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      11-11-2020, 09:45 AM   #89
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Just checked BMW IG and i have not seen even one positive comment. 99.9% of ppl are telling them to fire the design team 😂

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It's a benchmark because it was done. I can appreciate you don't need it or want it, but for me, after doing 3 seconds to 60 in my my F90 M5, I don't want to go back to a 4 or 5 seconds to 62 car. I would prefer faster. Just like I don't want to go back to owning a car without navigation, or a car with the basic sound system.

Plus it doesn't go 350-360 miles. It's range is said to be 300. So it's slower and the range is less.
Do you really use the useless Navigation in your car? Google maps is free and much "better".
Yeah I prefer in car so I don't have to touch my phone. True it is better but navigation is much more convenient and safer to use voice commands
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It's a benchmark because it was done. I can appreciate you don't need it or want it, but for me, after doing 3 seconds to 60 in my my F90 M5, I don't want to go back to a 4 or 5 seconds to 62 car. I would prefer faster. Just like I don't want to go back to owning a car without navigation, or a car with the basic sound system.

Plus it doesn't go 350-360 miles. It's range is said to be 300. So it's slower and the range is less.
Would you buy an E63 AMG if it did 0-60 in 2.7secs versus your M5 at 2.9?
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really attractive actually - inside and out.
the large vertical grille works well in the SAV execution.
very interested to drive it.
BMW appears to have nailed this one.
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Wow! I quite like it especially the interior
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It's a benchmark because it was done. I can appreciate you don't need it or want it, but for me, after doing 3 seconds to 60 in my my F90 M5, I don't want to go back to a 4 or 5 seconds to 62 car. I would prefer faster. Just like I don't want to go back to owning a car without navigation, or a car with the basic sound system.

Plus it doesn't go 350-360 miles. It's range is said to be 300. So it's slower and the range is less.
Would you buy an E63 AMG if it did 0-60 in 2.7secs versus your M5 at 2.9?
No. I don't like Merc. Same goes for Tesla. The quality sucks. I do like Porsche, and some Audi but I just wish BMW would do better.

I.e., the i8 was a magnificent vehicle, if it came out in 2010. At the time of its debut and during its short run the performance didn't match the look. Not that it wasn't a great vehicle, but it was too slow.

The first generation i3 was also slow and the range really sucked compared to what else you could get out there. Now in 2022, BMW is releasing their next generation of EVs and its better than previous generation, but now it's at the level it should have been in 2014. Just my opinion.

Look, I still like it minus the grill, and the quality of materials and workmanship is going to be very high I expect, but for me I wish BMW would do better. Most generations last about 7 years so this car will be available until 2028/2029. Can you imagine in 2029 only getting 300 miles in your EV and only getting 5 seconds to 62mph?
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      11-11-2020, 10:07 AM   #98
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Yeah I prefer in car so I don't have to touch my phone. True it is better but navigation is much more convenient and safer to use voice commands
Your phone can do voice commands better than your car.


However, I don't think it would be important to me if my car does 0-60 in 2.9 or 3.1 second, but that's just me.
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And the reason for the grill this time is... air intake?
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0-60 in 5s is pretty weak for an electric car. I don't know how you compete with Tesla when performance is one of the biggest reasons many folks would consider electric.
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      11-11-2020, 10:18 AM   #101
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I'm pretty underwhelmed at the performance and range. I do like the interior with the exception of the steering wheel. It appears someone left it in the oven for too long. The front is awful but I do like the rest of the exterior.

In the market for an electric car, but I'm not sure this is going to be it for me. Not unless the price makes this more compelling.
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Can't wait to see it in some other colors, hopefully Phytonic Blue or a similar variant. Depending on the price, I will probably end up getting it, hoping for something closer to the X5 price range than the X7 scale. Like others have said, 300-ish mile range will be more than enough for me, my daily commute is around 50 round trip with free charging at work (been great for my 530e), and longer trips we stop every 1.5-2 hours anyway so it won't be an issue other than having to plan out where we will be stopping. I like the exterior design, interior will take some getting used to. I'll be interested to see how well the electrochromic roof does at keeping out heat, here in the south that can be a challenge in the summer months. Was hoping reports of a fall 2021 launch were accurate, but looks like I'll have to wait even longer
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Why do car companies make their electric cars so fkn ugly? Im not talking about an electric version of a gas model, but their purely electric only vehicles....

I cant even decide which is more trash - this, or the tesla suv.

