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      12-05-2022, 01:40 PM   #7261
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Of course you'll find a bunch of videos on youtube about police shootings and violence, because that's all people are interested in because it fits the medias narrative. What you dont see on youtube are the countless situations where cops save lives by risking theirs, how they deal with PTS everyday from the things they have seen, the times they impact a community in a positive way by providing positive influence and mentoring, etc. These things far outweigh the negative, but no one cares to record and share the good in life. Everyone wants to focus on the negative and then poke and prod and pick out all the things they would have done differnetly.

I recall a "study" a police training facility did where they took people off the street and ran them through training simulations to see how they would react. Most of them resorted to deadly force right away or got themselves killed (training environment obviously, not literally killed). I recall one of them was very loud about police violence and how police shoot first and ask questions later, and in his scenario he killed an unarmed dude because he felt threatened. Huh, weird.
Cops acting properly is the norm and that isn't getting clicks.

There are a lot of good people doing police work. Or other work. I had an experience when I was very young. Kind of off topic but I classify all first responders and nurses in a category of serving the public.

I was a young white kid with long hair and a backpack hitch hiking from Vermont to New Jersey for Thanksgiving. Got a ride north of NYC. I asked the guy if he was going all the way through to NJ before getting in and he says yeah. Buttwipe gets off in the Bronx and lets me out.

There I am late afternoon with no way to hitch a ride on the highway because there is no where to stop on the road in the city. Knew I was being stalked by some people who wanted to fuck with me. Did the smart thing and entered a hospital and just sat down trying to figure out what do do next.

Black nurse spots me and asks what I'm doing there. I DID stick out. Like myself she figures if I leave I'll be back as a patient. Says wait she gets off in a bit. She gets off and drives me across the bridge into NJ and I get home OK. I wish I could find her now. I'd be happy to do something for her in return for that human kindness.
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The media will only share snippets that will just about enrage anyone without context. One YT channel that shifted my perspective was PoliceActivity. Most of their videos are full length showing multiple bodycam angles with some background information. It's insane how one moment a cop is having a normal exchange with a perp in a traffic stop, then in a split second perp pulls out their piece and starts blasting. Basically showing the perp wasn't the angel we were lead to believe, or how moronic aiming for the leg is. I saw a recent video in Texas where a cop did a full mag dump on a guy point blank and he survived. Whats nice is the channel doesn't discriminate either. It has a rude awakening for the believe all cops crowd too- by showing full incidents of some cops being idiots.

That 70 year old with a knife comment made earlier is dumb. No one knows whats going through someones mind or what they're capable of. What if the suicide is really an ambush? All it takes is one slash to your throat and you're bleeding out (thanks Liveleak).
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      12-06-2022, 06:38 AM   #7263
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Cops acting properly is the norm and that isn't getting clicks.

There are a lot of good people doing police work. Or other work. I had an experience when I was very young. Kind of off topic but I classify all first responders and nurses in a category of serving the public.

I was a young white kid with long hair and a backpack hitch hiking from Vermont to New Jersey for Thanksgiving. Got a ride north of NYC. I asked the guy if he was going all the way through to NJ before getting in and he says yeah. Buttwipe gets off in the Bronx and lets me out.

There I am late afternoon with no way to hitch a ride on the highway because there is no where to stop on the road in the city. Knew I was being stalked by some people who wanted to fuck with me. Did the smart thing and entered a hospital and just sat down trying to figure out what do do next.

Black nurse spots me and asks what I'm doing there. I DID stick out. Like myself she figures if I leave I'll be back as a patient. Says wait she gets off in a bit. She gets off and drives me across the bridge into NJ and I get home OK. I wish I could find her now. I'd be happy to do something for her in return for that human kindness.
There are lots of decent people out there who do the right thing all the time, it doesn't sell a lot of papers though. If you can't find her then pay it back, use her example to guide how you treat others. I suspect she'd appreciate that.
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The media will only share snippets that will just about enrage anyone without context. One YT channel that shifted my perspective was PoliceActivity. Most of their videos are full length showing multiple bodycam angles with some background information. It's insane how one moment a cop is having a normal exchange with a perp in a traffic stop, then in a split second perp pulls out their piece and starts blasting. Basically showing the perp wasn't the angel we were lead to believe, or how moronic aiming for the leg is. I saw a recent video in Texas where a cop did a full mag dump on a guy point blank and he survived. Whats nice is the channel doesn't discriminate either. It has a rude awakening for the believe all cops crowd too- by showing full incidents of some cops being idiots.

