New Ytest
Sign out
Bimmerpost
Login
BMW E39 5-Series Forum | 5Post.com
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts  
Go Back   BMW E39 5-Series Forum | 5Post.com > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > General BMW News and Cars Discussion

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-25-2017, 10:19 AM   #1
Jason
Administrator
Jason's Avatar
United_States
43337
Rep
21,320
Posts

 
Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

BMW Group announces next steps in electrification strategy

BIMMERPOST NEWS
BMW Group announces next steps in electrification strategy
59
COMMENTS
Name:  P90270776-highRes.jpg
Views: 6046
Size:  311.1 KB

July 25, 2017

Flexible vehicle architecture to enable electrification of every model series
Fully electric MINI confirmed as MINI 3-door Hatch
Electric drivetrain Made in Germany, integrated into car in Oxford



Munich. Electrification is one of the central pillars of the BMW Group’s corporate strategy NUMBER ONE > NEXT and the company has announced that all brands and model series can be electrified, with a full-electric or plug-in hybrid drivetrain being offered in addition to the combustion engine option. Additional electrified models will be brought to market in the coming years and beyond 2020, the company’s next generation vehicle architecture will be structured in order to enable new models also to be offered as a full-electric vehicle.

The BMW Group announced today that the new battery-electric MINI will be a variant of the brand's core 3-door Hatch model. This fully electric car will go into production in 2019, increasing the choice of MINI powertrains to include petrol and diesel internal combustion engines, a plug-in hybrid and a battery electric vehicle. The battery electric MINI’s electric drivetrain will be built at the BMW Group’s e-mobility centre at Plants Dingolfing and Landshut in Bavaria before being integrated into the car at Plant Oxford, which is the main production location for the MINI 3-door Hatch.

Oliver Zipse, BMW AG Management Board member for Production said, “BMW Group Plants Dingolfing and Landshut play a leading role within our global production network as the company’s global competence centre for electric mobility. Our adaptable production system is innovative and able to react rapidly to changing customer demand. If required, we can increase production of electric drivetrain motor components quickly and efficiently, in line with market developments.”

By 2025, the BMW Group expects electrified vehicles to account for between 15-25% of sales. However, factors such as regulation, incentives and charging infrastructure will play a major role in determining the scale of electrification from market to market. In order to react quickly and appropriately to customer demand, the BMW Group has developed a uniquely flexible system across its global production network. In the future, the BMW Group production system will create structures that enable our production facilities to build models with a combustion engine, plug-in hybrid or fully electric drive train at the same time.

The BMW Group currently produces electrified models at ten plants worldwide; since 2013, all the significant elements of the electric drivetrain for these vehicles come from the company’s plants in Dingolfing and Landshut. Dingolfing additionally builds the plug-in hybrid versions of the BMW 5 Series and the BMW 7 Series and from 2021, it will build the BMW i NEXT. The BMW Group has invested a total of more than 100 million euros in electro-mobility at the Dingolfing site to date, with investment continuing as the BMW Group’s range of electrified vehicles further expands.

Electrification of all brands and model series continues

The new, fully-electric MINI is one of a series of electrified models to be launched by the BMW and MINI brands in the coming years. In 2018, the BMW i8 Roadster will become the newest member of the BMW i family. The all-electric BMW X3 has been announced for 2020, and the BMW iNEXT is due in 2021.

Today, the BMW Group offers the widest range of electrified vehicles of any car manufacturer in the world, with nine models already on the market. These range from the full-electric BMW i3 to the company’s newest electrified model, the MINI Countryman Plug-in Hybrid, which is produced by VDL Nedcar in the Netherlands. The company has committed to selling 100,000 electrified vehicles in 2017 and will have a total of 200,000 electrified vehicles on the roads by the end of the year.

The BMW Group has benefited from its early start on the road to electrification. Indeed, the company’s pioneering, large scale electric vehicle trial began world-wide in 2008 with the MINI E. Learnings from this project played a crucial role in the subsequent development of the BMW i3 and BMW i8, technology pioneers which themselves informed the company’s current range of plug-in hybrid vehicles.

