F1 2022: Bahrain GP - Sakhir (March 20)

M5Rick · 03-11-2022, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fliplegend

Love how so many in the paddock are freaking out and some well known whiners are whining. Merc knows how to come out strong after major rule changes. Besides them in 2014, who else did their homework for new regs, oh, Brawn!

Merc started building hybrid years before anyone from as far back as 2007.

M5Rick · 03-11-2022, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by F87source

Williams rear brakes caught fire and it caused latifi to spin off. Session is red flagged, but there doesn't appear to be much if any damage.

edit- damage might be worse than initially expected.

It was more than little damage if he didn't make it back to the pits.

Fliplegend · 03-11-2022, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Merc started building hybrid years before anyone from as far back as 2007.

Doesn't really matter. When the hybrid era began, they are the ONLY ones that got it right. For years, everyone played catch up which allowed merc to push their thermal efficiency over 50%.

What's even more comical is Renault whining about needing to go hybrid in F1 and when the rules changed like they wanted, they were garbage.

3798j · 03-11-2022, 09:46 AM

Then added to the well known Karens of Formula 1, we have the well known whiners and what-about-ers who post here.

M5Rick · 03-11-2022, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fliplegend

Doesn't really matter. When the hybrid era began, they are the ONLY ones that got it right. For years, everyone played catch up which allowed merc to push their thermal efficiency over 50%.

What's even more comical is Renault whining about needing to go hybrid in F1 and when the rules changed like they wanted, they were garbage.

Oh it does,a lot. The late Lauda told Montezemolo that Merc were building a hybrid in 2007 then twisted FIA's arm to bring it in from the '14 season on 'green grounds'. Probably the biggest swindle in f1 history.

Killed by Death · 03-11-2022, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fliplegend

...What's even more comical is Renault whining about needing to go hybrid in F1 and when the rules changed like they wanted, they were garbage.

Even worse, Ferrari has veto power and let the turbo hybrid proceed,,,Idiots

https://jalopnik.com/why-the-ferrari...-ru-1823762305

Fliplegend · 03-11-2022, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Probably the biggest swindle in f1 history.

Until Abu Dhabi last year.

Fliplegend · 03-11-2022, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Even worse, Ferrari has veto power and let the turbo hybrid proceed,,,Idiots

https://jalopnik.com/why-the-ferrari...-ru-1823762305

Their success with Schumi made them think they can hang with MB. Just imagine if the crash in LeMans didn't make MB leave the sport, Ferrari's legacy would be overshadowed.

Killed by Death · 03-11-2022, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Fliplegend

Their success with Schumi made them think they can hang with MB. Just imagine if the crash in LeMans didn't make MB leave the sport, Ferrari's legacy would be overshadowed.

That's always been Ferrari's problem. They think they are smarter than everyone else. Hence the smirk on Binotto's face prior to pre-season testing

irunalot · 03-11-2022, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

It was more than little damage if he didn't make it back to the pits.

It melted the suspension
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/wi...utm_content=uk

Killed by Death · 03-11-2022, 10:13 AM

It's not whining, Ferrari & others have a legitimate argument. Too break it down:

If it walks like a duck & quacks like a duck it's a duck.

If it looks like a wing & performs like a wing it's a wing.

MBs mirror mounts break the spirt and letter of the regulations. In fairness, MB isn't doing anything wrong but the FIA should have axed the design upon its submission.

NYG · 03-11-2022, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

It's not whining, Ferrari & others have a legitimate argument. Too break it down:

If it walks like a duck & quacks like a duck it's a duck.

If it looks like a wing & performs like a wing it's a wing.

MBs mirror mounts break the spirt and letter of the regulations. In fairness, MB isn't doing anything wrong but the FIA should have axed the design upon its submission.

Some dangerous regulating going on...

irunalot · 03-11-2022, 10:21 AM

Looks like KMag is happy to be back!

irunalot · 03-11-2022, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

It's not whining, Ferrari & others have a legitimate argument. Too break it down:

If it walks like a duck & quacks like a duck it's a duck.

If it looks like a wing & performs like a wing it's a wing.

MBs mirror mounts break the spirt and letter of the regulations. In fairness, MB isn't doing anything wrong but the FIA should have axed the design upon its submission.

Fair enough in our and Ferrari's interpenetration. Claim made move on is my point. I have no problem with how Ferrari is handling it, they save their "complaints" or arguments. That's part of any sport, but should not be abused to slow down all other teams nearly every time they do anything innovative. Ferrari has had some questionable mirror designs that were banned for the same reasons they are claiming here, so fair enough here and understood. Lets see what the FIA has to say.

The video I linked to earlier went over the mirrors and rules in great detail.

irunalot · 03-11-2022, 10:39 AM

Looks like the teams are starting to push and mid pack cars are showing some real pace. Man these cars have a horrible mid corner push.

///M Power-Belgium · 03-11-2022, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Oh it does,a lot. The late Lauda told Montezemolo that Merc were building a hybrid in 2007 then twisted FIA's arm to bring it in from the '14 season on 'green grounds'. Probably the biggest swindle in f1 history.

Just in !!!

The first dog fight of the '22 season is a fact...

'MAX vs Sainz . Good Lord !!!

M5Rick · 03-11-2022, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Just in !!!

The first dog fight of the '22 season is a fact...

'MAX vs Sainz . Good Lord !!!

Now that's a good clean fight..didn't HAM go off when he was challenged, as usual

M5Rick · 03-11-2022, 11:15 AM

Williams will have to re-think their aero for the rear to go onto the brakes more

irunalot · 03-11-2022, 11:15 AM

ok I'll give the man some credit here as I want to be fair. Now is this because they have a big upgrade coming tomorrow?

https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/3...edes-car-legal

NYG · 03-11-2022, 11:32 AM

Magnussen is lighting it up right now.

1:34.4 with 32 minutes remaining. P7

GETTING HYPED ABOUT THIS.

NYG · 03-11-2022, 11:42 AM

Lol Magnussen P1
1:33.207

LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

///M Power-Belgium · 03-11-2022, 11:51 AM

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Lol Magnussen P1
1:33.207

LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's exchange suits !

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Killed by Death Brigadier General 15706 Rep 4,246 Posts Drives: '23 X3 M40i Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	It's not whining, Ferrari & others have a legitimate argument. Too break it down: If it walks like a duck & quacks like a duck it's a duck. If it looks like a wing & performs like a wing it's a wing. MBs mirror mounts break the spirt and letter of the regulations. In fairness, MB isn't doing anything wrong but the FIA should have axed the design upon its submission.
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irunalot Captain 1537 Rep 823 Posts Drives: Porsche Carrera S Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Miami iTrader: (0)	Looks like the teams are starting to push and mid pack cars are showing some real pace. Man these cars have a horrible mid corner push.
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