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Hmm... How many drink driving deaths each year in the UK? Need to get rid of those cars...
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Sadly it's too many, I haven't looked it up, but probably similar figures for drunk driving deaths as to what you have there, but.. people NEED CARS to get to work, you don't need a gun for that
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Agreed on the need for cars but the point is the it is not the car that causes the accident, it's the stupid human behind the wheel. It is not the gun that causes the accident, it is the stupid human who doesn't properly secure the gun. Based on that logic, cars should be banned because they are used to kill people...
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Not actually lying around have 1 plant gun hidden. Rest are locked or on person
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Fingers are not designed to hurt/kill, whereas guns are. As I said in previous post, I know it won't be easy, but something should be done. I know that over there guns are EVERYWHERE but there needs to be something done to reduce the number. What will it take? I don't know, it seems to me that shootings are so commonplace that the general public (if unaffected by the particular incident) seem not to care enough to do anything about it. There have been way way too many needless unnecessary deaths due to firearms for my liking, maybe you don't care either? |
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Is transportation needed, yes. Are guns truly needed other than for hunting etc, no. But it is our right here in the US and again, it is not the gun which is the issue, it is the human using it just as it is the human using the car to kill people. If we really wanted to reduce drink driving deaths there are measures we should take. So let's start putting breathalyzers on every vehicle so that only sober people can drive them. Or ban cars after 8 PM when the likelihood of drinking and driving increases dramatically. I could keep going, limiting the use of cars all in the name of reducing drink driving deaths. Where does it stop? All in the name of reducing deaths.
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So I expect you'll be turning in your guns to the local police department tomorrow?
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Ouch Tom. Not my fight here but, that's probably a little harsh to think that another member would feel that way. I don't see where it gets the conversation to a place that people can see each other's views.
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Um no. I think the terrorists in Paris used, wait for it, AK47s? Multiple times? How about the 2 million crimes foiled annually by legal gun owners. How many innocent lives did those instances save. Confiscating guns in Austrailia, what happened? More gun violence. Number one murder weapon in England is now kitchen knives. The Brits contemplated confiscating those too. What's next, hammers? Typical ignorant argument.
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