New Ytest
Sign out
Bimmerpost
Login
BMW E39 5-Series Forum | 5Post.com
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts  
Go Back   BMW E39 5-Series Forum | 5Post.com > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Cosmetic Care & Detailing (PPF/Wash/Wax/Detailing/Restoration/Repairs)

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-22-2024, 01:16 PM   #1
areddy
Private
United_States
95
Rep
87
Posts

 
Drives: 2022 BMW M3
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Dallas

iTrader: (0)

PPF for carbon fiber roof G80

Hi all - getting full front PPF, but wondering if it’s worth getting the CF roof PPF’d as well for $500?

Car is garaged and will barely do 8k miles a year

Last edited by areddy; 10-22-2024 at 01:22 PM..
Appreciate 0
      10-22-2024, 09:27 PM   #2
sean2648
First Lieutenant
sean2648's Avatar
United_States
188
Rep
381
Posts

 
Drives: 2015 335i
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Hagerstown

iTrader: (5)

Definitely worth it to PPF it.
__________________
'15 335 M Sport 6MT /// FBO /// Custom Tune /// Custom Interior

Instagram /// Build Thread
Appreciate 0
      10-28-2024, 07:59 AM   #3
Yuille36
Major
Yuille36's Avatar
United_States
715
Rep
1,440
Posts

 
Drives: X5M, M3 ZCP 6MT, MB E63 AMG
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Alexandria, VA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW X5M  [9.83]
2017 BMW/M3  [9.90]
I had my F80 M3 roof covered in PPF. Most definitely worth it in my opinion.
Attached Images
 
__________________
It is never taken for granted that a commitment to speed and acceleration must be matched with an equivalent ambition when it comes time to stop!
Appreciate 0
      10-28-2024, 08:16 AM   #4
IanH
First Lieutenant
303
Rep
301
Posts

 
Drives: '25 M240xi
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: United States

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Buying my brother's RS4 we flew to VA to pick it up, and on the 3rd hour in the car we took a rock that made a golfball sized dent in the roof from a truck that was many many car lengths in front of us. Sounded like a gunshot went off in the cabin.

On one hand PPF probalby wouldnt stop it, but on the other, a smaller rock wouldve been stopped and its basically impossible to repair the CF roof without a visible repair area.
__________________
2025 M240i Xdrive TNM/Cog
Appreciate 0
      10-28-2024, 08:32 AM   #5
Yuille36
Major
Yuille36's Avatar
United_States
715
Rep
1,440
Posts

 
Drives: X5M, M3 ZCP 6MT, MB E63 AMG
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Alexandria, VA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW X5M  [9.83]
2017 BMW/M3  [9.90]
This was a response I received from another poster, when I mentioned that I covered my roof in PPF due to oxidation or yellowing.

Basically, clear coat does not yellow. Gel coat will yellow and deteriorate because it is sensitive to UV rays. Clear coat protects it.
Unlike normal body paint, carbon fiber and gel coat are more likely to peel off than normal body paint due to expansion and contraction problems caused by heat. In the case of a carbon roof, delamination is more likely to occur between the gel coat and the clear coat. Certainly the protection film will protect the clear coat, but the protection film itself will yellow. And when you remove it, the clear coat may peel off.
High quality clear coat is the best choice for UV protection. Protection film is recommended for stepping stones. Afterwards, if you get hit by a skipping stone, please close it with clear coat as soon as possible, even if it is just a touch-up. It may peel off rapidly from there.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)
__________________
It is never taken for granted that a commitment to speed and acceleration must be matched with an equivalent ambition when it comes time to stop!
Appreciate 1
areddy94.50
      10-28-2024, 08:56 AM   #6
Yuille36
Major
Yuille36's Avatar
United_States
715
Rep
1,440
Posts

 
Drives: X5M, M3 ZCP 6MT, MB E63 AMG
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Alexandria, VA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW X5M  [9.83]
2017 BMW/M3  [9.90]
Quote:
Originally Posted by IanH View Post
Buying my brother's RS4 we flew to VA to pick it up, and on the 3rd hour in the car we took a rock that made a golfball sized dent in the roof from a truck that was many many car lengths in front of us. Sounded like a gunshot went off in the cabin.