That 70 year old with a knife comment made earlier is dumb. No one knows whats going through someones mind or what they're capable of. What if the suicide is really an ambush? All it takes is one slash to your throat and you're bleeding out (thanks Liveleak).
Cops interact with people literally millions of times every single day in North America. The vast majority of those interactions are very routine, some get a ticket, others are filing a report, others asking directions or being given direction, some get arrested and most without incident. I was involved in a number of investigations of police shootings and we interviewed a psychologist who studied them. Her stats were something like less than 2% of police interactions result in a use of force, and less than 1% of use of force resulted in death. U of F isn't always consistently defined amongst police services, some include handcuffing, others define it as having to physically control a suspect but the fact is the numbers are very low.
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      12-06-2022, 12:56 PM   #7265
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Sedan_Clan Murf the Surf What do you guys think of SFPD's plan of using remote controlled robots armed with explosives?
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Old news.....

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...suspect-dallas
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Weird. I'm starting to see a lot of articles about it as if it's something new. Just read this morning that SF passed the use of the robots 8 votes to 3.
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San Francisco thinks that the technology/innovation world revolves around them.....
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San Francisco thinks that the technology/innovation world revolves around them.....
Ha! I could see that.
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      12-06-2022, 04:08 PM   #7270
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Sedan_Clan Murf the Surf What do you guys think of SFPD's plan of using remote controlled robots armed with explosives?
What could possibly go wrong?
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      12-06-2022, 04:14 PM   #7271
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Sedan_Clan Murf the Surf What do you guys think of SFPD's plan of using remote controlled robots armed with explosives?
We have bomb robots on my department as well. I would rather sacrifice a robot than one of my partners.
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We have bomb robots on my department as well. I would rather sacrifice a robot than one of my partners.
I could see the possible benefits. But I can also see a "this is why we can't have nice things" scenario playing out. Haha.
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We have bomb robots on my department as well. I would rather sacrifice a robot than one of my partners.
I don't think they're bomb squad robots. I think they're interdiction robots, like sending them in for domestic disputes. It is SF after all...
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Had to laugh at this one,a Florida shoplifter caught stealing from Walmart said he had a right b/c he 'owned' the chain.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/205029...-excuse-owner/
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Had to laugh at this one,a Florida shoplifter caught stealing from Walmart said he had a right b/c he 'owned' the chain.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/205029...-excuse-owner/
If the story starts with "A Florida man..." it could go in absolutely any direction. This story is proof.
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What could possibly go wrong?
It seems SFPD is backing off on this project.

https://torontosun.com/news/crime/am...-police-robots
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We have bomb robots on my department as well. I would rather sacrifice a robot than one of my partners.
I could see the possible benefits. But I can also see a "this is why we can't have nice things" scenario playing out. Haha.
That's hilarious! My lady says that all of the time.

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We have bomb robots on my department as well. I would rather sacrifice a robot than one of my partners.
I don't think they're bomb squad robots. I think they're interdiction robots, like sending them in for domestic disputes. It is SF after all...

San Francisco needs help. So much help!
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Apparently our department just received VR gear for taser shoot/don't training, and it includes a "public portal"

Guess who gets to try to not shoot some bad guys soon
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That's hilarious! My lady says that all of the time.




San Francisco needs help. So much help!
San Francisco needs an Enema.
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That's hilarious! My lady says that all of the time.




San Francisco needs help. So much help!
San Francisco needs an Enema.
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No, a flush.
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