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      07-20-2021, 06:34 AM   #45
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That's not an assumption. There's plenty of factual sales numbers to back that up.
Please show them, specifically in 2019 when COVID is not a factor.

While I'm not a fan of all G generation cars in terms of design, there's absolutely no debate for me that they're much better cars. IMHO, the F generation cars (minus the F87) were all a step down from their previous E generation counter parts.

The F generation cars have a lot going against them. First attempt at EPS, questionable interior quality and design, so-so exhaust sounds. I also think the engines are better in the G generation cars (N55 vs B58 for example).

Only problem with G generation cars is they've grown and gotten heavier which is far from ideal. But only a test drive would convince me whether they've gone forward or backwards.
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Sales numbers between generations are not always easily comparable. There are always different external factors (economic, income, market preferences, etc.) that can influence sales, even the number of vehicles in the lineup has changed in a short amount of time (new vehicles such as 2GC, X2, X7 were introduced more recently) which would have an effect on overall total sales numbers.
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Agree, BG reminds me of Nardo (or a lighter shade of nardo) which is such an overplayed color at this point, I've seen it on everything from Audi's to Kia's and Honda's.

Thundernight looks great though, definitely my favorite color, reminds me of the E36 days.
as a Nardo owner, I'll be nitpicky and note the Kia color is "ceramic silver" and Honda doesn't have the color. Nardo is an Audi stock color.
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WHy did they hire a designer from Fiat as their lead designer? For such a big brand as BMW, you would have thought they would hire designer from Ferrari or mc laren ffs.
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WHy did they hire a designer from Fiat as their lead designer? For such a big brand as BMW, you would have thought they would hire designer from Ferrari or mc laren ffs.
It's not like those designers are any better. I actually think the Fiats are the best looking for each of the 3 companies' respective segments. I'm not really a fan of modern Ferraris or McLarens at all.

There was a shift in car design ever since Kia/Hyundai started making competitive looking designs and ever since then the trend has been "Go f***ing nuts."
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Unfortunately for the m3/4 they will likely sell more but only because of the AWD option now. But this 2 should definitely sell less than the current gen. No way people prefer this to the old. Give me an M2C or CS any day over the new M2 comp
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Unfortunately for the m3/4 they will likely sell more but only because of the AWD option now. But this 2 should definitely sell less than the current gen. No way people prefer this to the old. Give me an M2C or CS any day over the new M2 comp
Just like a lot of the posts in this thread/subforum, based on what? How can you say that when we don't even know what the car looks like?

While I certainly don't think the new M3/4 is perfect, I have no problem saying that there's other areas of the cars that are absolutely an improvement over the previous generation. While I love the current M2C, I wouldn't make a bet that the next one is not a better driving car after trying out the G80.
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Please show them, specifically in 2019 when COVID is not a factor.

While I'm not a fan of all G generation cars in terms of design, there's absolutely no debate for me that they're much better cars. IMHO, the F generation cars (minus the F87) were all a step down from their previous E generation counter parts.

The F generation cars have a lot going against them. First attempt at EPS, questionable interior quality and design, so-so exhaust sounds. I also think the engines are better in the G generation cars (N55 vs B58 for example).

Only problem with G generation cars is they've grown and gotten heavier which is far from ideal. But only a test drive would convince me whether they've gone forward or backwards.
I don't have the time to provide a full scale sales reports, but working at a BMW dealer for the past 5 years, I can tell you that the G chassis cars (like you mentioned) are better in almost every way (with a few exceptions) and are therefore selling better.
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Please show them, specifically in 2019 when COVID is not a factor.

While I'm not a fan of all G generation cars in terms of design, there's absolutely no debate for me that they're much better cars. IMHO, the F generation cars (minus the F87) were all a step down from their previous E generation counter parts.

The F generation cars have a lot going against them. First attempt at EPS, questionable interior quality and design, so-so exhaust sounds. I also think the engines are better in the G generation cars (N55 vs B58 for example).

Only problem with G generation cars is they've grown and gotten heavier which is far from ideal. But only a test drive would convince me whether they've gone forward or backwards.
I don't have the time to provide a full scale sales reports, but working at a BMW dealer for the past 5 years, I can tell you that the G chassis cars (like you mentioned) are better in almost every way (with a few exceptions) and are therefore selling better.
There you have it. It is becoming fashionable to lambast any new BMW cars. The F chassis cars have the worst interiors in their segments compared to Audi and Mercedes. The G chassis cars are reversing this trend.
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I don't have the time to provide a full scale sales reports, but working at a BMW dealer for the past 5 years, I can tell you that the G chassis cars (like you mentioned) are better in almost every way (with a few exceptions) and are therefore selling better.
Apologies! I misread your post and thought you were saying the G cars were selling worse than F like the other person implied.
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Unfortunately for the m3/4 they will likely sell more but only because of the AWD option now. But this 2 should definitely sell less than the current gen. No way people prefer this to the old. Give me an M2C or CS any day over the new M2 comp
Preference is irrelevant when you can't buy an F87.

This will be one of the only manual RWD coupes being produced for $60k-ish. It'll sell just as well as the F series, if not better.
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Apologies! I misread your post and thought you were saying the G cars were selling worse than F like the other person implied.
Ahh okay I was a little confused because it sounded like we were saying the same thing!
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I agree, I am not a fan of this color but it's not that bad. Maybe I will get it if that's the option that is left.
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