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      07-25-2021, 03:28 PM   #991
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I'd rather have one electric car and the other gas until the packaging and weight is seriously reduced
I hear you, definitely a valid take.

Merc is going to sell it as trickle down tech from Formula 1. Using the E-turbo, it is rather interesting tech to be honest. Here is a video describing how system works.

I can see the marketing already and the heavy use of the "EQ" name/branding when it comes to AMG - it's the basis for their EVs. Mercedes isn't wrong to do it but I would be extremely interested to see the reliability and durability for something that is based off of F1 tech.
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      07-25-2021, 06:28 PM   #992
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      07-25-2021, 08:05 PM   #993
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New M headlights – is it known whether these will be a different shape, or simply a different light signature inside?

The leaked pics of G87's front bumper suggest different headlight shapes for M cars could now be a thing (G20/G80 difference aside).
I want to know this also
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      07-26-2021, 12:53 AM   #994
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Way to complex to own IMO

I understand what you're saying and it's valid for sure I still think 40 miles is pathetic

I'd rather have one electric car and the other gas until the packaging and weight is seriously reduced
I'm cool with 40 miles as it means most days I'd be on battery only and the weight from the battery pack isn't too much. I think a lot of people will be similar there.

As long as I have a V8 and a large fuel tank I'll be happy
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      07-26-2021, 01:33 AM   #995
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Way to complex to own IMO

I understand what you're saying and it's valid for sure I still think 40 miles is pathetic

I'd rather have one electric car and the other gas until the packaging and weight is seriously reduced
I'm cool with 40 miles as it means most days I'd be on battery only and the weight from the battery pack isn't too much. I think a lot of people will be similar there.

As long as I have a V8 and a large fuel tank I'll be happy
Try an electric car as your daily with well over 200 miles of actual range

The money you will save will pay for the fuel to power your V8 and some

It's a win win
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I have ordered my i4 M50 and cant wait for it to arrive! :-)

Thinking about changing out my X5 40e as well. Do you know if the iX M60 will have a bigger battery pack than the 112kwh in the i50? I read some roumour about a 120Kwh pack.

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Any word on when the EU will get the 230i coupe and the M240i (rwd) will become available?
This is probably going to be fall 2022 at the earliest isn't
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      07-29-2021, 05:04 PM   #998
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@ynguldyn

I have ordered my i4 M50 and cant wait for it to arrive! :-)

Thinking about changing out my X5 40e as well. Do you know if the iX M60 will have a bigger battery pack than the 112kwh in the i50? I read some roumour about a 120Kwh pack.

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Congratulations.
In the next few weeks I will be attending an iX and i4 symposium and competition driving comparison. Looking forward to see how good the M50 is.
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@ynguldyn

I have ordered my i4 M50 and cant wait for it to arrive! :-)

Thinking about changing out my X5 40e as well. Do you know if the iX M60 will have a bigger battery pack than the 112kwh in the i50? I read some roumour about a 120Kwh pack.

Thanks.
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      08-08-2021, 12:20 PM   #1001
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Added info on G20, G21, and G07 LCIs.
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Added info on G20, G21, and G07 LCIs.
Thank you. Has G80 LCI been confirmed for MY2023 as well?
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Added info on G20, G21, and G07 LCIs.
Can you comment on or even confirm that the U06 230ex will be based on the 4-pot B48 and not the 3-pot anymore? I guess the X1 30ex is too far out to say anything about (though it sounds logical they would go with the same drivetrain there).
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      08-09-2021, 11:09 AM   #1004
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Thank you. Has G80 LCI been confirmed for MY2023 as well?
It won't be officially an LCI but it will get the same updates like the dash.
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      08-09-2021, 11:26 AM   #1005
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Can you comment on or even confirm that the U06 230ex will be based on the 4-pot B48 and not the 3-pot anymore? I guess the X1 30ex is too far out to say anything about (though it sounds logical they would go with the same drivetrain there).
I really can't say for sure, can only offer my guesstimated probabilities: 80% B38 and 20% B48.
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Probably because they don't have the ability to extinguish a lithium battery ��
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It may be fast but can it go trough more than one 30min session before needing a recharge.. ?
I'm just brainstoming here, but maybe tracks could install fast chargers and make a profit?

A Taycan can recharge from 5% to 80% in about 15 minutes & the newer batteries will shave some time off of that ...

As for lithium-ion battery fires, no special equip is need for a Li-ion fire: foam extinguisher, CO2, ABC dry chemical, powdered graphite, copper powder, or sodium carbonate just as you would any other fire.

Class D extinguishers are only for lithium-metal fires, not lithium-ion batteries.


I would guess once one track puts in a fast charger, they'll get all of the EV business and then all of others will follow ... but the thing is there probably isn't the demand yet.
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I do not think technology is available for this yet, at realistic real world pricing.

You'll see it soon though.
W206 C63 is said to have 65km range, so about 40 miles. That is the latest and greatest unreleased tech. Although those figures are estimates, could be more or less pure electric range.
40 miles of range is super pathetic
That's more than the X5 45e and any other hybrid in the BMW lineup.
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I do not think technology is available for this yet, at realistic real world pricing.

You'll see it soon though.
W206 C63 is said to have 65km range, so about 40 miles. That is the latest and greatest unreleased tech. Although those figures are estimates, could be more or less pure electric range.
40 miles of range is super pathetic
That's more than the X5 45e and any other hybrid in the BMW lineup.
It's simply not enough and is absolutely to complex otherwise

It might as well be Electric with a simple range extender like i3/i3S REx

A much better value proposition
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did it get the "pure version" of the S58 or the further upgraded B58?
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The Next 2. 230e xDrive.
There is nothing about this that says "BMW". Could be an old Peugeot or a Renault from 10 years ago…

Apart from that huge grille….

Oh dear!
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