On one hand PPF probalby wouldnt stop it, but on the other, a smaller rock wouldve been stopped and its basically impossible to repair the CF roof without a visible repair area.
Unfortunately, PPF will not save you from golf ball size dents. But can in most cases save you from small rocks skipping off of the roof, and UV damage. In my case they first clean the CF roof, then used a clay bar to remove contaminates, then did a 2-Stage compounding and buffing process to remove oxidation and scratches. Before applying the PPF and ceramic coating it. And I think that it came out beautiful. And most importantly, I have a 10-year warranty on the PPF, and 6-year on the ceramic coating.
__________________
It is never taken for granted that a commitment to speed and acceleration must be matched with an equivalent ambition when it comes time to stop!
Appreciate 0
      10-28-2024, 09:12 AM   #7
IanH
First Lieutenant
303
Rep
301
Posts

 
Drives: '25 M240xi
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: United States

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
My point to illustrate with the RS4 story is that even if you drive it very little you can still get a major impact, and we were being quite careful.
__________________
2025 M240i Xdrive TNM/Cog
Appreciate 0
      10-28-2024, 11:27 AM   #8
Yuille36
Major
Yuille36's Avatar
United_States
715
Rep
1,440
Posts

 
Drives: X5M, M3 ZCP 6MT, MB E63 AMG
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Alexandria, VA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW X5M  [9.83]
2017 BMW/M3  [9.90]
I understood that fact, and to my point is protection from oxidation. We all know that CF left in the sun, will start to turn yellow. And that is the gel coat, and not the clear coat. It's better to have some protection than nothing at all. Could PPF have save you with that dent No, but in some cases of small rocks maybe. So is PPF worth the cost, from my point of view yes, it is.
__________________
It is never taken for granted that a commitment to speed and acceleration must be matched with an equivalent ambition when it comes time to stop!
Appreciate 1
chris7197602.50
      10-30-2024, 10:28 PM   #9
jdl5068
Private
48
Rep
80
Posts

 
Drives: 2018 f90 m5
Join Date: May 2024
Location: pa usa

iTrader: (0)

if i ever get back to this "luxury" used car dealer i must take pics of the older M cars with the neglected CF roofs on them they have sitting there. They most certainly will yellow and if a chip gets through the clear, forget it. It just unravels and cracks more so quickly it'll make your head spin it seemed.

I really must go there and put it on this thread, it's like they only sold the most trashed euro luxury cars there are. so sad
Appreciate 0
      10-31-2024, 08:00 AM   #10
Westside Guy
Major General
Westside Guy's Avatar
7271
Rep
5,236
Posts

 
Drives: 22 Z4 M40i, 21 228i Retired
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Hallandale Beach, FL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuille36 View Post
Unfortunately, PPF will not save you from golf ball size dents. But can in most cases save you from small rocks skipping off of the roof, and UV damage.
You forgot to mention bird droppings which left unattended can cause damage!
Appreciate 0
      10-31-2024, 09:25 AM   #11
Yuille36
Major
Yuille36's Avatar
United_States
715
Rep
1,440
Posts

 
Drives: X5M, M3 ZCP 6MT, MB E63 AMG
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Alexandria, VA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW X5M  [9.83]
2017 BMW/M3  [9.90]
Bird droppings is the worst as the enzymes in their poop etches away your clear coat. And depending how long it's been sitting on the clear coat, will require compounding and polishing to remove the damage.
__________________
It is never taken for granted that a commitment to speed and acceleration must be matched with an equivalent ambition when it comes time to stop!
Appreciate 1
      11-05-2024, 06:28 PM   #12
bousquettucker
New Member
6
Rep
17
Posts

 
Drives: E90/E91 335i
Join Date: Oct 2024
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

500 is a pretty good price to ensure it lasts that much longer
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2024, 04:02 PM   #13
Equilibrandt
Auto/DCT Zealot
Equilibrandt's Avatar
United_States
620
Rep
444
Posts

 
Drives: M3, Miata
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
I've seen quite a few videos over the last few years of people peeling off the their yellowed PPF on their CF roofs (to apply fresh PPF), just to accidentally peel of the the CF gel coat along with it.

