MJ vs. Lebron/Kobe

[Litos]

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

These guys...


beat these guys... 9 times out of 10

doubt it.

Bron, Melo, Durant and Westbrook would run circles around Sir Charles, Bird (LOL), Mullin (LOL), Christian Laettner (LOL) and Magic.....

Tyson Chandler could muscle up with Ewing all day and poor ass John Stockton woule get lit by D-Will, Kobe or CP3 (pick your poison).

wouldn't even be fair....

only two people I'd take from that Dream Team would be Jordan and Robinson....and Stockton, but there's no way he's doing anything against these big motherfuckers in the league nowadays...CP3 would dominate his tits all over the floor.....

[GotEM4]

Yes, Kobe does have some MJ moves, BUT not all. MJ is still tops and will be for a very long time. Lebron would never play defense against Michael Jordan...He'll just do his famous trademark of "Lebroning" hollywood-act defense. Kobe is great, MJ is a legend!

[MediaArtist]

Originally Posted by emaguigad

Lebron would never play defense against Michael Jordan...He'll just do his famous trademark of "Lebroning" hollywood-act defense.

But but... according to Cheetos, Lebron is a monster. A physical specimen so big and strong he would simply plow over guys like Mutombo, and unathletic clowns like Hakeem, and David Robinson.

The Flopper King!

[Inspired]

Originally Posted by emaguigad

Yes, Kobe does have some MJ moves, BUT not all. MJ is still tops and will be for a very long time. Lebron would never play defense against Michael Jordan...He'll just do his famous trademark of "Lebroning" hollywood-act defense. Kobe is great, MJ is a legend!

Oh really? I guess he just magically become NBA defensive first team 5 times in a row.

[grimlock]

Litos, no way man - Bird, Magic, Jordan vs. the clowns in the league today? Hahaha that's really funny
But you can't really compare - just looks at those shorts they work back then! Dwight Howard wouldn't be able to concentrate!
No, physicall everybody is different, built differently, play different styles.. you can't really compare across time eras.
But those old names are magical.. only time will tell who's that are playing now are as good, Kobe, Lebron, Durant are all guaranteed superstars but you can't match them up in the same way you can't compare Usain Bolt with Ben Johnson because everything about their eras is different. But like what would happen if you it was flipped and Bolt was competing against Carl Lewis and Ben Johnson was 19yrs old today? DOn't you think he could run 9.5s? haha I'd like to see that

[GotEM4]

Originally Posted by Inspired

Oh really? I guess he just magically become NBA defensive first team 5 times in a row.

He got them by flopping...See post by MediaArtist...You wouldn't see MJ do that all the time...Lebron is like getting away with a speeding ticket all the time!

[Litos]

just because Bron flops doesn't mean he's not strong - he's a flopper, oh well.

did you see how hard Tyson Chandler hit him - he barely budged - he FLOPPED after the fact and went down, but it was a flop.

upon initial contact, Bron moved about 2" - and that's a 7'1" 250lb Tyson Chandler who is about 20-30lbs heavier than D. Robinson....

[Litos]

Originally Posted by grimlock

Litos, no way man - Bird, Magic, Jordan vs. the clowns in the league today? Hahaha that's really funny

why - the players in this era are bigger, faster and stronger - even the players who get drafted in the 3rd and 4th round.

the elite players of this decade are FAR SUPERIOR ATHLETICALLY than any elite player in the 80's.....

Originally Posted by grimlock

But those old names are magical..

they're magical because they were great players at the time where the NBA really started to come into it's own.

nobody gave 3 horse shits about the NBA in the 50's, 60's, 70's....

it wasn't until the legendary battles of Magic and Bird that put people in the seats and TV channels scrambling to get basketball on TV....

Originally Posted by grimlock

you can't match them up in the same way you can't compare Usain Bolt with Ben Johnson because everything about their eras is different.

everything about the era is different, but there are 2 variables in sprinting: 1) how fast you are and 2) how much you train

that's it....

in basketball, the difference in the two eras is ASTOUNDING in the way teams play defense, how they run an offense, pick and rolls with some of the most gifted athletes the NBA has ever seen, etc.....

there are waaaaay more variables that have changed in the two eras in basketball, then a straight up sprint between two dudes....

Usain Bolt is the fastest human being ever. his genetics combined with his training is what made him what he is today.

in sprinting, you're racing against a clock - you're not competing against a team that is about to double team you every time you try to perform your duties.....

fast is fast - and Usain Bolt would CRUSH the bejeezuz out of Carl Lewis and Ben Johnson in a straight up race....

[MediaArtist]

Originally Posted by Litos

just because Bron flops doesn't mean he's not strong - he's a flopper, oh well.

did you see how hard Tyson Chandler hit him - he barely budged - he FLOPPED after the fact and went down, but it was a flop.

upon initial contact, Bron moved about 2" - and that's a 7'1" 250lb Tyson Chandler who is about 20-30lbs heavier than D. Robinson....

Did you also see 210 pound JR Smith NOT TOUCH Lebron, and yet Lebron nearly fell into the crowd? Or what about KG barely turn his waist and Lebron fall on the ground like he got kicked in the nuts?

Sorry Flopper King may be the #1 or #2 player in the league at THIS time, but he's super soft, and would have gotten destroyed by the real NBA.

[MediaArtist]

Originally Posted by grimlock

But like what would happen if you it was flipped and Bolt was competing against Carl Lewis and Ben Johnson was 19yrs old today? DOn't you think he could run 9.5s? haha I'd like to see that

If they had the same knowledge of training, nutrition, building, and recovery that they have today? Hell yeah.

