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      08-07-2021, 12:49 PM   #23
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I'm in a similar situation having recently sold my '18 F80 comp. I test drove the C63 and while it looks and sounds great the ride was too stiff for my liking. Ride comfort is more of a priority this time around so I'm paying a lot of attention to that when shopping cars. I know the C43 exists but with no V8 it doesn't appeal to me as much. Waiting on the IS500 to release and see how I like it.

I think the G80 looks great and all but I'm ready for something different from the F80 I had. The G80 is pretty much the same formula just slightly improved.

I'm actually looking for a new RS5 sportback at the moment but there are few within a reasonable distance to me in the spec that I am looking for. And if there is one the stealerships aren't budging on price at the moment. Luckily I got nothing but time so I'm in no rush.
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I'm in a similar situation having recently sold my '18 F80 comp. I test drove the C63 and while it looks and sounds great the ride was too stiff for my liking. Ride comfort is more of a priority this time around so I'm paying a lot of attention to that when shopping cars. I know the C43 exists but with no V8 it doesn't appeal to me as much. Waiting on the IS500 to release and see how I like it.

I think the G80 looks great and all but I'm ready for something different from the F80 I had. The G80 is pretty much the same formula just slightly improved.

I'm actually looking for a new RS5 sportback at the moment but there are few within a reasonable distance to me in the spec that I am looking for. And if there is one the stealerships aren't budging on price at the moment. Luckily I got nothing but time so I'm in no rush.
Ride comfort is big on my list as well (relatively speaking for sporty cars). The RS5 Sportback is very comfortable when equipped with Dynamic Ride Control, which is part of the reason I ordered another one. The G80 felt firm but compliant and I think it would be comfy enough for me. I'll have to see what the C63 is like with the AMG sport seats. I'm thinking it may be a little too firm for daily duty.

Comfort is also why I started looking at the Macan Turbo, GLC63s, X3m Comp (not that comfortable), but I just don't know if I'll regret an SUV after a few months.
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I'm in a similar situation having recently sold my '18 F80 comp. I test drove the C63 and while it looks and sounds great the ride was too stiff for my liking. Ride comfort is more of a priority this time around so I'm paying a lot of attention to that when shopping cars. I know the C43 exists but with no V8 it doesn't appeal to me as much. Waiting on the IS500 to release and see how I like it.

I think the G80 looks great and all but I'm ready for something different from the F80 I had. The G80 is pretty much the same formula just slightly improved.

I'm actually looking for a new RS5 sportback at the moment but there are few within a reasonable distance to me in the spec that I am looking for. And if there is one the stealerships aren't budging on price at the moment. Luckily I got nothing but time so I'm in no rush.
Ride comfort is big on my list as well (relatively speaking for sporty cars). The RS5 Sportback is very comfortable when equipped with Dynamic Ride Control, which is part of the reason I ordered another one. The G80 felt firm but compliant and I think it would be comfy enough for me. I'll have to see what the C63 is like with the AMG sport seats. I'm thinking it may be a little too firm for daily duty.

Comfort is also why I started looking at the Macan Turbo, GLC63s, X3m Comp (not that comfortable), but I just don't know if I'll regret an SUV after a few months.
The AMG is stiff, probably as stiff as an F8X if you've driven one, although many owners say that deflating the tires a bit helps out as they come overinflated.

If SUV's are in the mix, the Macan GTS/Turbo is also an excellent pick, although they are better when custom ordered than found off the lot. GLC AMG is also a great choice, although will still be a bit stiff, although less than the C AMG. X3 M rides the worst of the bunch.

Macan and RS5 are probably the best choices still, although the RS5 is probably more practical than the Macan despite not being an SUV.
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The AMG is stiff, probably as stiff as an F8X if you've driven one, although many owners say that deflating the tires a bit helps out as they come overinflated.

If SUV's are in the mix, the Macan GTS/Turbo is also an excellent pick, although they are better when custom ordered than found off the lot. GLC AMG is also a great choice, although will still be a bit stiff, although less than the C AMG. X3 M rides the worst of the bunch.

Macan and RS5 are probably the best choices still, although the RS5 is probably more practical than the Macan despite not being an SUV.
I've test driven all of these as well and agree with you. The Macan GTS impressed me the most (as a package much like the RS5). It does a lot really really good, but nothing extraordinarily great. The downside is that it looks, for the most part, like every other base Macan that every soccer mom/dad in my neighborhood drives. I know it shouldn't matter, but I want something that looks some what special (the RS5 does its part to look more aggressive and special vs the S5 or A5).

Here is a demo GTS that I test drove and was considering as well...thoughts? Too plain Jane?

https://finder.porsche.com/ca/en_CA/...can-GTS-365222
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The AMG is stiff, probably as stiff as an F8X if you've driven one, although many owners say that deflating the tires a bit helps out as they come overinflated.

If SUV's are in the mix, the Macan GTS/Turbo is also an excellent pick, although they are better when custom ordered than found off the lot. GLC AMG is also a great choice, although will still be a bit stiff, although less than the C AMG. X3 M rides the worst of the bunch.

Macan and RS5 are probably the best choices still, although the RS5 is probably more practical than the Macan despite not being an SUV.
I've test driven all of these as well and agree with you. The Macan GTS impressed me the most (as a package much like the RS5). It does a lot really really good, but nothing extraordinarily great. The downside is that it looks, for the most part, like every other base Macan that every soccer mom/dad in my neighborhood drives. I know it shouldn't matter, but I want something that looks some what special (the RS5 does its part to look more aggressive and special vs the S5 or A5).

Here is a demo GTS that I test drove and was considering as well...thoughts? Too plain Jane?

https://finder.porsche.com/ca/en_CA/...can-GTS-365222
I like the understated looks. I'd probably do white with black rims. Although to stand out a bit, Guards Red, Miami Blue, and Mamaba Green can definitely help with that
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I have a Macan GTS for a daily and it’s great but the power is somewhat lacking. Very comfortable ride with the air suspension. Def get the full leather interior and 21” sport classic wheels if buying used, those are must have options IMO.

The Macan turbo with performance package is the best trim but extremely hard to find them in the first place. There’s usually only 1-2 for sale nationwide and often have stupidly high asking prices.

Overall I’d say it’s a great car if you have a second car to go with it for fun. As my only car I’d want something a little more powerful. Maybe check out a Range Rover SVR, those are awesome and very comfortable with amazing sound, looks, and performance.
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I have a Macan GTS for a daily and it’s great but the power is somewhat lacking. Very comfortable ride with the air suspension. Def get the full leather interior and 21” sport classic wheels if buying used, those are must have options IMO.

The Macan turbo with performance package is the best trim but extremely hard to find them in the first place. There’s usually only 1-2 for sale nationwide and often have stupidly high asking prices.

Overall I’d say it’s a great car if you have a second car to go with it for fun. As my only car I’d want something a little more powerful. Maybe check out a Range Rover SVR, those are awesome and very comfortable with amazing sound, looks, and performance.
I'm driving a 2020 Range Rover Velar right now and can't wait to get out of it. Not my cup of tea (no British pun intended). I know the SVR is a different beast but I'm still not a fan of the brand.
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      08-07-2021, 03:06 PM   #30
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One additional benefit of keeping the RS5 order is that I still have my $4.5k winter wheel and tire setup from my previous RS5. I know I could sell them but I definitely wouldn't even get half that cost back.
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Next year's Macan GTS gets the current Turbo motor, so it should be a good bit cheaper than the current Turbo. I think it's not out until Q1 though, may not help you.
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Next year's Macan GTS gets the current Turbo motor, so it should be a good bit cheaper than the current Turbo. I think it's not out until Q1 though, may not help you.
It's basically as expensive as the Turbo is now (the build site is already up in Canada). They just shifted the prices accordingly. Otherwise I would have jumped at a 2022 GTS (former Turbo) at a (former) GTS price.

They won't be out until Q2 in North America also.
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Yeah, you Canadians get updated pricing much quicker than we do down here.
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Since the G80 is not under consideration, I'm going to show my bias and parrot for the Giulia Quadrofoglio. Just give it a test drive, trust me. Your perception of handling and how fast a car can steer will change. It is a street legal go-kart. Interior is no Audi but was updated nicely for the 2020 refresh. Material and build quality are solid in the cabin, ride is compliant and livable. But keep in mind there is no AWD option or sunroof.

