F1 2024: Dutch GP - Zandvoort (Aug 25)

fs1977 · 08-23-2024, 04:03 AM

Slowly starting to get really excited for this race! For me it's totally unclear how the dice will role after the summerbrake. So no predictions what so ever. Could be anyone driving a McLaren, Mercedes or Red Bull. Mayby even Ferarri can get in the mix.

M5Rick · 08-23-2024, 08:46 AM

It's FP1 gone and as expected it's MAX vs LAN with PER having a lot to do before FP2 in about an hour.
MAX was saying that he would have had a good chance to win at Spa if it wasn't for the 10 grid penalty (from pole) for his fifth new engine there, going back to having his Montreal engine sidelined with a fault which is still not known what it was. As such it raises my hopes for him at his 'home' race to which he has a clean record of winning.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...4yFmgfqeFGzyfs

M5Rick · 08-23-2024, 08:53 AM

Good news for the Aussie! Just heard Doohan signed for 2025 Alpine team to partner Gasly.
Link
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...8EMU8XdSeVi2lp

M5Rick · 08-23-2024, 09:10 AM

Meanwhile Antonelli is still waiting for Wolff *yawn yawn* to tell him he has a contract for next year, probably still dreaming of MAX and watching for shooting stars at night.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...UCLr2gwg6jcVR5

AmuroRay · 08-23-2024, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Meanwhile Antonelli is still waiting for Wolff *yawn yawn* to tell him he has a contract for next year, probably still dreaming of MAX and watching for shooting stars at night.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...UCLr2gwg6jcVR5

The noncommittal stance on Kimi tells me he isn't ready.

M5Rick · 08-23-2024, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AmuroRay

The noncommittal stance on Kimi tells me he isn't ready.

Time will tell, he currently stands 7th in the points in his F2 championship and can't wait to get that FP ride in Hamilton's car at Monza.

AmuroRay · 08-23-2024, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Time will tell, he currently stands 7th in the points in his F2 championship and can't wait to get that FP ride in Hamiltons car at Monza.

We know Toto wants Max and is holding out hope lol

GuidoK · 08-23-2024, 10:54 AM

It looks like both team MERC and McLaren are very very strong on Zandvoort.
Of course this is FP, but still...
I don't think RB has brought any significant upgrades.

RUS and PIA are already almost on the pole time of last year, so they've probably gained 1,5sec or so on last year. Tomorrow will tell

AmuroRay · 08-23-2024, 11:14 AM

Man, it's crazy how a few upgrades made Lando and Oscar better drivers than Max. Clearly they have matured in their role.

///M Power-Belgium · 08-23-2024, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Time will tell, he currently stands 7th in the points in his F2 championship and can't wait to get that FP ride in Hamilton's car at Monza.

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///M Power-Belgium · 08-23-2024, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

It looks like both team MERC and McLaren are very very strong on Zandvoort.
Of course this is FP, but still...
I don't think RB has brought any significant upgrades.

RUS and PIA are already almost on the pole time of last year, so they've probably gained 1,5sec or so on last year. Tomorrow will tell

The RB20 upgrades work like downgrades ..

All the RB20 upgrades have been removed (!)
The RB20 is not going to improve any further in this season .

Pierre Waché : We reached the limit with the RB20 and we need a complete new car for the 2025 season.

Hopefully MAX can minimize the cars performance disadvantage with the MAX-Factor .
I think the situation at Red Bull looks very bad ...

TheBingoBalls · 08-23-2024, 12:14 PM

Ferrari is fking killing me man…how can a team have this much s—t luck..

AmuroRay · 08-23-2024, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The RB20 upgrades work like downgrades ..

All the RB20 upgrades have been removed (!)
The RB20 is not going to improve any further in this season .

Pierre Waché : We reached the limit with the RB20 and we need a complete new car for the 2025 season.

Hopefully MAX can minimize the cars performance disadvantage with the MAX-Factor .
I think the situation at Red Bull looks very bad ...

The Redbull is roughly even with the McLaren and Mercedes. Instead of having a rocketship from last season where even Checo who is barely average can gap the grid, they actually have to race.

It's crazy that taking away the car advantage made Max less than mortal.

GuidoK · 08-23-2024, 12:34 PM

Apparently former main sponsor Uralkali has legally seized all cars and equipment of the Haas racing team in the Netherlands.
So apparently the cars etc can't leave the country after the race.
Uralkali is the company of Mazepin's dad...
Apparently a swiss court judged last june that Haas had to pay back about €9million in sponsorship money.

I wonder what will actually happen monday...

///M Power-Belgium · 08-23-2024, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AmuroRay

The Redbull is roughly even with the McLaren and Mercedes. Instead of having a rocketship from last season where even Checo who is barely average can gap the grid, they actually have to race.

It's crazy that taking away the car advantage made Max less than mortal.