Carl Lewis was a MUCH better sprinting specimen than Tyson Gay ever was (longer stride, taller, etc), and guess what? 5'10 Tyson Gay has managed to mop the floor with Usain Bolt.

[Nkc]

Not here to fight...just a pic of Bron meeting Jordan when he was still in high school.

[Litos]

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

Sorry Flopper King may be the #1 or #2 player in the league at THIS time, but he's super soft, and would have gotten destroyed by the real NBA.

he wouldn't have flopped in the 80's, because no one flopped in the 80's

he would have been the heaviest and strongest person in the NBA in the 80's....

[Litos]

Originally Posted by Nkc

Not here to fight...just a pic of Bron meeting Jordan when he was still in high school.

Christ !!!!

look how much bigger he was in highschool than MJ !!!!

Bron has gained about 45lbs of muscle since then and has grown another inch or two..

[Litos]

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

5'10 Tyson Gay has managed to mop the floor with Usain Bolt.

Usain Bolt wasn't even trying HAHAHA !!!!

he probably had just rolled out of bed about 20 minutes before that run

Tyson Gay will NEVER run a 9.5 - ever....he's never had it in him to be that fast, not even with drugs in his body....he couldn't even do it if you moved his block up two meters

and Carl Lewis, pppffffffttttttt !!!!!!!

Carl was the Jesse Owens of this era (an all around great athlete), but his fastest time was a 9.86 - Bolt could do that if you moved his block BACK 5 meters....

Usain will run a 9.49 in his career - watch.....

[Nkc]

LOL Bron soft... He may flop from time to time and probably deserves an award of some sort for great acting but I wouldn't use soft to describe this man...

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by Litos

Usain Bolt is the fastest human being ever. his genetics combined with his training is what made him what he is today.

in sprinting, you're racing against a clock - you're not competing against a team that is about to double team you every time you try to perform your duties.....

fast is fast - and Usain Bolt would CRUSH the bejeezuz out of Carl Lewis and Ben Johnson in a straight up race....

I think it would be much closer that you would expect, Ben Johnson IMO was THE sprinting specimen, who knows where he could have been in today's world?

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

If they had the same knowledge of training, nutrition, building, and recovery that they have today? Hell yeah.

Carl Lewis was a MUCH better sprinting specimen than Tyson Gay ever was (longer stride, taller, etc), and guess what? 5'10 Tyson Gay has managed to mop the floor with Usain Bolt.

GAY-BOLT-JOHNSON would love to see that lineup

Gay does look like he is juiced in that video, Bolt is still sleeping

[Litos]

Originally Posted by grimlock

Gay does look like he is juiced in that video, Bolt is still sleeping

Bolt probably had eaten 2 bowls of Fruity Pebbles with WHOLE MILK about 10 minutes before that race HAHAHA !!!

and did ya'll see Bron last night - yeah, I know ya'll did

dude basically got punched in the face, and STILL was able to take two steps and posterize Ibaka.....

#hesamachineyall !!!!!

[MediaArtist]

Originally Posted by Litos

Usain Bolt wasn't even trying HAHAHA !!!!

he probably had just rolled out of bed about 20 minutes before that run

Oh was Bolt not trying here either?

Or what about when old ass, 6'1 ,Justin Gaitlin beat Bolt in Rome?

I guess Bolt is sleeping or not depending on how you have to justify your ridiculous argument, rigth Cheetos?

Legendary guys like Carl Lewis, and Michael Johnson wouldn't have a chance at beating Bolt in the 100m or 200m if they were in their primes today with modern training, but guys like Gay and Gaitlin can with regularity? Ooooooook Cheetos.

[grimlock]

MJ would have kicked his ass more often than not in the 200, and no way Bolt could beat Ben Johnson in the 60 - ever!

[MediaArtist]

Bolts fastest 200m time is only .1 of a second or about 1/4th of a stride faster than MJ's fastest 200m time. I have no doubt someone like MJ would be able to make that up in today's age.

Ben Johnson, I am not very high on, sorry. He's a cheater, and a fraud. Even in his comeback he couldn't help but dope.

[Litos]

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

Oh was Bolt not trying here either?

Or what about when old ass, 6'1 ,Justin Gaitlin beat Bolt in Rome?

I guess Bolt is sleeping or not depending on how you have to justify your ridiculous argument, rigth Cheetos?

Legendary guys like Carl Lewis, and Michael Johnson wouldn't have a chance at beating Bolt in the 100m or 200m if they were in their primes today with modern training, but guys like Gay and Gaitlin can with regularity? Ooooooook Cheetos.

1) nice video from 2007

2) Gatlin beat Bolt with a 9.94

I'm telling you, Bolt runs 9.7's and 9.6's even after eating pizzas and boning Jamaican hookers all week....

when it comes down to it, when it REALLY matters, Bolt is the best in the world - he is the fastest man ever recorded, period.

again, none of these idiots you've mentioned have ever come CLOSE to running the 9.56....not even close....NOT EVEN DOPED !!!!

[grimlock]

Originally Posted by MediaArtist

Bolts fastest 200m time is only .1 of a second or about 1/4th of a stride faster than MJ's fastest 200m time. I have no doubt someone like MJ would be able to make that up in today's age.

Ben Johnson, I am not very high on, sorry. He's a cheater, and a fraud. Even in his comeback he couldn't help but dope.

There was this documentary or something, it showed Linford Christie who was caught a few yrs later, and also Carl Lewis of all people was also doping .. just the USAA didn't want to catch him.
Admitedly, Ben was the only one who looked like a rabid animal on the day. What a natural, pity he couldn't find a way to do it properly .. or not get caught, if you believe everyone dopes and its just if you're on the right side or not