Prius really set the bar super low
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Just checked BMW IG and i have not seen even one positive comment. 99.9% of ppl are telling them to fire the design team 😂

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CHc5HqO...=1pkx5z2s0msh8
Very few positive comments on FB, both BMW global and BMWUSA.
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ynguldyn wrote in November 2018: "If you want a clean sheet BEV, you'll have to wait for the I20. How closely the iNext concept reflects that future production car remains to be seen."
Of course, it's unclear what "clean sheet" means in comparison to the current and future CLAR and/or whether the iX sits on a bespoke platform. But it sounds like the iX is much more removed from the X5/X7 than the iX3/i4 are from their respective twin brothers/sisters (not least due to the unique body style).
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Yes. It's just that the eventuality you mention is a reality already for some other players. So there's significant value in understanding how far the iX has moved the ball.
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BMW is now relying on its own e-car platform
BMW is changing its electric strategy and is now developing its own electric drive platform. Works council chief Manfred Schoch, who had already requested this in the summer, prevails. The new platform is to be used in the new plant in Hungary after 2025.
BMW boss Oliver Zipse now wants to develop an electric platform.
BMW is moving away from its strategy of building all drives on the same platform and is now developing its own electrical architecture. "We will realign our vehicle architecture from the middle of the decade," announced CEO Oliver Zipse on Wednesday when the quarterly figures were presented . "Our new cluster architecture is geared towards electric drives." It will be used for the first time in the new plant in Hungary after 2025. "Our new plant in Hungary plays a key role here. The new BEV-centered architecture will start there from the middle of this decade."
"The aim is to create an overall optimum with the new architecture," added Zipse. Until now, BMW had relied on building all drives on one platform and then assembling the models on the same belt. This should make it possible to react flexibly to demand.
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In particular, the company's own works council had already called for the development of its own electric drive platform in the summer. "We can only fully exploit the advantages of an electric vehicle with our own e-architecture," said Works Council Chairman Manfred Schoch at the time. With the flexible architecture now in place for all drives, too many compromises would simply have to be made. "An e-platform would be urgently needed for BMW in order not to be overtaken by competitors from California or China."
Now Zipse is even making the topic a top priority. A new department has now been established for the development of the new e-platform. "This area reports directly to me," emphasized Zipse. "He is organizationally networked with all departments - markets, finance, procurement, development, production and sales. That gives us more control and makes us much faster - also when working with partners."
The new architecture will be used for the first time in the plant in Debrecen, Hungary, and the BMW will be newly constructed there. It will then be rolled out across the group. "The factory in Hungary will be the first to produce the architecture," said Zipse. "After that, the other locations will gradually be designed accordingly."
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"The renewal of our platforms is due in any case from 2025", Zipse justified the decision. That is why it was decided not to simply extend the previous one, but to develop a new one that is specifically geared towards the requirements of electric cars. "We're developing a new architecture that assumes that the majority of cars built on this platform will be electric." The aim is to replace all current models with successors on the new platform "from 2025 to the middle of the next decade".
The new platform - Zipse prefers to speak of an "architecture" - is not being developed exclusively for e-cars. Zipse also wants to continue building combustion engines on the same platform. The focus in development is now on the electric car. "Of course, electrification will have a larger share here," said Zipse. "But the logic that we currently have with the Power of Choice approach is that we can offer every customer the drive they want, this approach will be retained."
Department established in July
"We expect that the demand for fully electric vehicles will continue to increase significantly from 2025 onwards. Exactly then - keyword timing - we will ignite phase three of our transformation," said Zipse. At the same time, he defended the previous approach: "For the current phase of our transformation up to 2025, the BMW Group is exactly right and robustly positioned: Our share of e-mobility is growing with maximum flexibility in production."
The department for the development of the new e-architecture was founded in July, according to the development director Frank Weber. So far, it has only been a "very small force preparing it".
Strategic swing indicated in July
"With our products and technologies, we are well positioned for the next few years," said Zipse. "This is what we want to be from the middle of the decade, when the conditions on the market have developed further. That is why we are already developing solutions for the period after 2025 and 2030. In our industry, timing is decisive in order to fully exploit the respective possibilities and to be able to invest specifically in the future at the same time.
Zipse had already indicated in July that the strategy could be changed. The next generation is thinking about switching to a pure e-platform, he said at the time when he presented his "Sustainability 2030" strategy. But that won't happen until 2026 at the earliest. At the same time he had defended the previous strategy. "We are well positioned for the next few years."
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Why is the charging door in the rear on the right side???
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I thought there was always some dept that approved pedestrian impact safety? That grill looks like it'll just suck someone right into it, not deflect anyone...
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Not the worst BMW ever, but it makes the top 3!

The interior is interesting though, but is this production spec? iDrive and instrument cluster looks very different and interesting
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Look, I still like it minus the grill, and the quality of materials and workmanship is going to be very high I expect, but for me I wish BMW would do better. Most generations last about 7 years so this car will be available until 2028/2029. Can you imagine in 2029 only getting 300 miles in your EV and only getting 5 seconds to 62mph?
For what it’s worth, the i3 has nearly doubled its range since launch (from around 80mi to 150 currently). I would assume they’re going to regularly make updates to this model as well.
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Looks kinda like an XL hatch. Not exactly my cup of tea but it might look good in black/shadowline.
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