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      01-15-2018, 07:58 AM   #111
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This thread is irrelevant now since every model BMW sells is an M now.

M is so diluted, BMW is going to have to create a replacement.
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This thread is irrelevant now since every model BMW sells is an M now.

M is so diluted, BMW is going to have to create a replacement.
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There's a lady in my area that drives a 440i. She purchased all the M Performance parts from the dealer then put the M badge in front of the 440i and on the fenders. When I asked her about the badge, she said it's because it's now an M440i since she added all M parts, lol. She was dead serious, too.
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There's a lady in my area that drives a 440i. She purchased all the M Performance parts from the dealer then put the M badge in front of the 440i and on the fenders. When I asked her about the badge, she said it's because it's now an M440i since she added all M parts, lol. She was dead serious, too.
SMH...but if you think about it her logic could make sense, sort of like Dinan you need XX amount of points to receive a badge lol
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This thread is irrelevant now since every model BMW sells is an M now.

M is so diluted, BMW is going to have to create a replacement.
why its diluted?
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why its diluted?
Because you can basically get any series with an M badge on it because it has an M package. Slap some M door sills and different suspension and it is magically an M car.
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Because you can basically get any series with an M badge on it because it has an M package. Slap some M door sills and different suspension and it is magically an M car.
It has been that way for along time and the ///M brand wasn't diluted. My 1986 325es had several ///M logos on it from the factory. Nobody ever mistook it for an E30 M3 nor was it even close. My 2001 Z3 3.0 has several ///M badges on it from the factory. Nobody thinks it is an M Roadster. Doesn't dilute the brand. Do I think people should put ///M badges that don't come from the factory on their cars. No - that is fake.
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It has been that way for along time and the ///M brand wasn't diluted. My 1986 325es had several ///M logos on it from the factory. Nobody ever mistook it for an E30 M3 nor was it even close. My 2001 Z3 3.0 has several ///M badges on it from the factory. Nobody thinks it is an M Roadster. Doesn't dilute the brand. Do I think people should put ///M badges that don't come from the factory on their cars. No - that is fake.
I would have liked to see an M badge on your F-4.
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I would have liked to see an M badge on your F-4.
Okay - here you go.

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But does it have twin dual exhausts?
Nope - just dual exhausts

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Because you can basically get any series with an M badge on it because it has an M package. Slap some M door sills and different suspension and it is magically an M car.
M badged car and an M car is a different thing and everyone who needs to know the difference knows it.. at the corner or at straight line becomes obvious for everyone..
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It has been that way for along time and the ///M brand wasn't diluted. My 1986 325es had several ///M logos on it from the factory. Nobody ever mistook it for an E30 M3 nor was it even close. My 2001 Z3 3.0 has several ///M badges on it from the factory. Nobody thinks it is an M Roadster. Doesn't dilute the brand. Do I think people should put ///M badges that don't come from the factory on their cars. No - that is fake.
Are you sure those weren't dealer fitted?
Ive seen a lot of z3 3.0i's but never one that claimed to have m badges factory fitted.
325es I've never seen as I think thats fitted with a restricted/detuned US only engine? (compared to the 325i)

Imho this is different to the current situation where bmw's with 'm style' accesoiries are fitted with m badges and launched at international motorshows this way (for instance a 218d active tourer FWD minimpv's fitted with m badges on international motorshows on display).
That kind of dillution wasnt there in the 80's
Back then you could have a m535i.
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^ and still no LSD?
(in contrary to that z3 3.0i that I believe had an LSD factory fitted?)
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Are you sure those weren't dealer fitted?
Ive seen a lot of z3 3.0i's but never one that claimed to have m badges factory fitted.
325es I've never seen as I think thats fitted with a restricted/detuned US only engine? (compared to the 325i)

Imho this is different to the current situation where bmw's with 'm style' accesoiries are fitted with m badges and launched at international motorshows this way (for instance a 218d active tourer FWD minimpv's fitted with m badges on international motorshows on display).
That kind of dillution wasnt there in the 80's
Back then you could have a m535i.
I don't have the 325es anymore so can only show pictures of what it had. This is the steering wheel and shit knob.

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Thats an M shiftknob and m steering wheel.
Seperately purchaced or option ticked parts.
It's basically ordering a z3 and pay for fitting an z3m steering wheel.
So its something you've asked$paid for. Indeed bmw has been doing that for a long time.
So its not really fitting m badges, but equipping the car with parts meant for an m (but usually they were listed in the brochure, often even before the m version was available. In the e30's days they had a whole line of parts called 'M technic' I think, but as far as parts bolted on the outside I think those never were fitted with m badges like they are now)

I tought you had like a base model where bmw just put m badges on (so on the outside at the type badge)
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Thats an M shiftknob and m steering wheel.
Seperately purchaced or option ticked parts.
It's basically ordering a z3 and pay for fitting an z3m steering wheel.
So its something you've asked$paid for. Indeed bmw has been doing that for a long time.
So its not really fitting m badges, but equipping the car with parts meant for an m (but usually they were listed in the brochure, often even before the m version was available. In the e30's days they had a whole line of parts called 'M technic' I think)
That is wrong!! I ordered my Z3 and am the only owner. The steering wheel and shift knob came on the 3.0i with the sport seats. The parts on my 325es, which I also purchase new, came that way on the es model (not 325e). No extra $$$, no extra parts. I know what I bought.
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That is wrong!! I ordered my Z3 and am the only owner. The steering wheel and shift knob came on the 3.0i with the sport seats. The parts on my 325es, which I also purchase new, came that way on the es model (not 325e). No extra $$$, no extra parts. I know what I bought.
can be a different between EU spec and US spec..
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