__________________
Check on the Latest BMW News
Become a fan of Bimmerpost Facebook
Follow us on Bimmerpost Twitter
Subscribe to Bimmerpost Youtube Channel
Appreciate 1
      07-25-2017, 12:47 PM   #2
JorgenM
Private First Class
Norway
120
Rep
162
Posts

 
Drives: Jag i-Pace and BMW i3
Join Date: May 2016
Location: NORTH

iTrader: (0)

15-25% by 2025 sounds extremely low, knowing that some countries has already passed 50% and some countries are aiming for 100% EV sales by 2025 (I'm even talking fully electric and not hybrids)

Last edited by JorgenM; 07-25-2017 at 12:52 PM..
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2017, 01:14 PM   #3
JRobUSC
First Lieutenant
United_States
869
Rep
350
Posts

 
Drives: Mineral Gray 2019 330i xDrive
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

what about the 48V architecture that Audi and Benz are already starting to implement?
Appreciate 1
clbmw641.50
      07-25-2017, 01:19 PM   #4
evolution80
Captain
evolution80's Avatar
Austria
146
Rep
697
Posts

 
Drives: M3 F80 silverstone
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: austria

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
the beginning of the end...

like in that VW add where they suggest how cool it is to have speed limit info with auto brake function, next thing you know your car enforces the speed limit, doesnt let you overtake etc.


my incoming f80 will probably be the last car i spend my money on - all the joy and freedom that comes with driving will be taken away - all the while the media and corporations tell you how cool that is...

sad really


that said - electric drivetrain could be a good thing - i just mean all the autonomous driving stuff that will come with it...
__________________
if you're cast on thin ice, you may as well dance

enjoy your cars
Appreciate 6
cwulffy150.00
Rajmun340414.00
DeeKay556.00
scrammer424.50
      07-25-2017, 01:19 PM   #5
raysspl
Brigadier General
raysspl's Avatar
992
Rep
3,000
Posts

 
Drives: walking, bicycle, & bus
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Good stuff
__________________
re
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2017, 01:36 PM   #6
midwest 340xi 6sp
Lieutenant Colonel
midwest 340xi 6sp's Avatar
United_States
366
Rep
1,797
Posts

 
Drives: 2018 340xi
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: The Great Midwest

iTrader: (6)

I'm not all doom and gloom with EV. Especially if its truly better for our planet. But then again, we really don't have global warming, right?

What in the world am I concerned about...
__________________
Previous Rides: 535xi, M235xi, X3, E92 M3, E70 X5 35d, X6 50i, X6 35i, E60 550i, E46 M3 Cabriolet, E39 540i, E36 328i
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2017, 01:38 PM   #7
cbertels
Captain
cbertels's Avatar
1218
Rep
775
Posts

 
Drives: M3 YMB-SS
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Orlando

iTrader: (0)

I guess we can still have a gas powered generator in the trunk to recharge so we can still be nostalgic about the internal combustion engine.
Appreciate 1
      07-25-2017, 01:41 PM   #8
Pretender
Colonel
Pretender's Avatar
158
Rep
2,419
Posts

 
Drives: 06 330i, 07 328i, 16 X1, >17M2
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
06 330i  [0.00]
I have a little confidence about BMW full EV especially when Tesla is so far ahead with massive amount of Model 3 coming.
__________________
It's a great time to be alive
Appreciate 1
ORIGIN M.3160.00
      07-25-2017, 01:43 PM   #9
M3 Adjuster
Banned
Albania
7913
Rep
11,785
Posts

 
Drives: 1M, X1 M Sport, E46 325ic
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Dallas, Tx

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JorgenM View Post
15-25% by 2025 sounds extremely low, knowing that some countries has already passed 50% and some countries are aiming for 100% EV sales by 2025 (I'm even talking fully electric and not hybrids)
aiming for 100% EV sales in 8 years sounds incredibly ambitious and also highly likely to be delayed
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2017, 02:01 PM   #10
MRV99
Major
MRV99's Avatar
United_States
255
Rep
1,067
Posts

 
Drives: 2017 M3 ZCP / 2017 RRS SC
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Naperville

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2017 BMW M3 ZCP  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Midwest 535i View Post
I'm not all doom and gloom with EV. Especially if its truly better for our planet. But then again, we really don't have global warming, right?

What in the world am I concerned about...
I remember in the 70's when all the scientists were screaming about global cooling.
__________________

17 M3 ZCP -- 2017 Range Rover Sport SC
--RIP--
12 X5 50i Sport -- 11 M3 DCT -- 2011 X5 50i(Lemon) -- 2008 550 Msport -- 2007 x5 4.8 sport -- 2004 545 sport -- 2002 x5 4.4 sport -- 2001 540i Msport 2000 SL500 -- 1997 SL500
Appreciate 1
      07-25-2017, 02:01 PM   #11
3rdcoast228i
Captain
225
Rep
610
Posts

 
Drives: 2016 228i Msport
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Midwest 535i View Post
I'm not all doom and gloom with EV. Especially if its truly better for our planet. But then again, we really don't have global warming, right?

