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      08-09-2018, 02:28 PM   #287
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YAWN!

Have we found ANY collusion
YET?????

Wake me up when theres something LEGIT
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      08-09-2018, 02:29 PM   #288
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Sounds good to me, if Manafort and Gates are guilty as charged burn the scum.
I say If convicted they'll get country club time 7-15 for fraud and tax evasion with TOFGB.
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YAWN!

Have we found ANY collusion
YET?????

Wake me up when theres something LEGIT
Stop opening this thread, then?
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      08-09-2018, 02:30 PM   #290
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YAWN!

Have we found ANY collusion
YET?????

Wake me up when theres something LEGIT
Its much more than collusion...
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      08-09-2018, 02:33 PM   #291
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Indictments and guilty pleas - in cases that have nothing to do with the election.

There's nothing here - still nothing.

Mueller needs to put up or shut up - he needs to be regulated by someone
Mueller hasn't said word one...seriously, he needs to be regulated!
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I say If convicted they'll get country club time 7-15 for fraud and tax evasion with TOFGB.
I hope not, justice needs to be blind and punishment equally given out.

My biggest problem with Trump is he does appear to have some really shitty people surrounding him in various ways. I guess you can't get to the point he does without them, but it's quite disheartening.
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YAWN!

Have we found ANY collusion
YET?????

Wake me up when theres something LEGIT
First, let's call is "conspiracy" which is the legal term. "Collusion" is just a word Trump likes to tweet and has no legal value.

Second, please define when you would like us to wake you up:

1) Proven conspiracy between any US citizen and the Russians to influence our elections.

2) Proven conspiracy between members of Trump's campaign and the Russians to influence our elections.

3) Proven conspiracy between members of Trump's family and the Russians to influence our elections.

4) Proven conspiracy between Trump and the Russians to influence our elections.
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Sorry - my question was rhetorical.

I don't think it's acceptable for the American public to be expected to give Mueller over a year to conduct his investigation, with no evidence, no measurement, and no accountability. We need some sort of blue dress at this point - something that shows an indication of progress; else it's just a witch hunt, distraction, and enabling of the #resist crowd - none of which is legitimate.
I think it would be safe to say that many citizens don't like the "not knowing". Other's believe it is a witch hunt. Me, I believe its necessary because if crimes were committed by any in the orbit of the president they must be held accountable.

Its not unusual for investigations to go on for years. No statute of limitations exists for the investigation by special councils. For example:

Iran-contra: 6 years, 8 months (1986-1993)

Samuel Pierce, HUD corruption: 9 years (1990-1999)

George H.W. Bush administration, improper search of passport records: 3 years (1992-1995)

Henry Cisneros, mistress payments: 11 years (1995-2006)

Mike Espy, gifts from agriculture company: 6 years (1994-2001)

Bill and Hillary Clinton, Whitewater: 6 years 8 months (1994-2000)

Lewis “Scooter” Libby, CIA leak: 3½ years (2003-2007)

Source: WP https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/05/17/no-the-mueller-investigation-hasnt-gone-on-too-long/?utm_term=.feb16dd52ead.

Check out the link. Its pretty good.
I hadn't looked at it from this perspective- you raise a good point.
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Indictments and guilty pleas - in cases that have nothing to do with the election.

There's nothing here - still nothing.

Mueller needs to put up or shut up - he needs to be regulated by someone
Pretty sure you're wumming with the "there's nothing here" argument now..
"Wumming?"
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"Wumming?"
The verb form of WUM (Wind-Up Merchant), a predominantly online phenomena of espousing contrary viewpoints purely to string people along and get a reaction from others. A mild-mannered form of trolling.
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The verb form of WUM (Wind-Up Merchant), a predominantly online phenomena of espousing contrary viewpoints purely to string people along and get a reaction from others. A mild-mannered form of trolling.
Learned something new today....


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The verb form of WUM (Wind-Up Merchant), a predominantly online phenomena of espousing contrary viewpoints purely to string people along and get a reaction from others. A mild-mannered form of trolling.
I thought it meant wind-up muppet, so it seems I also learned something.
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First, let's call is "conspiracy" which is the legal term. "Collusion" is just a word Trump likes to tweet and has no legal value.

Second, please define when you would like us to wake you up:

1) Proven conspiracy between any US citizen and the Russians to influence our elections.

2) Proven conspiracy between members of Trump's campaign and the Russians to influence our elections.

3) Proven conspiracy between members of Trump's family and the Russians to influence our elections.

4) Proven conspiracy between Trump and the Russians to influence our elections.
2) please. well... 2, 3 and 4 are related. But 2) is the one that the Muellar
investigation was started for.
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Stop opening this thread, then?
still waitin on treasonous collusion...
still..
waitin..
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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I hadn't looked at it from this perspective- you raise a good point.
Yeah, but the longer it goes and they keep coming up empty. It starts to look pretty bad for blue party.
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still waitin on treasonous collusion...
still..
waitin..
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
They will have a breakthrough tomorrow. be patient...
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A bump, for those that seem to have forgotten what this is all about (Hint: its not all about Trump).
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They will have a breakthrough tomorrow. be patient...
I think they've finally found bigfoot.. (FBI says he stomped out Hillary's servers before they could investigate)

but yet still no treasonous collusion.. to be found
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Yeah, but the longer it goes and they keep coming up empty. It starts to look pretty bad for blue party.
We don't really know how empty it is--you would think if it comes down to charges against Trump they will want to have every little bit of evidence un-covered including what happens in the Manafort trial.

Or, there could be an ulterior motive of keeping a dark cloud over Trump for nearly his entire first term..if they do come up empty.

But remember how long Watergate lasted? Either there is something there or this was a drawn out investigation.
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We don't really know how empty it is--you would think if it comes down to charges against Trump they will want to have every little bit of evidence un-covered including what happens in the Manafort trial.

Or, there could be an ulterior motive of keeping a dark cloud over Trump for nearly his entire first term..if they do come up empty.

But remember how long Watergate lasted? Either there is something there or this was a drawn out investigation.
You may be right, but if poll people about this. The Russia investigation gets very low numbers. Not many people care anymore about it.
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You may be right, but if poll people about this. The Russia investigation gets very low numbers. Not many people care anymore about it.
maybe just maybe because.. its wasting a bit of our tax dollars?
just a bit?
how much an hour does Mueller Ferris Bueller make anyway
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Apparently Bill Nelson knows something the rest of the US government does not..

Bill Nelson: The Russians have penetrated some Florida voter registration systems


https://www.tampabay.com/florida-pol...ction-systems/
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