Very strange opinions from your side (as usual)

You know very well the RB20 has a design flaw from day one in this season . In other words : The RB20 s@cks (!)

MAX will be immortal in the F1 history .

AmuroRay · 08-23-2024, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Very strange opinions from your side (as usual)

You know very well the RB20 has a design flaw from day one in this season . In other words : The RB20 s@cks (!)

MAX will be immortal in the F1 history .

It sucks so much that Max won 10 races this season? And now that cars are less than a 2tenths apart he struggles.

M5Rick · 08-23-2024, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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Tomorrow will be a rain and wind nightmare all day here same as up there in NW NL.

Killed by Death · 08-23-2024, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Apparently former main sponsor Uralkali has legally seized all cars and equipment of the Haas racing team in the Netherlands.
So apparently the cars etc can't leave the country after the race.
Uralkali is the company of Mazepin's dad...
Apparently a swiss court judged last june that Haas had to pay back about €9million in sponsorship money.

I wonder what will actually happen monday...

Killed by Death · 08-23-2024, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Good news for the Aussie! Just heard Doohan signed for 2025 Alpine team to partner Gasly.
Link
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...8EMU8XdSeVi2lp

So, are there any actual Alpine fans in here

GuidoK · 08-23-2024, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

So, are there any actual Alpine fans in here

I applaude any new fresh talent in F1

There are too many drivers past their expiration date....

///M Power-Belgium · 08-23-2024, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AmuroRay

It sucks so much that Max won 10 races this season? And now that cars are less than a 2tenths apart he struggles.

Mate . I really wonder if you watch the races ?

So far , MAX won 7 races in this 2024 season .

AmuroRay · 08-23-2024, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

So, are there any actual Alpine fans in here

The French :Yawn:

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Mate . I really wonder if you watch the races ?

So far , MAX won 7 races in this 2024 season .

:Yawn: Max won 7 races by like 10 seconds, and as soon as the field narrows to tenths he struggles. Checo suddenly starts doing poorly when the competition catches up and we blame him for being slow - he always was, and just had a HUGE car advantage.

Looking forward to Lando winning it this year being mediocre.

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M5Rick General 68459 Rep 22,054 Posts Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	It's FP1 gone and as expected it's MAX vs LAN with PER having a lot to do before FP2 in about an hour. MAX was saying that he would have had a good chance to win at Spa if it wasn't for the 10 grid penalty (from pole) for his fifth new engine there, going back to having his Montreal engine sidelined with a fault which is still not known what it was. As such it raises my hopes for him at his 'home' race to which he has a clean record of winning. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...4yFmgfqeFGzyfs
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M5Rick General 68459 Rep 22,054 Posts Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	Good news for the Aussie! Just heard Doohan signed for 2025 Alpine team to partner Gasly. Link https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...8EMU8XdSeVi2lp
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M5Rick General 68459 Rep 22,054 Posts Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	Meanwhile Antonelli is still waiting for Wolff yawn yawn to tell him he has a contract for next year, probably still dreaming of MAX and watching for shooting stars at night. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...UCLr2gwg6jcVR5
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GuidoK #buildnotbought 13343 Rep 5,425 Posts Drives: Z4 3.0i ESS TS2+ Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Tinkering in the garage iTrader: (0)	It looks like both team MERC and McLaren are very very strong on Zandvoort. Of course this is FP, but still... I don't think RB has brought any significant upgrades. RUS and PIA are already almost on the pole time of last year, so they've probably gained 1,5sec or so on last year. Tomorrow will tell __________________ Z4 3.0i \| ESS TS2+ supercharger \| Quaife ATB LSD \| Brembo/BMW performance BBK front/rear \| Schrick FI cams \| Schmiedmann headers+cats \| Powerflex/strongflex PU bushings \| Vibra-technics engine mounts \| H&R anti rollbars \| KW V3 coilovers/KW camber plates \| Sachs race engineering clutch \| tons of custom sh#t Last edited by GuidoK; 08-23-2024 at 11:00 AM..
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GuidoK #buildnotbought 13343 Rep 5,425 Posts Drives: Z4 3.0i ESS TS2+ Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Tinkering in the garage iTrader: (0)	Apparently former main sponsor Uralkali has legally seized all cars and equipment of the Haas racing team in the Netherlands. So apparently the cars etc can't leave the country after the race. Uralkali is the company of Mazepin's dad... Apparently a swiss court judged last june that Haas had to pay back about €9million in sponsorship money. I wonder what will actually happen monday... __________________ Z4 3.0i \| ESS TS2+ supercharger \| Quaife ATB LSD \| Brembo/BMW performance BBK front/rear \| Schrick FI cams \| Schmiedmann headers+cats \| Powerflex/strongflex PU bushings \| Vibra-technics engine mounts \| H&R anti rollbars \| KW V3 coilovers/KW camber plates \| Sachs race engineering clutch \| tons of custom sh#t
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