New Ytest
Sign out
Bimmerpost
Login
BMW E39 5-Series Forum | 5Post.com
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read  
Go Back   BMW E39 5-Series Forum | 5Post.com > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Off-Topic Discussions Board

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-04-2010, 02:09 PM   #287
bolinp78
G35 convertee
bolinp78's Avatar
69
Rep
1,009
Posts

 
Drives: 2008 335i (AW)
Join Date: May 2008
Location: .

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ForAll View Post
Thanks for the finance lesson. I am well aware of trading and all the risks involved. I agree that you do need to "fully grasp what you are getting into". Paper gains/losses are part of the risk. I don't think the OP would be investing $4k if you could not afford to lose it all. Making money, no matter how you do it is a risk. "It takes money to make money"
I know what I was saying was basic, but you'd be surprised at what some people on this board don't know (at least gathering from what people say from time to time).
__________________
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2010, 02:22 PM   #288
MJC///M3
Colonel
MJC///M3's Avatar
United_States
87
Rep
2,324
Posts

 
Drives: 09 SSII E92 M3
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bronx, NYC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diokaef View Post
I'm just curios about other peoples opinions, I have made my decision upon experience and facts (not only mine). this time was more like ganble a little bit, I'm really not loking for advice, I pay people to do that.

And long term does not means I will not trade my shares when I think is the right time.

Loking for opinions if this had ever happen to you?
Or do you belive this could really make that much (25x)?

Honestly I would be pleased with a 20% return on this market.
25x is a huge return bro. I sincerely doubt you will make that trading straight equities....unless you can lever up substantially. Might throw in some options here and there....that can help....but I'd say you'd have to catch a penny stock to make that kind of dough with 4K.

I think in these times, capital preservation is more important than appreciation. Obviously there is alot of money to be made when the market falls, but for the average retail investor who does not have the tools to engage in advanced and exotic derivatives to hedge their positions, making 25x return is a tough task. It can be done, and has been done, but these cases are few and far in between.

As frightful as it is to watch the markets these days, (DOW down almost 3% today, Eur crossed 1.20), there are always opportunities to invest and make some money. The trick is knowing when to pull the trigger. I personally like ETF's for the time being....and I use them to hedge my overall single name positions.
__________________
"You will get there, but it is up to you and you alone. It is what you are willing to do, and how you are willing to get there. You must be relentless, you must be tireless, you must pursue at all costs, so that you are ready, when the time is right." -Dad
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2010, 02:28 PM   #289
SantaPimp27
Lieutenant
SantaPimp27's Avatar
United_States
36
Rep
412
Posts

 
Drives: Slow homie
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Jersey

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
Except the fact that he claims he is using non public information so he already admitted online it is insider trading.

You always seem to give really bad advice.

I would personally say, given the fact you claimed you have inside info, it is not worth the risk.
Hence the first line, "if $4K is not a big deal to you." If he thinks he can make money, than he should do it. Thats what the stock market is all about. I know plenty of people where $4K isnt a big deal.

Dont see how thats bad advice
__________________
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2010, 06:59 PM   #290
shuarma
Banned
87
Rep
718
Posts

 
Drives: AW e92
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: NY

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by samwoo2go View Post
My family made a little over a million a couple years back on 30K investment on a penny stock pharmaceutical company that a family friend worked for and it was supposedly on the verge of coming out with a "cure" for cancer.
LOL

but hey at least your family made a lot back. your family probably was wealthy to begin with if they had 30g's to put at stake
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2010, 08:51 PM   #291
Bmoney2K4
Captain
185
Rep
885
Posts

 
Drives: 2016 535i
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Los Angeles, California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diokaef View Post
I have my conservative stocks, this is more like a big chance, and I would not like to loose the chance. remember when Apple was like 95$ and today is $263.12?
Wow, when was this? That is insane. You could retire with that increase...
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2010, 08:55 PM   #292
mpimping
Banned
South Korea
817
Rep
336
Posts

 
Drives: gti
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: ny,ny

iTrader: (0)

If you followed my advice you would have made money.
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2010, 09:13 PM   #293
fdsasdasdf
Captain
fdsasdasdf's Avatar
125
Rep
778
Posts

 
Drives: 330Ci ZHP 6sp
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Raleigh, NC

iTrader: (0)

Inverse euro ETFs are nice right now, but be weary since the Euro may be hitting its low point soon. Or..it could go even lower.
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2010, 09:19 PM   #294
samwoo2go
Banned
442
Rep
779
Posts

 
Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (12)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zell View Post
Inverse euro ETFs are nice right now, but be weary since the Euro may be hitting its low point soon. Or..it could go even lower.
lol that's like not saying shit
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2010, 10:29 PM   #295
mpimping
Banned
South Korea
817
Rep
336
Posts

 
Drives: gti
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: ny,ny

iTrader: (0)

i would dump my position at 1~1
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2010, 10:10 PM   #296
gnhm3
Lieutenant Colonel
gnhm3's Avatar
219
Rep
1,804
Posts

 
Drives: F82 M4 / F87 M2
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West LA

iTrader: (19)

Stock Market Thread

I thought it would be interesting to see how many people on here are into stocks and constantly do trades. I tried searching and couldn't find anything so forgive me if this is a repost. I also thought it would be helpful to list stocks that you think could be on the rise. I used to trade 2 years ago but stopped and would like to get back into it.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2010, 10:25 PM   #297
BTM
Banned
United_States
479
Rep
10,309
Posts

 
Drives: A///MERICAN!!!
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: A///MERICA!!!

iTrader: (11)

Garage List
There are a few traders on here that I have been in contact with but would never expect anyone to offer up their trades for free.
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2010, 10:34 PM   #298
bmwmthree
Captain
bmwmthree's Avatar
113
Rep
695
Posts

 
Drives: bmw
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: so cal

iTrader: (8)

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvMyRide View Post
And BMWM3 ..I will be filing a harrasment suit against you and/or charges. See you in court very very soon. Thanks.. Have fun with your nonsense.
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2010, 10:38 PM   #299
JayKay335i
Banned
Egypt
189
Rep
5,046
Posts

 
Drives: ///M323 DCT
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: North Dakota; its best DUHHHHHH

iTrader: (1)

I dabble. But as stated above, what makes me cash is my business.
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2010, 10:44 PM   #300
ES_TRADER
Colonel
344
Rep
2,928
Posts

 
Drives: 328i, 335i, M3, 535i, X5, 36M
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: OC

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2014 Ford Raptor  [0.00]
2012 328i E92  [10.00]
2013 X5  [0.00]
2013 335i F30  [8.00]
1990 Toyota Previa  [0.00]
1997 E36 M3  [10.00]
2011 E92 M3  [0.00]
2011 535i  [0.00]
i run a private hedge fund...we day-trade commodity and index futures for clients, alongside with position trading in equities, options and fixed income (goveys, inves grade and junk)....the whole shebang!
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2010, 10:50 PM   #301
bmwmthree
Captain
bmwmthree's Avatar
113
Rep
695
Posts

 
Drives: bmw
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: so cal

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by richpuer View Post
i run a private hedge fund...we day-trade commodity and index futures for clients, alongside with position trading in equities, options and fixed income (goveys, inves grade and junk)....the whole shebang!
How's business? (serious question)
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvMyRide View Post
And BMWM3 ..I will be filing a harrasment suit against you and/or charges. See you in court very very soon. Thanks.. Have fun with your nonsense.
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2010, 11:06 PM   #302
ES_TRADER
Colonel
344
Rep
2,928
Posts

 
Drives: 328i, 335i, M3, 535i, X5, 36M
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: OC

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2014 Ford Raptor  [0.00]
2012 328i E92  [10.00]
2013 X5  [0.00]
2013 335i F30  [8.00]
1990 Toyota Previa  [0.00]
1997 E36 M3  [10.00]
2011 E92 M3  [0.00]
2011 535i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmwmthree View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by richpuer View Post
i run a private hedge fund...we day-trade commodity and index futures for clients, alongside with position trading in equities, options and fixed income (goveys, inves grade and junk)....the whole shebang!
How's business? (serious question)
Business is Excellent! And has always been. I am very fortunate.. Seriously though, I can't complain. Neither can our clients.
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2010, 11:10 PM   #303
bmwmthree
Captain
bmwmthree's Avatar
113
Rep
695
Posts

 
Drives: bmw
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: so cal

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by richpuer View Post
Business is Excellent! And has always been. I am very fortunate.. Seriously though, I can't complain. Neither can our clients.
Nice to hear. I guess that also means you're actually good at your job.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvMyRide View Post
And BMWM3 ..I will be filing a harrasment suit against you and/or charges. See you in court very very soon. Thanks.. Have fun with your nonsense.
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2010, 12:33 AM   #304
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Lieutenant
United_States
108
Rep
465
Posts

 
Drives: 1
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: 2

iTrader: (0)

you didn't search, admit it. I hate when people say I've searched but didn't see anything. There are countless stock threads if you type in "stocks" into the search.
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2010, 12:39 AM   #305
gnhm3
Lieutenant Colonel
gnhm3's Avatar
219
Rep
1,804
Posts

 
Drives: F82 M4 / F87 M2
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West LA

iTrader: (19)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BTM View Post
There are a few traders on here that I have been in contact with but would never expect anyone to offer up their trades for free.
I think this thread would better be suited for the more inexperienced traders who would like advice from each other and give their insight on their research. I wouldn't expect any pros to come here and make us rich.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ferrari355fi View Post
you didn't search, admit it. I hate when people say I've searched but didn't see anything. There are countless stock threads if you type in "stocks" into the search.
I actually did search. I typed in stocks and stock market and couldn't find anything on the first couple of pages. I hate when people post useless bs in threads.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2010, 02:16 AM   #306
Minefield
Colonel
44
Rep
2,730
Posts

 
Drives: Car
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Location

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gnhm3 View Post
I thought it would be interesting to see how many people on here are into stocks and constantly do trades. I tried searching and couldn't find anything so forgive me if this is a repost. I also thought it would be helpful to list stocks that you think could be on the rise. I used to trade 2 years ago but stopped and would like to get back into it.
this is not how capitalism works...
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2010, 08:45 AM   #307
BTM
Banned
United_States
479
Rep
10,309
Posts

 
Drives: A///MERICAN!!!
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: A///MERICA!!!

iTrader: (11)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by gnhm3 View Post
I think this thread would better be suited for the more inexperienced traders who would like advice from each other and give their insight on their research. I wouldn't expect any pros to come here and make us rich.
LOL well in that case I am still chiding my dad for not lending me money to put in Ford...I was in school and poor

He said get your degree and then you can lose all your own money in the market...
Appreciate 0
      11-18-2010, 09:03 AM   #308
MJC///M3
Colonel
MJC///M3's Avatar
United_States
87
Rep
2,324
Posts

 
Drives: 09 SSII E92 M3
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bronx, NYC

iTrader: (0)

anyone jump on the GM bandwagon? up 7% from initial IPO level.

I trade everday.....mostly in and out of ETF's (no restrictions/ holding periods). Got a nice little trading robot that dictates which sector spdrs to buy based on a few variables.
__________________
"You will get there, but it is up to you and you alone. It is what you are willing to do, and how you are willing to get there. You must be relentless, you must be tireless, you must pursue at all costs, so that you are ready, when the time is right." -Dad
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:08 AM.




5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST