What is launch control??

335Mat · 05-03-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Nice thread Terry Burger...

this one 'almost' had some technical discussion in it...

I think Vish answered the question, no?

335Mat · 05-03-2007, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCal335i

Im just gonna start changing the Sig pic everyday.

j/k. I dont care who puts my car in their sig, its still my car in the end

It was a joke, SoCal. You missed my post here http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=41

But I am going to be one step ahead of you now, and the picture that you planing to post tomorrow, I will post today.

Everybody without a sig, put SoCal pic in their sig. :rocks:

This thread is the funniest I have ever read on this forum. Go Terry!

Sparta32 · 05-03-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CoralRedPlz

ban sparta plz.

Coral Red Plz is obviosly a hippie hired by Active Autowork to try to stop people like me from spreading the truth. I recently traveled to Southern Florida to Active Autowork's head quarters. Active Autowork employee Omar claimed he had to "leave on a business trip". Something, however did not feel right. I followed him for hours until we arrived here http://www.jetro.go.jp/canada/images/canada.jpg. I then took some astonishing photos of Omar which can be seen here http://media.urbandictionary.com/ima...ppie-48540.jpg. I know the truth is very shocking but we must spread the truth!

335Mat · 05-03-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparta32

Coral Red Plz is obviosly a hippie hired by Active Autowork to try to stop people like me from spreading the truth. I recently traveled to Southern Florida to Active Autowork's head quarters. Active Autowork employee Omar claimed he had to "leave on a business trip". Something, however did not feel right. I followed him for hours until we arrived here http://www.jetro.go.jp/canada/images/canada.jpg. I then took some astonishing photos of Omar which can be seen here http://media.urbandictionary.com/ima...ppie-48540.jpg. I know the truth is very shocking but we must spread the truth!

I am shocked. Good job Sparta. Which one is he??

Jeff@Eurobahn.us · 05-03-2007, 02:26 PM

Terry here is the response I got form Race Logic regarding LC. Sounds promissing!

Hi Jeff,

You may remember me - I used to work at Superchips (we are just around the corner) although when I did I was known as Sid. Good to hear from you.

I can well imagine that the 335 is proving popular - when I heard that BMW were to release this car my first thought was that it would be a tuner's dream. However, there are a few issues associated with modern BMWs and our traction control system:

Firstly, very sensitive misfire detection system. This is rather fundamental as this is how RLTC works - by misfiring the engine when wheel spin is detected. The BMW management shuts cylinders down on detecting a misfire, in the same way that the VAG cars put the whole thing into limp-home. There is a company over here who do a lot of modifications to E46's, the M3 especially, who can turn this off, but I bet that nobody has managed to do it in the 335 yet.

Secondly, the ABS system uses active ABS sensors, not passive, and this again makes it incompatible with our standard TC system, which needs to reference from standard ABS signals with a 0-5V or 0-12V signal. Active ABS has a constant +12V signal with the current being measured instead.

However, all is not lost. We have a version of our traction control system which gets wheel speed and RPM values from CAN, rather than voltage signals. Once we are capable of switching off the misfire detection, and can provide a CAN log showing wheel speed, wheel spin, and RPM, then there is a good chance we could further develop the product to work on this car.

If you're interested in this let me know. I look forward to hearing from you.

Regards,

Mike Broadbent,
Sales Manager.

Jeff
Eurobahn

Carnage · 05-03-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwzimmer

He has a reputation now for tax fraud and loving to dig into various products for some bizzare reason and always going out of his way to talk smack on the Procede......

I don't know Terry from a man on the moon and I could care less what he does, but unless you have proof to back that statement up, you now have a reputation for committing libel.

Sparta32 · 05-03-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 335Mat

I am shocked. Good job Sparta. Which one is he??

He is the hippie on the right. Today when I was driving I was being followed by a honda civic with a hippie van sticker on the left window. I when I saw the back window I clearly saw a sticker of a canadian flag. I think Omar has sent canadian hippie ninjas after me to try to stop me.

Terry335 · 05-03-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@Eurobahn.us

Terry here is the response I got form Race Logic regarding LC. Sounds promissing!

Hi Jeff,

You may remember me - I used to work at Superchips (we are just around the corner) although when I did I was known as Sid. Good to hear from you.

