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      06-29-2021, 05:13 PM   #23
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As for the new WRX, don't hold your breath that it's going to be anything very exciting. It's still based on the Impreza which is not a sexy looking car. The new WRX will look just as odd as the one it's replacing. To make it sexy would require an entirely new platform. The WRX will be based on the new Impreza which looks largely like the old Impreza.
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As for the new WRX, don't hold your breath that it's going to be anything very exciting. It's still based on the Impreza which is not a sexy looking car. The new WRX will look just as odd as the one it's replacing. To make it sexy would require an entirely new platform. The WRX will be based on the new Impreza which looks largely like the old Impreza.
Looks are one thing, what really matters is whats under the hood\driveline. They really need to start doing like the STI with the adjustable bias split, if the WRX had that bias split adjustment to make it less of a plow\understeer monster i would have bought it in a heartbeat at its base pricepoint, and seeing how 300hp now is not a big deal, it better have at least 300hp\tq.
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You're thinking of the GR Yaris. Toyota has confirmed that a GR Hot Hatch (very likely the Corolla) is coming to the US.
Gotcha. That would be interesting. I'm guessing that's still probably a few years out.
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Reveal is here:

https://www.subaru.com/2022-wrx


Edit: Just watched it. So bad. More lateral movement.
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Reveal is here:

https://www.subaru.com/2022-wrx


Edit: Just watched it. So bad. More lateral movement.
STILL banging on about their WRC legend, when they havent been doing WRC since 2008.

Anyone have insight on whether ringlands is still a thing?
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STILL banging on about their WRC legend, when they havent been doing WRC since 2008.

Anyone have insight on whether ringlands is still a thing?
I'm sure it is, not that it matters. About the only improvement I can see is adaptive dampers on the higher end GT trim. And a bigger 2.4L engine with 3 more HP and 0 more torque. Uh, K.

I've given Subaru a break for a lot of WRX/STI releases in the past, but I honestly can't find any redeeming qualities about this new generation. The STI will be nowhere near 400HP. I'll be surprised if its more than 330.

I'm very happy I bought my 2020 STI when I did. At least it has plentiful and well developed aftermarket support to get to where I want the car to be. And still feels like the "good old days."
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It's just so terrible. I'm glad I got to own an '05 STi for 3 years, it was a highlight-reel car for sure. Everything after is just crap.
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Those plastic fender moldings are hideous.

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Those plastic fender moldings are hideous.

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And it doesn't even end with that. The fender flares aren't even flares. It's like the plastic fender cladding is there to give the illusion but in reality it's not that different from a Crosstrek. Compare the flares to the previous few generations and it's obvious. Painted fenders wouldn't make this any better and would only exaggerate this.

I'm actually surprised I don't dislike the overall design as much as I thought I would, but they really cheaped out on the widebody/fender flare attempt and unpainted plastic sections. It's more of a disguise than anything.
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Oof, that rear end is horrendous, a step backwards for sure.
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The GR Corolla can't come soon enough…
How far Toyota has come for us to be able to say something like that about a Corolla. I'd never buy one for the same reasons that I can't buy an Elantra N. Just can't get on board with a Corolla or Elantra. But as competition to improve the cars I do care about, I welcome them to the market with open arms. But the new WRX/STI would need a significant facelift for that to happen for me. I'm good with my 2020 dinosaur. I'll be quite content on E85 and a bigger turbo.
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Awful. 3HP and Crosstrek cladding. Can't wait for the new STI with a tire shredding 311HP!

Also the new GT trim is apparently CVT only, what the hell were they thinking?
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Awful. 3HP and Crosstrek cladding. Can't wait for the new STI with a tire shredding 311HP!

Also the new GT trim is apparently CVT only, what the hell were they thinking?
Not to mention they blatantly try to distance themselves from the fact that their "Subaru Performance Transmission" is a CVT at all. There's nothing indicating it is one versus a torque converter automatic on the official release. When it's clearly laid out on journalism articles on the car. Subaru knew what they were doing calling it an automatic everywhere. Just call it like it is. Deliberate omission.
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Subaru continue to amaze me, they are the new Toyota, sell in spite of themselves.
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How far Toyota has come for us to be able to say something like that about a Corolla. I'd never buy one for the same reasons that I can't buy an Elantra N. Just can't get on board with a Corolla or Elantra. But as competition to improve the cars I do care about, I welcome them to the market with open arms. But the new WRX/STI would need a significant facelift for that to happen for me. I'm good with my 2020 dinosaur. I'll be quite content on E85 and a bigger turbo.
So true. I have to say though, Toyota have been on a roll lately with their cars. I think they're one of the few that are succeeding in making enthusiasts cars. I personally love the fact that they're offering something exciting, but you also know you are getting some of the most reliable cars in the world. That's a win win.
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This has to be one of the strangest unveilings in years. The car looks utterly bizarre. It's like Subaru owns shares in a company that makes black plastic cladding that they are propping up. Those hexagonal black fender flares give the illusion of the car being lifted. The worst part is that this car will sell very well because Americans seem to really love the brand regardless of the product.

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This has to be one of the strangest unveilings in years. The car looks utterly bizarre. It's like Subaru owns shares in a company that makes black plastic cladding that they are propping up. Those hexagonal black fender flares give the illusion of the car being lifted. The worst part is that this car will sell very well because Americans seem to really love the brand regardless of the product.



It's a CVT.
I agree. I don't think this is targeting the same demographic as before. As a fan of the model since the 04 STI, this doesn't resonate with me at all. I owned an 09 WRX before my 20 STI, so I don't think I've changed or outgrown the WRX. I've usually looked beyond the looks for the meat and potatoes but there's no more beef in this model than the last one.

I was thinking this would realistically have had at least 290 HP/280 lb-ft to outpace the added weight. The adaptive dampers are cool, but if I understand correctly, only available with the CVT. And 2 colors? An ugly orange and a ho-hum gunmetal. IDK. This ain't it chief.

I'm going to laugh my ass off if the new STI has like, 311 HP just to say it's more than the current 310.


EDIT: Found more colors, white and a dark blue:

https://media.subaru.com/image-galle...eryId=432&mid=
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YES! This is exactly as boring and bland as I thought it would be!, coming from Subaru-lifted-wagons-Inc.
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Not even their iconic world rally blue?? On their launch??
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Not even their iconic world rally blue?? On their launch??
In my opinion, WRB stopped looking good after the 07 models. Anything 08+ looks much better to me in the darker metallic blue. The current gen has Lapis blue which is my favorite color that I couldn't find, and the previous gen had a great blue (I think it was called Plasma blue pearl) once the STI sedan was reintroduced.

Idk, I feel like Subaru changed the color and kept the name. It doesn't look the same as the 02-07 cars. Or at least it doesn't hit the same as it used to.
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At least the interior looks better. I would hold out for the STi and see what they make of it.
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