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      05-16-2019, 04:59 PM   #23
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I promise I'm not having fun railing on Honda but does a $160k+ supercar come standard with iron rotors that are not cross drilled and/or slotted?

Dunno.... but here is a video of it spanking a $250,000 Huracan 4 times






There are countless videos of it walking away from GTR's, Lambos, Ferrari, AMG, etc...

Here is one of it killing a $280,000 458 Spider


Did the same thing to the Aventador

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Those of you pining for one should start calling dealers and throwing out ridiculous lowball offers. $20k off should be the starting point.

The NSX was one of the two worst selling cars in America last year - i’m guessing there will be a lot of desperation to move units
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wasn't there a guy on here that got some smokin lease for almost nothing down and $1k a month?
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wasn't there a guy on here that got some smokin lease for almost nothing down and $1k a month?
Yeah it was some kind of deal close to that, can't remember who it was though.
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Funny how few years ago they had $20-30k dealer markups for people that had to be the first on the block with one..... now the 2019 is cheaper then what some are trying to sale their 2017 for
Worst case of "first kid on the block" ever was the Chrysler PT Cruiser.

There was so much hype when it came out that some people were paying $5K over sticker price for a total POS.

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The NSX is an example why Toyota decided to partner with BMW. If Toyota took on the Supra independently, this would be the result - an overly expensive Toyota that no one would buy regardless of performance.

Take away brand snobbery, the NSX is a fine automobile with technology that can hang with most supercars. I know if I had the money, I would definitely take it over a R8.
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So, how does the performance, and interior compare to our M6"s?
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      05-16-2019, 08:56 PM   #30
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Worst case of "first kid on the block" ever was the Chrysler PT Cruiser.

There was so much hype when it came out that some people were paying $5K over sticker price for a total POS.

+1. You could say the same about the reboot of the Ford Thunderbird in the early 2000s. What a dog. It's the worst being a first adopter on a crappy product.
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i think a big part of the problem is it isn't a pretty car. looks like a smooshed and stretched acura TL.
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The NSX is a nice car, there's no doubt about it, but the market has pretty clearly spoken, and it said it didn't want 200k or even 150k NSXs. I'm skeptical even this big price drop will move the units gathering dust on lots.

Humdizzle is on the money; Honda should have positioned this as a GTR competitor instead of the GT3.
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      05-17-2019, 07:58 AM   #33
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i think a big part of the problem is it isn't a pretty car. looks like a smooshed and stretched acura TL.
This. it looks all wrong.
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      05-17-2019, 11:12 AM   #34
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I've seen twenty times as many McLarens on the road as I have NSXs. Pretty strange when you consider the running costs of Maccas to a Honda. This is the same reason the Phaeton failed. People are only willing to pony up a certain amount before it looks foolish compared to the rest of the category. If you can afford a $150k car, you can probably afford a $250k car. Nobody is saving their allowance then plunking it all down on an NSX.
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I've seen twenty times as many McLarens on the road as I have NSXs. Pretty strange when you consider the running costs of Maccas to a Honda. This is the same reason the Phaeton failed. People are only willing to pony up a certain amount before it looks foolish compared to the rest of the category. If you can afford a $150k car, you can probably afford a $250k car. Nobody is saving their allowance then plunking it all down on an NSX.

True.
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What staggers me is they are going for less than 5 year old 911 turbo's ..... unbelievable.
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I was eyeing this car before I decided on a 911 Turbo S. Performance is comparable but the TTS is a better daily and won't depreciate like a BMW (learned my lesson buying BMWs, only lease from now on).

NSX seems like a spectacular car, but the price tag, as everyone stated, puts it in exotic territory. And just like the GTR, it's roots remain a mass produced Japanese car company. Wouldn't pay 150-200k for a Nissan and wouldn't for a Honda either.

Problem is, 80-90% of buyers in that price range and category do NOT track their cars, so they don't give a shit which car performs better... just which one is more exotic and gets more attention (prestige).

Not justifying their thought process, just explaining the market.

On the other hand, if you're comparing this car at 0-5k due at signing and 12-1500 a month lease VS 10-20K due at signing and 3k monthly lease, then yes it's a fantastic deal.
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I am not sure people will pay $200K even if it's 650HP and rear wheel drive only even with no hybrid bs. In the $200K price range, there are just too many exotic cars from Europe that the NSX wouldn't stand a chance. At the end of the day, it's still a Honda built in Ohio.

But if the same at $120K, then maybe (but even then I am not sure). It will just be another soon to be forgotten once the novelty worn off.

Oh, by the way, the new C8 will make $200K NSX buyers look quite foolish.

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I drove the new NSX on the street for a long test drive. It sounds much better than I expected. Obviously itís incredibly capable but also very easy to drive. The interior was a big letdown- gauges and graphics on NAV are embarrassing for a car over $100k. The center stack is a mess. Outside styling is poralizing specifically the front. Original NSX was a masterpiece in comparison.

Personally i would pick R8 - looks and sounds better, Interior is at least decade more advanced.
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what a schizophrenic product strategy. you find out that there's no market for your car at your initial price point, no matter how good, so you start discounting it until you find the sweet spot. fair enough, and a logical pricing strategy. but then you re-release the same car, with more content/performance, at an even higher price point than the original!

so they basically thinking, oh - i couldn't find many takers at 570hp and $160k, lemme try 650hp and $200k...

as a marketing guy, i'd have to do the marketing research on the slow sales before doing anything different. i'm guessing that the results of that research are not "hey we might be interested in the car but you gotta make it faster and charge us more". i'm guessing what they heard was "i'm not paying $160k for an Acura" or "i don't feel your car is competitive with cars at the same price point".

what they could do is sell the Type R at $160k! that would work, what do ya say, Honda?
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what a schizophrenic product strategy. you find out that there's no market for your car at your initial price point, no matter how good, so you start discounting it until you find the sweet spot. fair enough, and a logical pricing strategy. but then you re-release the same car, with more content/performance, at an even higher price point than the original!

so they basically thinking, oh - i couldn't find many takers at 570hp and $160k, lemme try 650hp and $200k...

as a marketing guy, i'd have to do the marketing research on the slow sales before doing anything different. i'm guessing that the results of that research are not "hey we might be interested in the car but you gotta make it faster and charge us more". i'm guessing what they heard was "i'm not paying $160k for an Acura" or "i don't feel your car is competitive with cars at the same price point".

what they could do is sell the Type R at $160k! that would work, what do ya say, Honda?
It's killing most cars off the line and in straight line speed that are much more expensive(as seen in the videos above and in many more YouTube vids), but unfortunately it doesn't have a pretentious enough badge for people with money to sale at $150-$200k ..... kinda like the original NSX it was hard for people to wrap their heads around a $70k Honda in 1991

I think the some of the idea behind releasing a NSX-R might be to help spark sales and also make the regular version seem like a bargain ( even though it already is when you compare it to the prices of the cars that it's walking away from)

If it's a limited number of cars it will sell out very quickly even at $200k

That's cheaper than what you can buy a 1995 NSX-R for these days
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We can tell someone here really loves NSX..
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I promise I'm not having fun railing on Honda but does a $160k+ supercar come standard with iron rotors that are not cross drilled and/or slotted?

Dunno.... but here is a video of it spanking a $250,000 Huracan 4 times






There are countless videos of it walking away from GTR's, Lambos, Ferrari, AMG, etc...

Here is one of it killing a $280,000 458 Spider


Did the same thing to the Aventador
I believe in the drag times video the hurricanes had worn tires. A fresh set of rubber and the hurrican is significantly faster in another video. Stock for stock the NSX is slower but with mods it can be faster.
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