C63 is nice, but main novelty is the V8. Otherwise it's just an alright handling car. More of a straight-line brute. Unnecessarily stiff ride and you feel like you're sitting in a bathtub due to the high belt-line and dash.

On the topic of the Macan, I can rave all day as I do in other threads. I drive a family member's pretty frequently. However, I notice immediately once I get back into the Alfa that a CUV cannot replace a proper sport sedan if you truly want the most "connected" driving experience. Plus I agree with you that the Macan is extremely common. Everybody has one, you need to get it in a wild color to feel like you're driving something special.
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Since the G80 is not under consideration, I'm going to show my bias and parrot for the Giulia Quadrofoglio. Just give it a test drive, trust me. Your perception of handling and how fast a car can steer will change. It is a street legal go-kart. Interior is no Audi but was updated nicely for the 2020 refresh. Material and build quality are solid in the cabin, ride is compliant and livable. But keep in mind there is no AWD option or sunroof.

C63 is nice, but main novelty is the V8. Otherwise it's just an alright handling car. More of a straight-line brute. Unnecessarily stiff ride and you feel like you're sitting in a bathtub due to the high belt-line and dash.

On the topic of the Macan, I can rave all day as I do in other threads. I drive a family member's pretty frequently. However, I notice immediately once I get back into the Alfa that a CUV cannot replace a proper sport sedan if you truly want the most "connected" driving experience. Plus I agree with you that the Macan is extremely common. Everybody has one, you need to get it in a wild color to feel like you're driving something special.
The Giulia is one of the only in the class I haven't driven. I'll definitely give it a try!
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Comfort is also why I started looking at the Macan Turbo, GLC63s, X3m Comp (not that comfortable), but I just don't know if I'll regret an SUV after a few months.
I had a ‘18 SQ5 for 9 month which was very unusual because historically I have kept my cars anywhere from 3-8 years. And the SQ5 was a great SUV! Practical, smooth quiet ride (air suspension was great), looked and sounded good.. but you never forget you were in a SUV. The weight and top heaviness was always there. Make no mistake about it these sports SUV’s simply cannot replace sports sedans or sports cars. I had regret settle in a month after getting the SQ5 but mistakenly thought I would get used to it. Never did so sold it.
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I had a ‘18 SQ5 for 9 month which was very unusual because historically I have kept my cars anywhere from 3-8 years. And the SQ5 was a great SUV! Practical, smooth quiet ride (air suspension was great), looked and sounded good.. but you never forget you were in a SUV. The weight and top heaviness was always there. Make no mistake about it these sports SUV’s simply cannot replace sports sedans or sports cars. I had regret settle in a month after getting the SQ5 but mistakenly thought I would get used to it. Never did so sold it.
I feel like the same would happen with me as well. Plus we already have a Q7 for any "utility" needs. I've had the Range Rover for a month and I'm already bored of it (it's not terribly slow either, it's the supercharged V6 version...R Dynamic P340s).
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Not sure if it would fit in your budget due to US/Canada price discrepancy, but honestly forget the RS5 and get a CT5-V Blackwing. There will never be another RWD sedan with a 668 horsepower V8 and proper manual transmission.
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Not sure if it would fit in your budget due to US/Canada price discrepancy, but honestly forget the RS5 and get a CT5-V Blackwing. There will never be another RWD sedan with a 668 horsepower V8 and proper manual transmission.
Seems like a nice car, but I can't do GM. It's not a brand snob thing (since after all it's a Cadillac), but I just don't like their design whatsoever. Plus I need an automatic, I'd love a manual, but it has to be auto.
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I’d sit on the RS5 and wait for it. I’m in Texas however, so we don’t have winter to deal with. November will be here before we know it!
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I've decided to keep the RS5 order. There was a C63s sedan that was available now, and a G80 M3 Competition xDrive that would be arriving in a few weeks I could snag. At the end of the day, although both really nice (and better performance) options, they weren't exactly how I would factory build them and I think that would forever annoy me. The RS5 Sportback is exactly the options I want and undercuts both in price (not that price was tops on my list but it is a bonus). Thanks for all the suggestions, and now it's just a waiting game.
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