lube as if GM is ding them a favor. Idiots.

Remember the '90's ZR1? Great car, no one bought them. priced it outside the reach of the demographic that buys vettes.

[Quadruple VANOS]

The Aero Pack is way too hardcore for me; plus I don't like the look anyway. This means the Z07 Performance Pack is out of consideration. My spec is $126k. Amazing value IMO.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Everyone, regardless of how deep your pockets are, should be pissed at GM about this pricing. They forgot it's a Chevy LOL!

Also, Tadge flat out lied. He told us all pricing increase would be in line with previous generations. They have effectively killed this car. They also just alienated most of the folks that buy Vettes. It is supposed to be America's affordable sports car. Corporate greed

What's the ZR1 going to cost, $200k+? LMAO GTFO.

I have a sub 300 spot on Ciocca's list & my low option Coupe is going to be over $130k. HTC? Over $140k! This is exotic money. Unreal...

One can option up a C8Z to north of $170k. That is highway robbery. What's even worse is people are lining up to ask to be raped without lube as if GM is ding them a favor. Idiots.

How did they lie? They priced this car based on inflation.

I would actually believe this car would've cost around 92k before inflation.

Don't forget, there are actual idiots paying 140k FOR A FUCKING M4 COMP. Now that's highway robbery.

And before people say well that's a BMW and a corvette is a chevy. That M4 started out as a fucking economy 4 series car. A 430I that onlyfans university girl is driving to school, then showing her ass when she gets off of school is essentially driving the same car minus all the performance goodies.

The C8Z is a higher performance car that is based off a base performance car. A stingray that has put a lot of more expensive cars to shame on the track, and some even in a straight line, at least 0-120 or so.

What other car can you get for 106 thousand, or fuck make it 120k that is mid engine, has a DCT trans, has a V8, sounds like a ferrari, that has almost 700hp, back by the usual GM warranty, and brand new?

Please name a few. Or better yet, just name one car. Brand new, that has the credentials better than what i just said above.

I do agree the z06 is slightly more expensive but don't forget the times we're living in now. And don't forget the performance it's capable of.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

People are lining up to buy, but somehow Chevrolet "killed this car?" Sounds like you're measuring success by your own level of interest.

It's totally understandable people are upset at the price.

But to say it's a failure because it's about 10k more than what they wanted to pay, is fucking hilarious.

GM will sell every single one.

And actually, i hope a lot of people back out because of the 10k+ price increase because that just gets me my C8Z much faster.

[Humdizzle]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

I guess people only cross-shop new cars? Certainly nobody looking at a $135k z06 would also look at a $135k 991.1 GT3 or Turbo S. There are a ton of great cars in the $110-170k range.

i agree. i was reading on corvetteforum that some guys who are jumping ship to a used 2018 R8 V10 or 570s considering the vettes price hike. can't say i blame them. the vettes FPC v8 is nice, but there are other factors at play when people spend this much.

anyway. i'm still waiting to see what these things are on the scales. Stingray is 3650 on the scales and the z06 will likely be 3700+. I think there will definitely be a difference in feel compared to a gt4 or 570s which are both around 3200.