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Look what Mercedes Benz is doing to up theirs. 2020 Mercedes-AMG CLA45 has 382 hp and a rear-wheel-drive drift mode. https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2...g-cla45-debut/
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LOL!! Leave it to Toyota to build a Z4 coupe!
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I guess that's the perk of getting a head start on BMW in regards to building mass appeal FWD econoboxes. |
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I'll be the first to complain about how much BMW has sold out over this decade.
But unlike Cadillac during its downfall, BMW still has a very strong brand perception especially with the younger generations. Cadillac was hitting its sales targets but it was universally viewed as a geezer's car.
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Lower than Toyota Mercedes and MCDONALDS! Lol
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It's ridiculous...BMW improved over the last two years and reached its highest ranking ever in Interbrand but what we read most on this thread are negative comments by a fair number of its "fans" who are whining about the company's direction such as entering the FWD market which is a segment that doesn't even concern them. Merc's introduction of its FWD CLA sedan in 2013 was a massive success. The company stated that it was their best launch in 20 years. Audi was smart enough not to miss out on this opportunity and launched their A3 sedan. Needless to say it was a hit. BMW is only 7 years late. It doesn't take a business degree to understand that pursue growth, a company needs to evolve, diversify its line of products to enter new markets (hybrid, EV, FWD, etc). Keep in mind that the electrification costs and the tariffs are hurting the company's bottom line. As long as BMW continues to make cars aimed for enthusiasts ie M2, M4 and others, it makes perfect business sense for BMW to move forward and expand. 11th place is worth applauding. |
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I wanted an S5 Sportback. Ended up with a coupe because the Coupes had a significant discount on them. The Sportback is selling like hotcakes.
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well, BMW already said the 2 series coupe will be RWD based platform, also BMW sells 2.5mm vehicle a year, it's mass market by most measure to start with
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Do you not see the irony in what you just said? Please go read the threads about the new 2GC and come back here. BMW management is keenly aware they need to adapt to stay relevant (carbon fiber, electric, crossovers, all wheel drive or wrong wheel drive, etc.). They ARE reinventing themselves, just so BMW customers can say "they need to reinvent themselves or risk obsolescence" and then spew 11 pages of hatred on a blog because "HOW DARE BMW COME OUT WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I GREW UP LIKING!!!"
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If you want evidence, look no further than the G80 M3. AWD paired with a ZF automatic.. |
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stickshift is it not? BMW is offering additional drivetrain and transmission options/choices for consumers and that's a good thing. My philosophy is simple, keep your loyal purists and enthusiasts happy but strategically and carefully grow the brand by entering new markets. I believe this is what BMW is doing. A company either evolves or follows the path of the dinosaurs. |
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