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      02-19-2019, 02:40 PM   #463
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Bring on the M2 gran coupe!

Can't wait for that to be released...
You do realise, IF that happens, the M2 GC will have a 2.0L 4cyl and xdrive only.
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This car would have made perfect sense if it was RWD. That way BMW would have the FWD 1er sedan, for people that want a more practical compact sedan, and the 2er GC would be for people that are more interested in driving dynamics, even if it costs a little extra over the 1er, but don't want a car as big as the new 3er. Keeping the RWD platform would have opened the 2er GC to 6-cyl engines, which I'm sure would've been appreciated as well.

As it is, there's just too much overlap between the 1er sedan and this 2er GC.
There is only overlap if both are available. The 1er sedan is only sold in China and Mexico AFAIK, and I doubt it will ever be released in Europe or North America.
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Ohhh wrong hood line placement..... AGAIN!

It seemed to have been fixed with the G-Series.... but now it seems that the FWD G-Series will retain that awful hood line. Audi also makes FWDs but doesn’t end its hood in the middle of nowhere!
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Anyone else want to see an M2 GC or maybe an X2 M??
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Anyone else want to see an M2 GC or maybe an X2 M??
That's an old, dead thread...
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Anyone else want to see an M2 GC or maybe an X2 M??
I don't wanna see an X2 let alone an X2M
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Anyone else want to see an M2 GC or maybe an X2 M??
An M2GC?

Might as well just rebadge a Camry Sport.
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An M2GC?

Might as well just rebadge a Camry Sport.
M2GC

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Ohhh wrong hood line placement..... AGAIN!

It seemed to have been fixed with the G-Series.... but now it seems that the FWD G-Series will retain that awful hood line. Audi also makes FWDs but doesn’t end its hood in the middle of nowhere!
This is an F-series; the F44.
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Looks the size of the ole e90, the good part.
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Looks great!
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Looks like a Mazda 3.
But the Mazda 3 isn't RWD.
This is FWD! It's just a BMW badge on a revisited Mini platform. It's basically a BMW Jetta. An abomination really.
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You do realise, IF that happens, the M2 GC will have a 2.0L 4cyl and xdrive only.
2.0L 4cyl pumping out 350 HP would be nice. Include the xdrive layout and 6-speed tranny, we now have an Audi RS3 and CLA45 AMG fighter. I could also throw the WRX Sti in the mix, but in terms of luxury and refinement Subaru doesn't stand a chance to its German rivals.
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You do realise, IF that happens, the M2 GC will have a 2.0L 4cyl and xdrive only.
2.0L 4cyl pumping out 350 HP would be nice. Include the xdrive layout and 6-speed tranny, we now have an Audi RS3 and CLA45 AMG fighter. I could also throw the WRX Sti in the mix, but in terms of luxury and refinement Subaru doesn't stand a chance to its German rivals.
BMW would have to make atleast a 400hp 4cyl M2 GC to compete with the next CLA45 and RS3. It's about time they make a powerful 4cyl. The B48 is a good base engine for them to make a S48. But I doubt it will ever be as good as a 6cyl S55 in the M2 Competition.
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Looks like a Mazda 3.
But the Mazda 3 isn't RWD.
This is FWD! It's just a BMW badge on a revisited Mini platform. It's basically a BMW Jetta. An abomination really.
A LOT of abominations out of Munich the last few years.
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BMW would have to make atleast a 400hp 4cyl M2 GC to compete with the next CLA45 and RS3. It's about time they make a powerful 4cyl. The B48 is a good base engine for them to make a S48. But I doubt it will ever be as good as a 6cyl S55 in the M2 Competition.
People already crash their F8x cars too much because they can't handle the low end torque from the turbo.

When that turbo in the 's48' hits you along with that short wheelbase of the 2series it'll be a real nice surprise.
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People already crash their F8x cars too much because they can't handle the low end torque from the turbo.

When that turbo in the 's48' hits you along with that short wheelbase of the 2series it'll be a real nice surprise.
It's not going to be RWD. You don't see people crashing their RS3 because they can't handle the torque.
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Looks like a Mazda 3.
But the Mazda 3 isn't RWD.
This is FWD! It's just a BMW badge on a revisited Mini platform. It's basically a BMW Jetta. An abomination really.
A LOT of abominations out of Munich the last few years.
Agree. Sad state of affairs...
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It's not going to be RWD. You don't see people crashing their RS3 because they can't handle the torque.
im out of the loop. No rwd at all for the next 2 series?
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Looks like a Mazda 3.
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This is FWD! It's just a BMW badge on a revisited Mini platform. It's basically a BMW Jetta. An abomination really.
A LOT of abominations out of Munich the last few years.
Agree. Sad state of affairs...
There is a BMWyota out there in the wild. If that doesn't tell you something.

It's almost as bad as the Saabaru
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It's not going to be RWD. You don't see people crashing their RS3 because they can't handle the torque.
im out of the loop. No rwd at all for the next 2 series?
The F44 2er Gran Coupe and 1er Sedan will be FWD/AWD. While the G42 2er Coupe is rumored to be RWD and should look drastically different to the gran coupe. No spyshots of the G42 yet to prove though.
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Is there any other brand that just completely poops all over a model designation as thoroughly as BMW?

A 2 series can be:

A weird Minivan sort of thing 2AT
A fwd sedan with a hatch, that they call a coupe 2GC
An actual coupe that's rwd and can even be an M car 230i, M240i and M2C
A rwd soft top convertible too

All that's missing is a panel van
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