I can well imagine that the 335 is proving popular - when I heard that BMW were to release this car my first thought was that it would be a tuner's dream. However, there are a few issues associated with modern BMWs and our traction control system:

Firstly, very sensitive misfire detection system. This is rather fundamental as this is how RLTC works - by misfiring the engine when wheel spin is detected. The BMW management shuts cylinders down on detecting a misfire, in the same way that the VAG cars put the whole thing into limp-home. There is a company over here who do a lot of modifications to E46's, the M3 especially, who can turn this off, but I bet that nobody has managed to do it in the 335 yet.

Secondly, the ABS system uses active ABS sensors, not passive, and this again makes it incompatible with our standard TC system, which needs to reference from standard ABS signals with a 0-5V or 0-12V signal. Active ABS has a constant +12V signal with the current being measured instead.

However, all is not lost. We have a version of our traction control system which gets wheel speed and RPM values from CAN, rather than voltage signals. Once we are capable of switching off the misfire detection, and can provide a CAN log showing wheel speed, wheel spin, and RPM, then there is a good chance we could further develop the product to work on this car.

If you're interested in this let me know. I look forward to hearing from you.

Regards,

Mike Broadbent,
Sales Manager.

Jeff
Eurobahn

Great info, thanks!

Jeff@Eurobahn.us · 05-03-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

Great info, thanks!

No Sweat sir, as soon as more info is available I will post it up. Are you going to Bimmerfest? If so stop by the booth and say hi! We will be having some fantastic sale prices on stuff just for the day

Jeff
Eurobahn

Terry335 · 05-03-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@Eurobahn.us

No Sweat sir, as soon as more info is available I will post it up. Are you going to Bimmerfest? If so stop by the booth and say hi! We will be having some fantastic sale prices on stuff just for the day

Jeff
Eurobahn

I'm going to try to sneak up. If I can get away from the wife and baby I'll definitely say hi!

Jeff@Eurobahn.us · 05-03-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

I'm going to try to sneak up. If I can get away from the wife and baby I'll definitely say hi!

I can relate!

Sparta3223 · 05-08-2007, 10:49 PM

ahahaahhaha Omar - u almost got away with it

Ccatznip · 05-09-2007, 01:46 PM

Why do i feel this thread has pretty much been....HIJACKED!!!

AltecBX · 05-14-2010, 03:31 AM

Just doing some reading on Launch Control and I found this. WOW
Shiv, the Procede has come a long way. Is the current version of Launch Control the same. Will the user select the desired launch RPM?

sole cal · 05-14-2010, 03:45 AM

lol

enrita · 05-14-2010, 04:31 AM

3 years resurrection! LOL!

AltecBX · 05-14-2010, 04:40 AM

You guys are always saying to use the

button. Proof is in the pudding.

enrita · 05-14-2010, 05:47 AM

Yes search and read For your own but not resurrect....
A forum is not a chat between 2 persons.

NYCGarbagePrince · 05-14-2010, 07:33 AM

oh man... I always get a kick out of seeing Terry's old posts before he became Burger tuning...

BOOST3D · 05-14-2010, 08:59 AM

dinosaur thread resurrection!!!

Sparky66 · 05-14-2010, 12:53 PM

I think the only valid thing resurrected, was the memories of the constant jibes and attacks Terry inflicted on Shiv before Burger Tuning even existed........LOL,..no wonder he's no longer welcome here.