Tread carefully.
__________________
- 2017 BMW M3 Competition / Silverstone II / DCT
- 2020 Mazda MX-5 Grand Touring / Machine Grey / Soft Top / (Awaiting CARB-EO) Edelbrock Supercharger
Appreciate 2
NYR143.00
      11-06-2024, 04:19 PM   #14
NWH83
Enlisted Member
NWH83's Avatar
United_States
47
Rep
34
Posts

 
Drives: 2018 F80 ZCP, 1998 E36
Join Date: Dec 2023
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (0)

$500 is a great price, especially if it comes with a warranty. Just got a quote for $600 here (Northern California) with a 10 year warranty.
Appreciate 0
      11-06-2024, 05:07 PM   #15
Yuille36
Major
Yuille36's Avatar
United_States
715
Rep
1,440
Posts

 
Drives: X5M, M3 ZCP 6MT, MB E63 AMG
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Alexandria, VA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW X5M  [9.83]
2017 BMW/M3  [9.90]
The issue I see is owners leaving their PPF on entirely too long. Even if the PPF has a 10-year warranty.
__________________
It is never taken for granted that a commitment to speed and acceleration must be matched with an equivalent ambition when it comes time to stop!
Appreciate 0
      11-07-2024, 03:55 PM   #16
NYR
Second Lieutenant
NYR's Avatar
143
Rep
257
Posts

 
Drives: 2025 BMW M3 Competition xDrive
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Calgary, Canada

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuille36 View Post
The issue I see is owners leaving their PPF on entirely too long. Even if the PPF has a 10-year warranty.
How long is too long?
Appreciate 0
      11-07-2024, 04:02 PM   #17
Yuille36
Major
Yuille36's Avatar
United_States
715
Rep
1,440
Posts

 
Drives: X5M, M3 ZCP 6MT, MB E63 AMG
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Alexandria, VA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW X5M  [9.83]
2017 BMW/M3  [9.90]
I don't rightly know, but I have PPF that has been on my E63 AMG for about 7 years, and I'm having it removed next year.
My shop guy said that my PPF is old technology and that the new stuff last 10 years.
But it all depends on whether or not the vehicles spend a significant amount of time in the sun, such as Arizona.
And has the PPF started to get cloudy looking, like on headlights.
But guys that do this kind of stuff for a living will definitely know new from old.
When I bought my M3 it still has the PPF that was installed when the car was brand new, so I'm having that removed next year as well.
But honestly, the PPF looks good, I don't see any yellowing or cloudiness in it. But I'm no expert.
__________________
It is never taken for granted that a commitment to speed and acceleration must be matched with an equivalent ambition when it comes time to stop!

Last edited by Yuille36; 11-07-2024 at 07:35 PM..
Appreciate 0
      11-07-2024, 04:27 PM   #18
peterfromsd
oem plus
179
Rep
158
Posts

 
Drives: ‘24 M3
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Washington State

iTrader: (0)

Worth it. Had a rock hit just above my front windshield and hit the front of the roof and the ppf took the damage.
__________________
2024 dravit grey M3 - Current
2006 wrapped matte blue M5 - dinan stage 2 w/ custom cf and coilover suspension - gone
2004 dakar yellow M3 - ess supercharger, hre wheels, status gruppe - gone
Appreciate 1
F_M_S18.00
      11-07-2024, 07:29 PM   #19
Yuille36
Major
Yuille36's Avatar
United_States
715
Rep
1,440
Posts

 
Drives: X5M, M3 ZCP 6MT, MB E63 AMG
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Alexandria, VA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW X5M  [9.83]
2017 BMW/M3  [9.90]
Quote:
Originally Posted by peterfromsd View Post
Worth it. Had a rock hit just above my front windshield and hit the front of the roof and the ppf took the damage.
Well, that testimony is all we need to know.
__________________
It is never taken for granted that a commitment to speed and acceleration must be matched with an equivalent ambition when it comes time to stop!
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:19 PM.




5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST