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      10-09-2024, 12:57 PM   #1
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Pan the organizer Clean 3 year coating

Phenomenal coating to apply and wipe off. Super slick, tremendous gloss. Just coated my 2025 x3 m50
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      10-09-2024, 01:48 PM   #2
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Thanks for your review, I was curious about this and his other products.
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Thank you for sharing! It looks amazing!
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I like how Pan's utilizing a clear bottle. Other ceramic products I've used utilize a dark glass bottle, its very hard to know how much product is left.
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I like how Pan's utilizing a clear bottle. Other ceramic products I've used utilize a dark glass bottle, its very hard to know how much product is left.
This is due to how most products react to UV when curing and could ruin the sauce. iirc Pan's is not a traditional ceramic coating like you see in other products. Still super good tho
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People are buying mediocre youtuber's renamed relabeled repackaged retail product?

Why?

That bottle looks like the $10 amazon/ebay no name stuff from China.
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People are buying mediocre youtuber's renamed relabeled repackaged retail product?

Why?

That bottle looks like the $10 amazon/ebay no name stuff from China.
It could be a decent coating don't get me wrong but I've seen enough from Pan over the years. He'll say any product is good as long as he gets $$$. No way in hell this is a unique product he worked in developing. Dudes a sellout
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It could be a decent coating don't get me wrong but I've seen enough from Pan over the years. He'll say any product is good as long as he gets $$$. No way in hell this is a unique product he worked in developing. Dudes a sellout
This is true, but honestly I've learned alot from this guy along with a few others.

If I had to buy a true ceramic I would go with diydetail.

I still using turtle wax's ceramic paste on the bimmer and their graphene liquid on the vette and wife's ride. It's working just fine
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This is true, but honestly I've learned alot from this guy along with a few others.

If I had to buy a true ceramic I would go with diydetail.

I still using turtle wax's ceramic paste on the bimmer and their graphene liquid on the vette and wife's ride. It's working just fine
No one has been as technical and informative as Larry @ AMMONYC imo. Especially when Kevin Brown is on with him.

Forensic Detailing and Scott HD have thorough product testing comparisons on single panels.

I never really cared for YTbers reviewing a product, standalone, based on feel as it's incredibly subjective. After so many years, I'm not drinking the kool aid anymore. Telling me a product looks more glossy than another means nothing - put a gloss meter on it and show me it actually is.
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No one has been as technical and informative as Larry @ AMMONYC imo. Especially when Kevin Brown is on with him.

Forensic Detailing and Scott HD have thorough product testing comparisons on single panels.

I never really cared for YTbers reviewing a product, standalone, based on feel as it's incredibly subjective. After so many years, I'm not drinking the kool aid anymore. Telling me a product looks more glossy than another means nothing - put a gloss meter on it and show me it actually is.
I concur. I picked the turtle wax after watching forensic detailing. I love comparison videos.
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People are buying mediocre youtuber's renamed relabeled repackaged retail product?

Why?

That bottle looks like the $10 amazon/ebay no name stuff from China.
This was developed with his own chemist. Clearly you haven’t watched the videos in his line.
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      10-17-2024, 06:54 PM   #12
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Used Pans rinseless wash, and his ceramic spray as a drying aid. Excellent slickness and the coatings hydrophobics are stellar. I’ve used turtle wax graphene wax on my last m40i great slickness and gloss but it only lasted two months for me. With the upcoming new standards and ingredient bans that will come into place with forever chemicals, you’re already safe with Pan’s line.
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