What in the world am I concerned about...
Where do you think all that electricity is coming from? Fossil fuels... mainly natural gas, and coal. There is a good bit of nuke power also. Don't tell me wind power and solar... they only produce a small fraction of the power used. And guess what? The wind doesn't always blow and the sun doesn't always shine. Nether one comes even close to the power output of a natural gas turbine power plant.

EVs are false advertising when it comes to actually reducing emissions. I'm not saying they aren't more efficient. But I am saying your zero emissions car is not zero emissions like they want you to think. Not even close... don't get me started on batteries either. Sure... those don't pollute...
Appreciate 6
      07-25-2017, 02:14 PM   #12
midwest 340xi 6sp
Lieutenant Colonel
midwest 340xi 6sp's Avatar
United_States
366
Rep
1,797
Posts

 
Drives: 2018 340xi
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: The Great Midwest

iTrader: (6)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3rdcoast228i View Post
Where do you think all that electricity is coming from? Fossil fuels... mainly natural gas, and coal. There is a good bit of nuke power also. Don't tell me wind power and solar... they only produce a small fraction of the power used. And guess what? The wind doesn't always blow and the sun doesn't always shine. Nether one comes even close to the power output of a natural gas turbine power plant.

EVs are false advertising when it comes to actually reducing emissions. I'm not saying they aren't more efficient. But I am saying your zero emissions car is not zero emissions like they want you to think. Not even close... don't get me started on batteries either. Sure... those don't pollute...
Well, I did say "especially if its true they're better for the planet"

I'm not an expert, but not naive enough to believe ev is the end all be all. Better than today? I can't answer that with any authority, I certainly hop so. Especially since Tesla Model 3 is high on my next car radar.

I do wish hydrogen was getting more traction than it appears to be getting today.
__________________
Previous Rides: 535xi, M235xi, X3, E92 M3, E70 X5 35d, X6 50i, X6 35i, E60 550i, E46 M3 Cabriolet, E39 540i, E36 328i
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2017, 02:22 PM   #13
emdeuce
Private First Class
197
Rep
154
Posts

 
Drives: M2 ZL9 6MT
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: (626)

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JorgenM View Post
15-25% by 2025 sounds extremely low, knowing that some countries has already passed 50% and some countries are aiming for 100% EV sales by 2025 (I'm even talking fully electric and not hybrids)
A quick google search shows Norway at 22.4% and Netherlands at 9.7% and the next highest would be Hong Kong 4.8% (Not attesting to the accuracy of this). They also probably take into consideration that there are competitors out there that consumers may prefer to purchase EV from over BMW. Regardless, I like their projected goal of 15% sales of EV in 2025 as it is unarguably a step in the right direction.
__________________
Living Life Turn After Turn!
[/url]
F87 M2 Performance Edition - 2017-current
F15 X5 35d - 2014-2017
E36 M3 - 2009-2016
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2017, 02:23 PM   #14
Thescout13
Brigadier General
Thescout13's Avatar
United_States
4990
Rep
4,978
Posts

 
Drives: '20 F80 M3CS, %E2%80%9818 GT3
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MRV99 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Midwest 535i View Post
I'm not all doom and gloom with EV. Especially if its truly better for our planet. But then again, we really don't have global warming, right?

What in the world am I concerned about...
I remember in the 70's when all the scientists were screaming about global cooling.
Yeah because science has not advanced at all in 40+ years...
__________________
Wife's Car: 2020 X4M Competition, Alpine White on Black Alcantara and Biege
Current Car: 2018 F80 M3CS, SMB, DCT, ZEC, MPE
Recently Departed: 2020 F87 M2C, LBB, ZEC, 6MT (Euro Delivery Aug. 29, 2019, totaled by an idiot in a Camry who then ran from the scene)
Wife's Prior Car: 2018 F80 M3, Yas Marina Blue, DCT, Black 19s, Carbon Structure Anthracite Cloth/Leather Combination, Driving Assistance Package (Euro Delivery Oct. 9, 2017)
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2017, 02:57 PM   #15
stvding
Major
stvding's Avatar
Canada
674
Rep
1,447
Posts

