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      05-20-2022, 08:22 AM   #5853
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I was just coming home from picking up the Mighty Dodge from the shop, and a flatbed passed in the opposite direction with our town's police SUV on it heading towards the town garage. Looks like it took a hit on the driver's side, between the B-pillar and rear door. It didn't appear that the crash was severe enough to pop the giant marshmallows, and I suspect that the only injury will be a whole lot of writer's cramps from all of the accident report paperwork.....
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I was just coming home from picking up the Mighty Dodge from the shop, and a flatbed passed in the opposite direction with our town's police SUV on it heading towards the town garage. Looks like it took a hit on the driver's side, between the B-pillar and rear door. It didn't appear that the crash was severe enough to pop the giant marshmallows, and I suspect that the only injury will be a whole lot of writer's cramps from all of the accident report paperwork.....
I do not miss the paperwork.
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      05-22-2022, 06:23 AM   #5855
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There's a shooting/killing nearly every night here in central florida in the morning paper. Is that normal nowadays?

What goes on overnight that most of us sleeping are unaware of?

Do you think home alarms should be set every night?
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There's a shooting/killing nearly every night here in central florida in the morning paper. Is that normal nowadays?

What goes on overnight that most of us sleeping are unaware of?

Do you think home alarms should be set every night?
Alarms are great. While alarms aren't always a deterrent, it's better than nothing. If nothing else it can warn you in a situation where you might not have recognized a threat.

As to the other questions…..


….there has been a significant shift towards lawlessness and that is the "new normal." People are so emboldened to commit criminal acts and states like mine don't prosecute; there's very little fear of punishment. At least you live in the state that's leading the movement. Your Governor is wicked awesome, your laws are pro-2A, you can stand your ground and your LEO community feels appreciated.
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Several years ago someone tried to come into our home at 4:30am through a walk-out basement window. We were alerted when our alarm panel went off in our bedroom. I got up, turned on all the lights and chambered a round in my .45 and from the top of the stairs yelled that the police were on their way. The alarm company called within seconds and I confirmed they should dispatch. Then the officer arrived about 5 minutes later, I stowed my firearm and answered the door. We discovered the basement window had been jimmied open and there were tracks in the landscaping there. Pretty effing bold to do that with us home.

I credit having the system armed with preventing what could have been a much worse experience.
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There's a shooting/killing nearly every night here in central florida in the morning paper. Is that normal nowadays?

What goes on overnight that most of us sleeping are unaware of?

Do you think home alarms should be set every night?
Stupid people doing stupid shit. Sometimes it escalates.

Yes, set your alarm. Why have it if you don't use it?
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I don't have a home alarm but I want to get one. Been in my home 31 years this December. Nice, quiet neighborhood but bad shit happens everywhere.
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LA homeowner shoots, kills armed burglar after he and his wife hear footsteps overnight: deputies

The Los Angeles Sheriff's Department said a Walnut resident shot and killed an armed burglary suspect after he and his wife heard footsteps overnight.

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It will be interesting to see what happens (if anything) with the homeowner (shooter).

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I haven't read all 5,000 posts in this thread so apologies if it's been covered. I have a friend who is a County police officer 5 years from retirement. Due to all the insanity that has unfolded over the few years, it's become so risky to his retirement and personal reputation that he hasn't made a traffic stop in 2 years. Even wearing a body camera when making a stop, there is a fear that his administration will not support him if he has to protect himself. All of this defund the police nonsense and public scrutiny seems to have resulted in the streets being less safe than ever.

Any thoughts on this?
You are observing a culture shift where good cops no longer want to put themselves at risk and are choosing to preserve and safeguard their livelihood over the objective that made the large majority of us enter this profession in the first place (…e.g….taking bad guys to jail). When you don't feel supported, morale suffers. When morale suffers, you do the bare minimum or little to nothing at all. When you do the bare minimum, complacency sets in and you simply stop caring. When you stop caring, buoyed by laws that are too lax/pro-criminal, the community suffers as criminals run amuck. It has become a lawless free-for-all in every blue state/city in the union.
I witnessed this first hand last week.

I was in the loading dock at work which is in scummy downtown Seattle alley. Always reeks of piss and shit. Across from me on the other side of the alley was a doorway with some junkie zombie camped out. I see an SPD officer walking up the alley just as this guy pulls out his pipe. I'm thinking "we'll this should be interesting." No shit, the guy is actively holding the lighter under some tinfoil and sucking up the smoke though his glass pipe as the office walks past him. To my shock she asks him how he's doing and if he's OK, then continues on her merry way. WTF?!

I can't imagine how mentally beat down and unsupported you have to be as an officer to do that. It's crazy to me.
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I haven't read all 5,000 posts in this thread so apologies if it's been covered. I have a friend who is a County police officer 5 years from retirement. Due to all the insanity that has unfolded over the few years, it's become so risky to his retirement and personal reputation that he hasn't made a traffic stop in 2 years. Even wearing a body camera when making a stop, there is a fear that his administration will not support him if he has to protect himself. All of this defund the police nonsense and public scrutiny seems to have resulted in the streets being less safe than ever.

Any thoughts on this?
You are observing a culture shift where good cops no longer want to put themselves at risk and are choosing to preserve and safeguard their livelihood over the objective that made the large majority of us enter this profession in the first place (…e.g….taking bad guys to jail). When you don't feel supported, morale suffers. When morale suffers, you do the bare minimum or little to nothing at all. When you do the bare minimum, complacency sets in and you simply stop caring. When you stop caring, buoyed by laws that are too lax/pro-criminal, the community suffers as criminals run amuck. It has become a lawless free-for-all in every blue state/city in the union.
I witnessed this first hand last week.

I was in the loading dock at work which is in scummy downtown Seattle alley. Always reeks of piss and shit. Across from me on the other side of the alley was a doorway with some junkie zombie camped out. I see an SPD officer walking up the alley just as this guy pulls out his pipe. I'm thinking "we'll this should be interesting." No shit, the guy is actively holding the lighter under some tinfoil and sucking up the smoke though his glass pipe as the office walks past him. To my shock she asks him how he's doing and if he's OK, then continues on her merry way. WTF?!

I can't imagine how mentally beat down and unsupported you have to be as an officer to do that. It's crazy to me.
It's a pointless endeavor to arrest for meth/crack, especially when you have cities in my state handing out pipes and Narcan.
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Does the Sheriff's Department recommend any particular home alarm system?

How about you, Sedan_Clan? Which one do you think is best?
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It's a pointless endeavor to arrest for meth/crack, especially when you have cities in my state handing out pipes and Narcan.
Narcan I can understand. It can save lives. But pipes? They hand out drug paraphernalia? Man, that is nuts. What city is that if you don't mind me asking?
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Does the Sheriff's Department recommend any particular home alarm system?

How about you, Sedan_Clan? Which one do you think is best?
I don't have a preference personally, but any of the well known companies will do. Add some CCTV cameras and you're set.

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It's a pointless endeavor to arrest for meth/crack, especially when you have cities in my state handing out pipes and Narcan.
Narcan I can understand. It can save lives. But pipes? They hand out drug paraphernalia? Man, that is nuts. What city is that if you don't mind me asking?
https://nypost.com/2022/05/12/crack-...en-report/amp/

https://thenationaldesk.com/amp/news...ocaine-crystal

This one flew under the radar, so I'm not surprised you didn't hear about this when it was first revealed. Biden's administration later backtracked, but people weren't fooled. It's about as stupid as cities paying money to criminals in exchange for choosing not to murder/assault people (…as if that would truly be effective)….


….yet, that's what liberal politicians put in place in some liberal cities like San Francisco, California.

P.S. Seattle tried the crack pipe approach in 2015 too.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...0NZ11U20150514
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Just out of curiosity and because some movies or TV shows are triggering my question... If some cops are appearing to a person with drawn guns aiming at it and told them to lie down with face down and the person refuse it and is obviously unarmed; do you guys are really shot the person down or do you use a taser instead to a temp disable or what other options except of lethal force?
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I don't have a preference personally, but any of the well known companies will do. Add some CCTV cameras and you're set.



https://nypost.com/2022/05/12/crack-...en-report/amp/

https://thenationaldesk.com/amp/news...ocaine-crystal

This one flew under the radar, so I'm not surprised you didn't hear about this when it was first revealed. Biden's administration later backtracked, but people weren't fooled. It's about as stupid as cities paying money to criminals in exchange for choosing not to murder/assault people (…as if that would truly be effective)….


….yet, that's what liberal politicians put in place in some liberal cities like San Francisco, California.

P.S. Seattle tried the crack pipe approach in 2015 too.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...0NZ11U20150514
That is absolutely preposterous.

Reminds me of a joke I heard:

How to win the war on drugs in 2 easy steps:

Step 1: Legalize ALL drugs

Step 2: You have to go through Comcast customer service to get them

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That is absolutely preposterous.

Reminds me of a joke I heard:

How to win the war on drugs in 2 easy steps:

Step 1: Legalize ALL drugs

Step 2: You have to go through Comcast customer service to get them
Toronto has "safe injection sites", the crime rate is through the roof in the surrounding neighbourhoods, the folks that live there and some are in well off communities are pissed off, human waste everywhere, dirty needles everywhere, can't take their kids to the park or school yard. Street crime and drug dealing and what does the city want as the next step, decriminalize all drugs. What could possibly go wrong? I grew up and lived in Toronto for much of my life, I liked living in the city but I am so glad I'm a 2 1/2 hour drive away in the country now.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...rime-1.5232876
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Toronto has "safe injection sites", the crime rate is through the roof in the surrounding neighbourhoods, the folks that live there and some are in well off communities are pissed off, human waste everywhere, dirty needles everywhere, can't take their kids to the park or school yard. Street crime and drug dealing and what does the city want as the next step, decriminalize all drugs. What could possibly go wrong? I grew up and lived in Toronto for much of my life, I liked living in the city but I am so glad I'm a 2 1/2 hour drive away in the country now.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...rime-1.5232876
Damn - I wasn't aware things were that bad in Toronto.
I recall Vancouver trying that safe injection site (nonsense, I call it) - with the same issues - crime up, needle litter etc.
What's that definition of madness again - doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result...
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Damn - I wasn't aware things were that bad in Toronto.
I recall Vancouver trying that safe injection site (nonsense, I call it) - with the same issues - crime up, needle litter etc.
What's that definition of madness again - doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result...
Toronto has been going down this path for a very long time, it just seems to be picking up speed in it's race to absurdity.
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I believe you. You and Sedan_Clan see the entire spectrum of human behaviour.
Apparently now violent car-jackings are 'normal' too - saw that news item about some hockey player kid getting his range rover stolen.

PS: Not trying to suck up, just genuine appreciation this morning from north of Toronto where I accept my limitations on dealing with people (as I try to move about on 2 hours of sleep, and coffee) - which in turn makes me appreciate how you folks deal with that shit day in and day out, while being berated by the populace etc (saw that post above about the SPD)
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We've got 3 - 4 shootings a week here (lot's of gunplay), insane lawlessness, a constant parade of dodge chargers with no muffler blaring rap, car jackings, etc, but jeez, a government mandated junkie free for all zone? Man, that is crazy!
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