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      02-17-2022, 07:20 PM   #5369
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Articulation is everything. There's no permit required to own the taser and if you needed to use it, just be able to articulate why you used it.





Keep your car doors locked. You'd be surprised how many people drive around with unlocked doors. Secondly, keep bear spray and a knife with you.
My doors are always locked! I always know my surroundings. I don’t sit in the car in a lot la de da and clueless. I’ve been swarmed on the highway where I thought it was a block me in accident set up thing. I’m not comfortable with a knife or any weapon I’m not good with that could be used against me. I guess I’ll get some spray.
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Articulation is everything. There's no permit required to own the taser and if you needed to use it, just be able to articulate why you used it.





Keep your car doors locked. You'd be surprised how many people drive around with unlocked doors. Secondly, keep bear spray and a knife with you.
My doors are always locked! I always know my surroundings. I don't sit in the car in a lot la de da and clueless. I've been swarmed on the highway where I thought it was a block me in accident set up thing. I'm not comfortable with a knife or any weapon I'm not good with that could be used against me. I guess I'll get some spray.
Be mindful of how spray will affect you as well, especially considering you'll be spraying outside and be subjected to wind shifts. There's always blowback!
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I should look into the legality of tasers here.
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Articulation is everything. There's no permit required to own the taser and if you needed to use it, just be able to articulate why you used it.
In New York State, NYS Penal Code § 265.01 (heh, heh, heh, he said PENAL) says it's illegal to possess an electronic dart gun, stun gun, many types of knives, clubs, and even Kung-Fu throwing stars. I didn't look at NYC's laws, but can't imagine that they would be any more permissive than the state's laws when NYC doesn't even honor the state's pistol permits.

Bears are seriously a major problem in many parts of NY State due to restrictions in hunting them. I always recommend carrying a can or ten if you travel in NYC or live in one of the counties where obtaining an unrestricted CCW permit is difficult/impossible.....
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Hey Sedan, I don't know when it is due to arrive, but I hope your Porsche isn't on the ship that's on fire!
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Hey Sedan, I don't know when it is due to arrive, but I hope your Porsche isn't on the ship that's on fire!
No, mine is at the port in Emden awaiting a west coast vessel. The Felicity Ace was carrying Porsches bound for the east coast.
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Divided road. School bus stopped on other side. Lights flashing but no stop sign deployed. Do I have to wait?
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      02-19-2022, 01:52 AM   #5375
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Divided road. School bus stopped on other side. Lights flashing but no stop sign deployed. Do I have to wait?
Divided road as in opposing directions of travel? You would need to stop.
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      02-19-2022, 01:56 AM   #5376
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Divided road. School bus stopped on other side. Lights flashing but no stop sign deployed. Do I have to wait?
Divided road as in opposing directions of travel? You would need to stop.
So I don't have to yield to emergency lights, but I gotta let some snot-nosed kid wander off the bus with his face in a phone???
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      02-19-2022, 01:57 AM   #5377
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Divided road. School bus stopped on other side. Lights flashing but no stop sign deployed. Do I have to wait?
Divided road as in opposing directions of travel? You would need to stop.
So I don't have to yield to emergency lights, but I gotta let some snot-nosed kid wander off the bus with his face in a phone???
22454 CVC requires that all traffic yield.
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So I don't have to yield to emergency lights, but I gotta let some snot-nosed kid wander off the bus with his face in a phone???
NY State VTL says that you must stop for a school bus flashing red lights even on a divided highway with a concrete barrier/fence/median between the opposing travel lanes.

As for the snot-nosed kids, our school busses stop at every single house and leave the lights flashing for five minutes waiting for each kid to stumble out of their house and out to the curb. Heaven forbid that they get hypothermia standing at the curb for a few minutes on a frigid 45 F morning!

This belongs more in the old farts thread, but my school bus stop back in the day was a five block walk from our house. If nobody was standing there to be picked up, the bus driver wouldn't even slow down as they passed! Then, there was the humiliation of having to walk five blocks home, and ask your parents to drive you to school because you were not responsible enough to make it to the bus stop on time...and then having all of the kids who were on the bus laughing at you getting out of mommy's car when you finally got to the school.....
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Oh, and most of the school busses around here are equipped with cameras specifically to catch drivers passing them while flashing red so that tickets can be mailed.....
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We're you standing in Newport overnight?
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We're you standing in Newport overnight?
I was comfy on my couch playing "Horizon: Forbidden West" on PS5. That game is BEAUTIFUL BTW.
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Be mindful of how spray will affect you as well, especially considering you'll be spraying outside and be subjected to wind shifts. There's always blowback!
My experience with OC on passively resistant subjects is that it works great on Coppers.
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...When officers arrived, the man did not cooperate and had to be removed from the vehicle, the police said.

However, as they were taking Mr Johnson into custody, an officer noticed “a firearm coming outside the vehicle”. The officer, who was able to deflect the weapon by swiping the gun to the side as it fired into a restaurant awning, yelled “kid” to his colleagues.

The child was sitting in the back seat with his three-year-old sibling and had been “encouraged” to fire the gun by their father, police said.

The officer sustained a minor injury to his arm.

Calling it a sad day for the community, Sheriff Rosie Rivera said: “To have an adult think it is OK to encourage a four-year-old to pull a firearm and shoot at police illustrates how out of hand the campaign against police has gotten.”

She added: “This is a child who thought it was okay to pull a firearm and shoot that firearm at police. I’ve never seen anything like this in my 28 years.”
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22454 CVC requires that all traffic yield.
Ummm...

https://california.public.law/codes/..._section_22454

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b. (1)The driver of a vehicle upon a divided highway or multiple-lane highway need not stop upon meeting or passing a school bus that is upon the other roadway.

2.For the purposes of this subdivision, a multiple-lane highway is any highway that has two or more lanes of travel in each direction.
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22454 CVC requires that all traffic yield.
Ummm...

https://california.public.law/codes/..._section_22454

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b. (1)The driver of a vehicle upon a divided highway or multiple-lane highway need not stop upon meeting or passing a school bus that is upon the other roadway.

2.For the purposes of this subdivision, a multiple-lane highway is any highway that has two or more lanes of travel in each direction.
You completely glossed over SUBSECTION (a) and went straight to (b)(1) where it talks about divided highways and multi-lane highways. Subsection (a) is where your school zones will be. Remember I asked a follow-up question to better understand what he was asking (…and what he meant by "divided"; the vehicle code's definition and a person's definition likely/usually differ). A divided roadway and a divided highway are two different things, and division usually refers to some sort of median or defined delineation. Most school zones have no delineation for opposing directions of travel and generally have no medians (…hence the reason for the vehicle code). If there's potential that a child could run into your path of travel, you need to stop. Thanks for playing though!


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(a) The driver of any vehicle, upon meeting or overtaking, from either direction, any schoolbus equipped with signs as required in this code, that is stopped for the purpose of loading or unloading any schoolchildren and displays a flashing red light signal and stop signal arm, as defined in paragraph (4) of subdivision (b) of Section 25257, if equipped with a stop signal arm, visible from front or rear, shall bring the vehicle to a stop immediately before passing the schoolbus and shall not proceed past the schoolbus until the flashing red light signal and stop signal arm, if equipped with a stop signal arm, cease operation.
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I'm pretty sure we're in agreement. I may have misunderstood your initial response.
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Did the rules change: I see SO many vehicles parked on the corner of residential streets.
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I'm pretty sure we're in agreement. I may have misunderstood your initial response.
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Did the rules change: I see SO many vehicles parked on the corner of residential streets.
The laws didn't change, but the rules definitely have. Parking enforcement and/or local LEO's just don't enforce it…….

….much in the same way the violation of parking too close to [or in front of a fire hydrant] isn't really enforced much.
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