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      04-07-2019, 12:40 PM   #23
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Not trying to stir a pot here, just trying to understand the theory why Trump is refusing/reluctant to release his and what that means for us US residents? So what If I get sued and the other party wants to see my personal/business tax returns. Can I take the same stand and not release them and If I have to release mine, why can't we make him release his?*
If you get sued, it depends on what the judge rules.

Trump doesn’t want to release his returns because as soon as they are released, there will be many groups of politically-motivated people, both inside and outside government, dissecting them and speculating whatever they choose to speculate and spread dispersions through the press. We have already seen this happen without the tax returns. Has anyone responding in this thread actually reviewed materials released by past presidents / candidates and learned anything useful, or simply glanced at a headline about them (and maybe not even that)?
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I know you’re not the president, but I’d like a copy of your tax return, please... better yet, post it here... if you don’t, it’s proof you have something to hide.
I am not an elected official. See the difference
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I realize I am feeding a Troll.

But if you were the President and a bunch of Howling wolves wanted to see your thousands of page return and then hire 100 auditors to go over it..and you released you would be......I can't say what I am thinking bc I don't want to get banned again

I'll say it more gentle: you could never rise to a very high position in the coporate world
Trump owes ALL of his success to his father.
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Then he promised he would show them many times so I feel like he should follow through, like anyone else that makes promises, if you don't want to do something just say you aren't interested.
He never promised to reveal them

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I am not an elected official. See the difference
No. Politicians don't release their tax returns. Presidents "may" but are not required to. Keep trying you might somehow stumble on a correct thought.
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He's 'hiding' something that the federal government has full knowledge of because said information would have been disclosed to the IRS. Hard to fight with that logic lol
So what if the IRS has knowledge of this tax returns. Do you think the IRS has shared the contents with other departments.
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Trump owes ALL of his success to his father.
I'm not sure this checks out. How did his father help him succeed in his television career? How did his father help him become President of the United States?
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He never promised to reveal them
Trump -
“I’m under a routine audit and it'll be released, and as soon as the audit is finished it will be released."

2014 - "If I decide to run for office, I'll produce my tax returns, absolutely. And I would love to do that," he said in an interview with Ireland's TV3.


Would you like me to include all of the other Trump tweets and what he has said about his returns?
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Trump -
“I’m under a routine audit and it'll be released, and as soon as the audit is finished it will be released."

2014 - "If I decide to run for office, I'll produce my tax returns, absolutely. And I would love to do that," he said in an interview with Ireland's TV3.


Would you like me to include all of the other Trump tweets and what he has said about his returns?
Nope

I guess though what changed was the nature of the vicious attacks upon the President and his team. If I were in his position and saw the evolment of Democratic firing squads focusing on only destroying this administration by weponizing these committees I can certainly understand why he he changed his mind.

No one could ever dream that the Dems would find ways to "punish" people by the Weaponization of the Government. The last straw referring criminal prosecution to Democratic Friendly areas of the State of New York.

Some day "We The People" mindful of 2nd Amendment Rights may have to act as the "Last Resort" as enumerated in the Origional "Declaration of Independence"
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Why would a third party ask for your tax returns, taxes is solely the business of the individual and the government and if something was wrong with it we have government agency that handle those matters.


Define "wrong" in that scenario, please?
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Define "wrong" in that scenario, please?
Meaning illegal or failure to disclose or report.
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Meaning illegal or failure to disclose or report.
OK. From a governmental perspective, can you imagine anything that might be cause for concern within his tax disclosures that wouldn't be illegal?
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OK. From a governmental perspective, can you imagine anything that might be cause for concern within his tax disclosures that wouldn't be illegal?
Ok from a government perspective if your so against someone that you have agent trying to conspire against him during the election and their was something illegal in his tax return wouldn't you have leak it by now.
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Ok from a government perspective if your so against someone that you have agent trying to conspire against him during the election and their was something illegal in his tax return wouldn't you have leak it by now.
We're no longer talking about something in the return that would violate law, though.

I'm asking if you can't think of anything that would concern you about a politician's taxes/financial reality that might not actually cross the threshold into illegality.
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We're no longer talking about something in the return that would violate law, though.

I'm asking if you can't think of anything that would concern you about a politician's taxes/financial reality that might not actually cross the threshold into illegality.
Nope, nor would I care. Just like I don't care Amazon legally paid 0 dollars in taxes via using theee tax incentives
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collusion blew up in their faces so here we are back at the tax returns again. Rounnnd and rounnnnd we go.
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Nope, nor would I care. Just like I don't care Amazon legally paid 0 dollars in taxes via using theee tax incentives
So, if Obama donated large sums of money to a Muslim charity that was rumored to have ties to terrorist groups - which is completely legal - that wouldn't have concerned you?
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He doesn't want to release his tax return or else it will expose what his real net worth is.

“It was my experience that Mr. Trump inflated his total assets when it served his purposes, such as trying to be listed amongst the wealthiest people in Forbes,” Cohen said, “and deflated his assets to reduce his real estate taxes.”
I believe they (his tax returns) may open him up to bank fraud charges. He can't help but lie. Lying to the US public is one thing. Lying on financial documents and tax forms is very different. My bet is his tax returns will be accurate, he won't be what he claims wealth-wise, and on loan documents he will have been shown to have lied. Fraud. Manafort is doing hard time for that.
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So, if Obama donated large sums of money to a Muslim charity that was rumored to have ties to terrorist groups - which is completely legal - that wouldn't have concerned you?
Obama donated a large sum of money to Iran. As all good Democrats
it wasn't his own money.
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So, if Obama donated large sums of money to a Muslim charity that was rumored to have ties to terrorist groups - which is completely legal - that wouldn't have concerned you?
Aha!

I knew he was a terrorist supporter.
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I believe they (his tax returns) may open him up to bank fraud charges. He can't help but lie. Lying to the US public is one thing. Lying on financial documents and tax forms is very different. My bet is his tax returns will be accurate, he won't be what he claims wealth-wise, and on loan documents he will have been shown to have lied. Fraud. Manafort is doing hard time for that.
and yet Muller didn't discover that.
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We're no longer talking about something in the return that would violate law, though.

I'm asking if you can't think of anything that would concern you about a politician's taxes/financial reality that might not actually cross the threshold into illegality.
Considering Muller found nothing when he was prosecuting people for tax fraud make it quite clear Trump is in the up and up despite what the media and Democrats say.
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Considering Muller found nothing when he was prosecuting people for tax fraud make it quite clear Trump is in the up and up despite what the media and Democrats say.
Why do you keep going back to illegal actions after I have repeatedly asked about things that are legal?

So, if Trump owed significant money to Chinese banks that are strongly connected to the government, you would see no reason for concern there?
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