Subluxation/Dislocation

[440i6MT]

Subluxed my shoulder the day after Christmas (ironically, also the day after I hit my cutting goal for the year. Down 35 pounds, 8% bodyfat).


I wasn't planning on getting an MRI, because I've been regaining ROM while the pain subsides... but then I read the ESPN story of basketball player Ja Morant suffering essentially the same thing, tearing his labrum, and now getting surgery.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...oulder-surgery


Now I'm feeling down because I was hoping it wasn't a tear requiring surgery, but it very likely could be.
Anyone else experience the same injury? 26M

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

you will find ways to compensate with poor stability of the glenhumoral joint. yet itll all be fine.

i would get imaging if you have had massive bruise any or total lack of movement over 3 days. you will continue to make things worse, but from someone with serious shoulder pathology you will find ways to compensate and you will almost feel as good as new

[440i6MT]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

you will find ways to compensate with poor stability of the glenhumoral joint. yet itll all be fine.

i would get imaging if you have had massive bruise any or total lack of movement over 3 days. you will continue to make things worse, but from someone with serious shoulder pathology you will find ways to compensate and you will almost feel as good as new

I'll see how things stand once I get the MRI (however many weeks that may be in the future).
Where do you stands on surgery? Get it no matter what or last resort?

[sizanx]

There is no difference between non- and surgical treatment for shoulder injuries in most cases. The time of recovery can be shortened for especially young athletes which is why they would probably recommend surgery in the NBA.

I would get a scan, consult a doctor and would consider surgery as being last resort. However, this is dependent on results and clinical examination after swelling has subsided.

[Monkey Throttle]

100% start with physical therapy.

[floridaorange]

What happened? New injury? What motion hurt it? Have you seen a dr or is this a self-diagnosis? Congrats on losing the weight. Keep it off with walking after meals, eating fruit for lunch and doing lots off lower body work especially with a plyometric box if you don't want to do deadlifts and squats. Also what is your age?

[440i6MT]

Originally Posted by floridaorange

What happened? New injury? What motion hurt it? Have you seen a dr or is this a self-diagnosis? Congrats on losing the weight. Keep it off with walking after meals, eating fruit for lunch and doing lots off lower body work especially with a plyometric box if you don't want to do deadlifts and squats, although. Also what is your age?

26. I've always been physically active, but these past two years were when I started competing and setting goals.
For 2022, I bulked up 25 pounds. That's the only reason this cut [in weight] had been so drastic. I know my body pretty well, such that I avoid deadlifts & flat bench specifically, and even the mobility issues I've had with this shoulder for a long time.

I was in a sling for a month after nearly tearing my rotator cuff mid-bulk. Healed up, but I didn't keep up with mobility exercises, and now here we are. Saw it coming, if I'm being completely honest.

Tl;dr New injury, [due to] old problems

[floridaorange]

FWIW, I find for me - when I am trying to maintain a calorie deficit of any kind, lifting heavy becomes less safe. My body needs calorie dense food and lots of it for my system to have what it needs to really hit the heavy weight hard. But I'm in my 40's.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

Originally Posted by floridaorange

FWIW, I find for me - when I am trying to maintain a calorie deficit of any kind, lifting heavy becomes less safe. My body needs calorie dense food and lots of it for my system to have what it needs to really hit the heavy weight hard. But I'm in my 40's.

yeah hes in the golden years of non injury but he doesnt have much time left.

28-30 was very humbling. I am still active as much as I want, but I gotta eat and take care of my body. just cant drink not stretch, eat liek shit, and be invincible

[floridaorange]

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Yes and adding functional days. Wish I had known what that when I was younger but glad I know it now. My body is so much more strong when I add full body functional workouts into my split.

[440i6MT]

Originally Posted by floridaorange

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Yes and adding functional days. Wish I had known what that meant when I was younger but glad I know it now. My body is so much more strong when I add full body functional workouts into my split.

This is actually what I've started doing. I get as much of a work out doing mobility as I do, say, squatting 300.
Definitely important. More bodyweight exercises, as well. I can already tell that throwing around massive weight doesn't feel good anatomically.

[floridaorange]

Good man - it’s somewhat counter intuitive but similar to adding a cardio day - the body loves variety.

[440i6MT]

Originally Posted by sizanx

There is no difference between non- and surgical treatment for shoulder injuries in most cases. The time of recovery can be shortened for especially young athletes which is why they would probably recommend surgery in the NBA.

I would get a scan, consult a doctor and would consider surgery as being last resort. However, this is dependent on results and clinical examination after swelling has subsided.

Several people have told me surgery is a last resort.
I'll be getting the X-ray after work today, MRI hopefully next week!

[Littierally]

Be careful getting medical advice from people you don’t know on a forum.

I’m an orthopedic surgeon. Get the MRI. All shoulder injuries are not equal, the comments in this thread regarding surgical vs non-surgical treatment are baseless.

I’m happy to chat via PM once you have the results to discuss options.

[UncleWede]

As the above will probably tell you, shoulder healing can take a long time.

Last May I had a bone spur removed. Yeah, Dr. "cleaned" a few tissues, but there wasn't direct repair of any soft tissue. Supervised PT is over now, but I still lack ROM. The good thing is, I can now sleep at night without pain. I took a few tentative strokes in the pool this past weekend, still not feasible to do a crawl.

57, M, insulin-dependent.