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12-16-2021, 06:43 AM | #45 |
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That would be FRANK Patek. It would be nice to see the minutes of the board meeting where Frank proposed the idea and see who on the board thought it was a good one!
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12-18-2021, 10:53 AM | #46 |
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01-23-2022, 04:34 PM | #47 |
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Hard to believe but I got another post card today from BMWCCA. That makes at least six plus emails.
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01-23-2022, 04:37 PM | #48 |
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Yea, I got another one as well
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Same here. I can't believe they keep sending these cards. Really disappointed in the club.
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Funny that at least one of you correlated this with the 'Who's Who' directories, as the 'company' behind this does something very similar as well:
https://www.bbb.org/us/tx/dallas/pro...-0875-19000719 I've tossed at least 5 cards too. |
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01-23-2022, 07:44 PM | #51 |
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02-03-2022, 06:15 PM | #52 |
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Hard to believe but I got another post card today and another email. Will this spam ever stop?
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I've gotten at least 2 more since my last post, and finally an EMAIL today. Why didn't they just do email in the first place?? Cost savings would have been MASSIVE, and we could have opted out (had they given us that option).
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02-04-2022, 05:04 AM | #56 |
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Same here with both another post card plus the e-mail. I've lost count now how many of these cards have been sent, 7? The illicit plea on the card saying to call to "confirm" your membership info...sigh.
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02-04-2022, 01:04 PM | #57 |
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Amen for having made it a simple email. If I was going to respond to it I'd be much more likely to do it via an email link. Membership fees are probably going up next year for all the money they've spent on this.
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Just to clarify a few things, more than 1000+ people have contributed to this campaign, but no idea if they purchased anything or not. Documenting the club's history is a great thing but CCA doesn't have the internal resources to do it themselves; as a volunteer-run club, some things have to be contracted out.
I find some of this irritating too, I get those mailers and emails, but the vendor could be paying for all cost of sales. We don't know if the club has to pay for anything, but people will speculate because well....the internet
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So the whole campaign is based on an intentional lie, a ruse, to con people into calling that number and then be presented with the telemarketing spiel. That is beneath the club and never should have been allowed to proceed.
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The elected officials who make up the board are all un-paid volunteers. They deserve your respect and support for their time and effort. Most have come up through the ranks of local chapter management—often providing hundreds of hours of volunteer work to support the Club. But their job is to oversee those who get paid the salaries to do the day-to-day operational jobs. This would include approval of such a program as this "Who's Who" promotional dreck. I can only assume it was proposed by the Executive Director (paid) as a money-maker that would cost the Club nothing. There are many other ways the Club can prostitute itself that might be even more offensive to many member, but this one has just been so high-school in its presentation so far. There was already a 50th Anniversary publication provided by the Club and put together by Jackie Jouret for the "Passion" exhibit at the BMWCCA Foundation museum. I should know. I was interviewed for the book, even though the author was told she could not print what I told her related to very important historic decisions concerning Roundel publication changes made decades before, involving founding members of the Club. Yes, those who serve on the Club Board of Directors are volunteers. The Roundel and office staff are not. Make no mistake about that. They are fighting for and proposing projects to preserve their own jobs. And this disingenuous "offer" is just one of them. Changing the name and farming out The Event Formerly Known as Oktoberfest to high-school event management with a penchant for charm bracelets was another. If you don't like what you're seeing, be sure to express your dissatisfaction to your regional vice-president and the rest of the board. Don't bother with the National Office because they are supposed to be under the direction of the board. And see if you can find the Club's financial statement which we used to publish in Roundel every year. |
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Way more than 98% of American citizens are not paid to sit in Congress or the Whitehouse, but those paid people are the ones who guide, govern, and create the laws and appoint the judges. They are also the ones we blame when something goes wrong. The Club is no different. If you don't like the direction the Executive Director (paid employee) is taking the Club, then let your area representative (a volunteer) know. The board is tasked with directing the Club. All I'm saying is if you don't like something the Club is doing, then either let them know or volunteer to run for office and change it. I've been there and done that and decided I'm done with it. Joining a Club to beat yourself with it is not a good plan. I think I said that in one of my first Roundel columns.l I still want to see the Club financials. Maybe I missed them. Someone please point out where I can see them. Thanks |
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02-08-2022, 06:46 PM | #64 |
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Oh crap. The BMW club I joined in 1971, long before I'd heard of BMW CCA—who currently share office space with BMW CCA in South Carolina—is also doing the same "oral history" project as the one we're talking about here. And answering the same questions from its membership. BMW Motorcycle Owners of America. Times must be tough for everyone.
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I also got another card recently, #4 I believe in addition to emails. From my point of view this scam now and I will not be renewing my membership. I had higher expectations of this club and believed it is run by people that understand their members.
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For those who want to opt out such as myself. You can do so @ http://bmwcca.org/ohp-opt-out
It will opt you out of mailers and emails regarding this project. |
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