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Too many people are spewing too many opinions leveraging nothing more than presumptions. Everywhere.
The man is certainly successful and did not get to where he is today by sheer luck…the recent disdain for him is almost comical. If he stuck to EVs most everyone would be praising him for helping the environment and creating ‘cool’ cars. Regarding Twitter, the severance packages were more than generous and employees were given several ultimatums. I really fail to see where the disconnect is here. Elon is cleaning and restructuring Twitter with the gloves off. Do you think you’d do any different if a significant portion of your net worth was just used to purchase an investment? Again, everyone loves to be a critic with nothing more than headlines and articles that often don’t paint the full picture. Not directed to anyone in this thread in particular, but just tired of hearing this negative narrative 24/7. Don’t believe everything you read as you’re missing substantial facts and are not privy to the information leveraged for decision making. As an unaffiliated party, it’s best to see where Twitter and its current employees are in 6-12mo and draw your management conclusions then. |
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11-25-2022, 08:00 PM | #201 | |
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Kodak, the digital camera will never catch on. BP will have their own problems soon. Some we’ve talked about in the other thread and the death of the auto enthusiast. Will definitely see. I think truth social is just completely mis-managed and obviously targeting a very specific portion of the market. Will be also interesting to see if these worthless people he laid off don’t get together and make better version of Twitter. See it happen all the time in business. Even Musk admits this is completely out of his wheelhouse. Last edited by minn19; 11-25-2022 at 08:14 PM.. |
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11-25-2022, 08:03 PM | #202 | |
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The funny/ironic thing is most of the people praising Musk in this thread are very anti EV and really don’t think there are major problems with the environment that need to be fixed/saved. Many have also made the argument and may be correct that EVs are worse for the environment. Politics does indeed make strange bedfellows. |
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11-25-2022, 08:17 PM | #203 |
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This is an underrated fact. Personally, I don’t love Elon but I don’t hate him. I’m more interested to see where Twitter ends up from a case study perspective. I’ll happily read about the nitty gritty details later and whoever is at the helm is moot to me.
I am so exhausted of hearing never ending opinions from newly distressed/restructuring professionals. Keep in mind most of these were previously foreign affair professionals (Ukraine) and before that epidemiologists (COVID). |
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11-25-2022, 08:33 PM | #205 | |
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Also we need to seperate Musks business acumen from his personal traits. The fact that he's the richest man in the world is IMO evidence that he is good at business. That does not mean he's a nice guy or a great father or good at chess or anything else. It means when it comes to making money he is obviously skilled at it... because he's done it. Considering the thread is about his business deal accuqiring twitter that's what I feel everyone who is "pro" Musk is judging him on. |
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11-25-2022, 08:38 PM | #206 | |
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I do feel for the people laid off in those firms but Musks mass culling of over 50% of staff is on another scale. Probably lost more in ad revenue and wealth losses than money saved by buying twitter and Firing most staff which for now nets him a double dunce award. |
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11-26-2022, 07:22 AM | #209 | |
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If it was simply a business decision to acquire a company to make money then cleaning house to reduce costs is a typical mergers and acquisitions strategy. If he can run the company with 50% less staff then he's saving money. I suspect its a bit of both. Time will tell. |
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If you look at it that way it does make a lot of sense and as the owner he has the right to do so (and the responsibility take the credit /fallI for it) Im just uneasy at the way the employees were potrayed as workshy and losers and whiners and utterly dispensable etc. As you say time will tell. |
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11-27-2022, 07:37 AM | #211 |
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It's funny how Republicans hold up Trump and Musk (both guys who got millions from their parents businesses and somehow think they are geniuses, and Trump has bankrupted how many companies?) I don't like Musk, and I've only worn masks in places it was required. My fiancé has caught the 'Rona twice, I haven't in the same house. I would bet I've been to more concerts and comedy shows and restaurants, by an order of magnitude, than the average American. The generalizations just make you look lazy and stupid. So just don't. |
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I just think it's funny that Trump wasn't racist, this or that back in the day when he was hanging out with all of the most prominent African American politicians and celebrities………being glorified in rap music (…and when he was romantically involved with an African American woman), but as soon as 2016 rolled around and he bucked the system, the labels and defamation began. People are fickle creatures. The same has happened to Musk. As a Democrat donor, etc., he was the best thing since baguettes and coffee. Now that he has bucked the system, he's a hate speech aficionado. |
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Folks like Trump and Musk change their view based on how it benefits them. If they believe being a Democrat will help them gain power and money then they play that role. If it's more beneficial to be a Republican they morph into that role. They only care about themselves and don't give a rats ass about either party. |
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…maybe like Musk said, it was his disappointment with how the administration has run the country that has prompted his change. You don't vote Democrat your entire life and decide to go against the grain unless you change fundamentally. There are a lot of normal people who have changed too. |
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