jpsimon · 05-14-2010, 12:59 PM

so easily people forget those days

05-03-2007, 02:26 PM	#49
Jeff@Eurobahn.us Captain 25 Rep 752 Posts Drives: European Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Launch Control Terry here is the response I got form Race Logic regarding LC. Sounds promissing! Hi Jeff, You may remember me - I used to work at Superchips (we are just around the corner) although when I did I was known as Sid. Good to hear from you. I can well imagine that the 335 is proving popular - when I heard that BMW were to release this car my first thought was that it would be a tuner's dream. However, there are a few issues associated with modern BMWs and our traction control system: Firstly, very sensitive misfire detection system. This is rather fundamental as this is how RLTC works - by misfiring the engine when wheel spin is detected. The BMW management shuts cylinders down on detecting a misfire, in the same way that the VAG cars put the whole thing into limp-home. There is a company over here who do a lot of modifications to E46's, the M3 especially, who can turn this off, but I bet that nobody has managed to do it in the 335 yet. Secondly, the ABS system uses active ABS sensors, not passive, and this again makes it incompatible with our standard TC system, which needs to reference from standard ABS signals with a 0-5V or 0-12V signal. Active ABS has a constant +12V signal with the current being measured instead. However, all is not lost. We have a version of our traction control system which gets wheel speed and RPM values from CAN, rather than voltage signals. Once we are capable of switching off the misfire detection, and can provide a CAN log showing wheel speed, wheel spin, and RPM, then there is a good chance we could further develop the product to work on this car. If you're interested in this let me know. I look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Mike Broadbent, Sales Manager. Jeff Eurobahn
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05-08-2007, 10:49 PM	#56
Sparta3223 Banned 1 Rep 49 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Altos California iTrader: (0)	ahahaahhaha Omar - u almost got away with it
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05-09-2007, 01:46 PM	#57
Ccatznip Cat 10 Rep 213 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Space Grey Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Germany (U.S. military members) iTrader: (4) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00] 2004 330i [0.00] 2006 Z4 3.0si [8.00] 2006 330i [0.00]	Why do i feel this thread has pretty much been....HIJACKED!!! __________________ Past cars: 04 330i w/perf. package, 06 Z4 3.0si Current cars: 06 330i, 07 335i
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AltecBX Colonel 325 Rep 2,663 Posts Drives: BMW 335xi Sedan; BMW M3 ZCP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M3 ZCP [0.00] 2007 BMW 335Xi [0.00]	Just doing some reading on Launch Control and I found this. WOW Shiv, the Procede has come a long way. Is the current version of Launch Control the same. Will the user select the desired launch RPM? __________________ 335xi Sedan 6AT \| Weather(70-85°F) \| N54 Tune Comparison Chart \|\| N54 Turbo Upgrade Comparison Chart -PROcede Rev. 2.5 ~ v5 (3/17 maps) / JB4 (8/21 maps) / COBB (Stg2+FMIC LT Aggressive maps) †Procede Map2(UT 45 - IGN 40) Aggression Target 2.0 \| 0-60 in 4.0sec \|\| †Cobb E30 LT (35% Ethanol/65% 93 Octane) \| 0-60 in 3.9sec AR Design Catless DP \| BMS DCI + OCC \| ETS 5 FMIC \| Alpina B3 Trans Flash \|235/265 19" Michelin PSS
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05-14-2010, 03:45 AM	#59
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05-14-2010, 04:31 AM	#60
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	3 years resurrection! LOL! __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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05-14-2010, 04:40 AM	#61
AltecBX Colonel 325 Rep 2,663 Posts Drives: BMW 335xi Sedan; BMW M3 ZCP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M3 ZCP [0.00] 2007 BMW 335Xi [0.00]	You guys are always saying to use the button. Proof is in the pudding. __________________ 335xi Sedan 6AT \| Weather(70-85°F) \| N54 Tune Comparison Chart \|\| N54 Turbo Upgrade Comparison Chart -PROcede Rev. 2.5 ~ v5 (3/17 maps) / JB4 (8/21 maps) / COBB (Stg2+FMIC LT Aggressive maps) †Procede Map2(UT 45 - IGN 40) Aggression Target 2.0 \| 0-60 in 4.0sec \|\| †Cobb E30 LT (35% Ethanol/65% 93 Octane) \| 0-60 in 3.9sec AR Design Catless DP \| BMS DCI + OCC \| ETS 5 FMIC \| Alpina B3 Trans Flash \|235/265 19" Michelin PSS
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05-14-2010, 05:47 AM	#62
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	Yes search and read For your own but not resurrect.... A forum is not a chat between 2 persons. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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05-14-2010, 07:33 AM	#63
NYCGarbagePrince Major 247 Rep 1,435 Posts Drives: X6 50i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	oh man... I always get a kick out of seeing Terry's old posts before he became Burger tuning...
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05-14-2010, 08:59 AM	#64
BOOST3D Captain 30 Rep 838 Posts Drives: 328i 2000,X5 2003,2008 335i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: whittier SOCAL iTrader: (10)	dinosaur thread resurrection!!!
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05-14-2010, 12:53 PM	#65
Sparky66 Major 58 Rep 1,230 Posts Drives: 335 E92 Coupe. Jet Black. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	I think the only valid thing resurrected, was the memories of the constant jibes and attacks Terry inflicted on Shiv before Burger Tuning even existed........LOL,..no wonder he's no longer welcome here.
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05-14-2010, 12:59 PM	#66
jpsimon Team Zissou 3082 Rep 10,198 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	so easily people forget those days
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