 
Drives: G20 M340ix
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Markham

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by evolution80 View Post
the beginning of the end...

like in that VW add where they suggest how cool it is to have speed limit info with auto brake function, next thing you know your car enforces the speed limit, doesnt let you overtake etc.


my incoming f80 will probably be the last car i spend my money on - all the joy and freedom that comes with driving will be taken away - all the while the media and corporations tell you how cool that is...

sad really


that said - electric drivetrain could be a good thing - i just mean all the autonomous driving stuff that will come with it...
Pretty sure speed limit will be raised if all cars on the road are fully autonomous. But you won't care when u are not driving.
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2017, 03:03 PM   #16
ORIGIN M.
Banned
3160
Rep
9,134
Posts

 
Drives: ///M
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Northern Hemisphere

iTrader: (0)

To little, to late!!
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2017, 07:02 PM   #17
bjcarls
Lieutenant
469
Rep
581
Posts

 
Drives: 22 R1S, 23 Z07
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Hog Country

iTrader: (0)

I for one want more than a cookie cutter Tesla, maybe Prius owners are ok with it. I think anything from the Europeans with similar performance will put a hurt in Tesla, even at $5-10k more for a better interior. I'm defiently looking at the e' range for BMW but 10-15 miles on battery is a fucking joke, especially when you lose that much speed, i.e. Not trading a X5 50i for a X5 e. I and the kids need speed! If I didn't I'd buy a Toyota. I hope BMW makes a great electric car in the future.
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2017, 07:16 PM   #18
NFiftyWon
Second Lieutenant
98
Rep
239
Posts

 
Drives: E90 LCI 328 X-Drive
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Colorado Springs

iTrader: (0)

I hope im dead before the day governments begin to enforce all electric drivetrains
Appreciate 4
      07-25-2017, 07:26 PM   #19
jackelliott
Enlisted Member
United_States
25
Rep
36
Posts

 
Drives: 2014 m235i
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: New Hampshire

iTrader: (0)

Wtf is iNEXT ... A car? A segment? Marketing gimmick that only bmw employees understand?
Appreciate 1
      07-25-2017, 07:32 PM   #20
mundo74
Lieutenant
70
Rep
564
Posts

 
Drives: F10M5
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: P.Pines, FL

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Midwest 535i
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3rdcoast228i View Post
Where do you think all that electricity is coming from? Fossil fuels... mainly natural gas, and coal. There is a good bit of nuke power also. Don't tell me wind power and solar... they only produce a small fraction of the power used. And guess what? The wind doesn't always blow and the sun doesn't always shine. Nether one comes even close to the power output of a natural gas turbine power plant.

EVs are false advertising when it comes to actually reducing emissions. I'm not saying they aren't more efficient. But I am saying your zero emissions car is not zero emissions like they want you to think. Not even close... don't get me started on batteries either. Sure... those don't pollute...
Well, I did say "especially if its true they're better for the planet"

I'm not an expert, but not naive enough to believe ev is the end all be all. Better than today? I can't answer that with any authority, I certainly hop so. Especially since Tesla Model 3 is high on my next car radar.

I do wish hydrogen was getting more traction than it appears to be getting today.
sorry to say but hydrogen is an energy loser. only viable imo is fusion unlocks unlimited electricity and no one cares about efficiency.
__________________
More power please
Appreciate 0
      07-25-2017, 08:54 PM   #21
antzcrashing
Brigadier General
antzcrashing's Avatar
United_States
1966
Rep
3,257
Posts

 
Drives: 2018 BMW 440i GC
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Eastern MA

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by JorgenM View Post
15-25% by 2025 sounds extremely low, knowing that some countries has already passed 50% and some countries are aiming for 100% EV sales by 2025 (I'm even talking fully electric and not hybrids)
15-25 percent sounds realistic. Step out of the tesla, California, and sweden fantasyland. The real world isnt going to take electrics as fast as you want. If bmw is blindsided by the teslas of the industry they will ramp up more, but honestly I think the tesla hype is overblown
Appreciate 1
DeeKay556.00
      07-25-2017, 09:26 PM   #22
IB M
Brigadier General
2841
Rep
4,301
Posts

 
Drives: 2013 M3 6MT
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: North Carolina

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2017 BMW M3  [8.50]
2013 BMW M3  [10.00]
Simply baby steps to a future where wind and solar play a much larger role and power EVs. No one knows how fast we will get there but it does look like the journey has started and has momentum to keep progressing.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:32 PM.




5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST