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      04-19-2023, 01:58 PM   #6975
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308 AR10 20" Barrel 15" Handguard with Scope no Mag - 9.7lbs
6.5CM AR10 22" Barrel 15" Handguard with Scope & Bipod no Mag - 11.4lbs

The 308 has a $700 JP low mass BCG, both are all Aero HG, Lower, Upper. I am very interested to know the cost of a 7lb build, CF barrel, etc I would guess $3k+.
I would guess around 2-3k too all said and done, also depends how light you want to go and aesthetics . A Faxon pencil barrel, Faxon BCG, and carbon fiber hand guard should take a fair amount of weight off. Here is a list a guy made, not horrible prices: https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/...e.48147/page-2

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.ph...0-ever.822282/ <-- Claims all the way down to 4.5 lbs...

https://pof-usa.com/firearm/revolution/ <-- I don't think I like all the Ar15 parts and it is 7.3lbs which is not exactly light for what they are charging.

Here is a 4lber rather fugly to me:



https://www.shootingillustrated.com/...0-on-a-budget/ 6.6lbs for $1338.85 is not bad...

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      04-19-2023, 07:32 PM   #6976
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I would guess around 2-3k too all said and done, also depends how light you want to go and aesthetics . A Faxon pencil barrel, Faxon BCG, and carbon fiber hand guard should take a fair amount of weight off. Here is a list a guy made, not horrible prices: https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/...e.48147/page-2

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.ph...0-ever.822282/ <-- Claims all the way down to 4.5 lbs...

https://pof-usa.com/firearm/revolution/ <-- I don't think I like all the Ar15 parts and it is 7.3lbs which is not exactly light for what they are charging.

Here is a 4lber rather fugly to me:



https://www.shootingillustrated.com/...0-on-a-budget/ 6.6lbs for $1338.85 is not bad...
I love FAXON products.
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      04-20-2023, 07:06 AM   #6977
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I love FAXON products.
Me too! I have their ultra light weight ar15 upper on my preban pwa commando lower. Nice and light. Their pencil barrels shave off a ton of weight.
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      04-20-2023, 10:21 AM   #6978
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I should really weigh this....
The kids love it though. Super easy for them and one-handed operation for adults if desired.
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      04-21-2023, 09:05 AM   #6979
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I've got a poly lower AR that weighs just over 5lb without any crazy hardware.

Debraced my mp5k to comply with the dog shooting bastards new rule. It's fine, slings work the same, just opposite and it's even more compact, so suck it.
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      04-21-2023, 11:45 AM   #6980
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I did not think it an lvpo would add so much. Good to know.

I have considered hunting with just a red dot.

However I think a red dot + magnifier would be as much weight as a lvpo right?

I don't think I would want to shoot at 100 yards with a red dot only and no magnifier for a white tail.
Just looked it up, just my Viper PST is 22.7 Oz, but then add for a mount, so..

Just find a light weight scope and rings. you can do a light weight build, just have to do some research.

As for using a red dot at 100, remember, a lot of game was taken with just iron sights. I've shot M1 Garands at 200 yards just using the stock iron sites in a few matches.

I'm not suggesting a dot or irons, just food for thought.
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      04-23-2023, 10:32 AM   #6981
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4.1lb

https://www.crownprecisionarms.com/the-elite-ar-10/

For that price it better be the cheapest. That is insanely light.
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My free sbr from a braced ar-pistol submitted on 01/17 got approved today 04/28.
submitted on eform 1 as an individual with paper prints mailed in.

Waiting on one submitted as a trust with paper prints mailed in from 02/16.
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Nice, I might only do 1 freebie and just do the rest regular $200 on the trust as originally planned before the stupid brace thing, after it's revoked. Thought about trying freebies on my trust w/o notarized but not worth the risk/hassle. Don't feel like giving the ATF anything until my cans are approved, 264 days and counting.

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My free sbr from a braced ar-pistol submitted on 01/17 got approved today 04/28.
submitted on eform 1 as an individual with paper prints mailed in.

Waiting on one submitted as a trust with paper prints mailed in from 02/16.
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the trust braced sbr will be #23. i did buy a suppressor last month and filed as an individual which will be stamp #24.
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I said hell with it and put in for the tax free sbr deal. I only have one gun with a brace, and have always wanted a legit stock on it as I can’t quite shoulder it perfectly with the brace. To me it’s really a win win as I can get the stock I want and they can stick their $200 for a stamp. They already have me on file anyway for my suppressors so this doesn’t change anything. I went through Silencer Shop for ease, $50 charge. I’ll get a nice buffer tube/adjustable Magpul stock on it when it clears.

I actually put in a long time ago for this to be registered as an sbr, but the paperwork got screwed up (actually was mistakenly never sent in). I guess it’s fate I’m actually being forced to now hah.
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There are some really nice rifles posted on these last few pages. It makes me want to go build a new AR. I want an MP5 or MPX though!!!
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There are some really nice rifles posted on these last few pages. It makes me want to go build a new AR. I want an MP5 or MPX though!!!
There is no substitute.

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Didn't your governor just ban all those?
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Didn't your governor just ban all those?
Well.. The House and Senate did vote for HB 1240 which was signed by itslee. The bill was an assault weapons bill and more. It banned all styles of semi auto firearms by characteristics. It also banned firearms with threaded barrels and some shotguns. They said it wasn't suppose to effect handguns.. but guess what, you can't buy threaded handguns. I fought this the best I could by making easy to message senators and house representatives.. but of course the liberals don't care.

Now back to your original question.. No he didn't ban all of these since majority of these have the fun switch. Only the handgun with the suppressor would have been banned. I built the Suomi and VZ61 on a Form 2.
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My favorite gun right now is the sig p365. It’s amazing how compact it is and yet totally shootable.

Literally the perfect edc.
I bought one for every family member.

I also got a rattler last year but have yet to shoot it. Still need to get a can for it, but I waited over a year for that one.

I have so many glocks I forget them all.
For real though. They are just stashed all over the place.

Next up is a DD ar-15 but idk which one I want. I like the shorter barrel lengths but I’m thinking it will probably overlap with the rattler to do so.
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Didn't your governor just ban all those?
That is correct. Personally, I got four or so in under the wire. That LWRC is one of them. I already had the can, stock, extra scope and light so all I had to do was throw them on. Waiting for some sun to sight it in. Part of the ban includes importing parts and assembling an "assault rifle."

As I understand it, we now have a higher level of ban than California does. After they came for the guns, and magazines, what was next? I hear down in California you have to have large quantities of ammo sent to an FFL and pick it up there?

They also put through a state permit to buy a firearm. You have to take a class, demonstrate you can safely operate a firearm, and pass a background check. The permit is good for five years.

Seems like they are following this play book state by state around the nation. Besides ammo restrictions what else will we see in the future?
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That is correct. Personally, I got four or so in under the wire. That LWRC is one of them. I already had the can, stock, extra scope and light so all I had to do was throw them on. Waiting for some sun to sight it in. Part of the ban includes importing parts and assembling an "assault rifle."

As I understand it, we now have a higher level of ban than California does. After they came for the guns, and magazines, what was next? I hear down in California you have to have large quantities of ammo sent to an FFL and pick it up there?

They also put through a state permit to buy a firearm. You have to take a class, demonstrate you can safely operate a firearm, and pass a background check. The permit is good for five years.

Seems like they are following this play book state by state around the nation. Besides ammo restrictions what else will we see in the future?
Nice collection. Condolences on living in a state that violates your 2nd A rights. I feel for my fellow enthusiasts in those states.
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MP5s are great but there's no market left for transferable select fire ones. My dealer just got 5 in from a PD and he made more money on them by destroying whatever part needed destroying and parting out the rest. He got on average $700 a stock.

I tried to convince my chief to get one but he said no, just buy another rifle for the SRO.
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We'll it only took what 6 months for the IL ban to be canceled, should be quicker to reverse the WA one.

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