F1 2020: Bahrain GP - Sakhir (Nov 29)

///M Power-Belgium · 11-29-2020, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yco

nice timing for the pic mate..

he is lucky that he wasnt all covered with fuel and fire at least at the initial part a place for him for moments...

of course he has the best car cause he helped/helping developing the car and he is the best driver on the grid at his time for such a long time ever..

moreover Merc' is already working on W12.. as Wolff said many months ago.. Red Bull might start to catch up as they did.. instead of boosting like a baloon Max's ego each race at each radio talk, Red Bull can work harder.. but Red Bull talks hard only.. thats the problem..

and now this talk will go to places we went through million times that ignores facts, stats, reality of a team work and talent.. and more importantly lack of fair judgement multiplied by pure fanaticism ..

so cheers mate wishing you a good evening..

Yes mate . As I said It's a miracle . Romain was in hell's fire !
The man is a HERO !!!

JUST SWAP CARS . And we could finish our silly discussions forever..
Will never happen .And we know WHY ..

"Reputation and financial speculation"

M5Rick · 11-29-2020, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

DAS was developed with the blessing of the FIA and is 100 percent legal. Why are you surprised?

I'm not the only one that thinks they should not have made it ok to use as it's not steering but suspension mod which makes it illegal.Fia f* up.

///M Power-Belgium · 11-29-2020, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

I was going by a live follow from a motorsport site that said VER was catching HAM.

MAX was coming closer , for a moment the gap was 4.3 sec. Because HAM's tyres were completely shot !
That's why I said . MAX lost 3.5 sec. in the pit . That was actually the time of the gap . But that doesn't matter .
He had no chance...The W11 is a killer machine !
As for BOT ? BOT is the Merc's shame !
BOT can drive "one" fast lap during the QF . Because he's running the W11..
In the race ? BOT is ZERO and useless !!! BOT is a shame for the W11!

Won't change in the next seasons ...HAM in the W12-W13-W14 ('21,'22,'23)
Probably he will win 10 WDC's . At least if he stays at Mercedes !
Fantastic for Mercedes , but for the rest ...

Too bad for us and MAX . Boring races in the next 3 seasons are guaranteed !
The FIA only can change (*maybe*) the today's situation . Before no one is watching the boring F1 races anymore..

NorthernDancer · 11-29-2020, 03:24 PM

I haven't heard mention of the marshall I would consider the real hero. Ran across the track with a heavy fire extinguisher and was first on scene with the doctor. Was able to put a lot of the fire out allowing GRO to escape safely.

MKSixer · 11-29-2020, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

I was going by a live follow from a motorsport site that said VER was catching HAM.

He was catching him, but not at a rate to pass him in 5 laps. That is just fiction.

MKSixer · 11-29-2020, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

I'm not the only one that thinks they should not have made it ok to use as it's not steering but suspension mod which makes it illegal.Fia f* up.

Lol.

You do realize that the very act of turning the steering wheel changes the suspension? Yes?

DAS is legal. Anything else is simply going on in your head and the heads of all others complaining about it. Send a letter to RBR asking them to up their game rather than speculating on the other guys.

MKSixer · 11-29-2020, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I'm 100% sure , MAX would do it with the W11 !

But that's NO excuse my friend . As we know MAX runs in the slower RB16
MAX never had a chance in the slower RB16...

RB wasted (lost) 3 sec. with MAX in the pits . Even that doesn't matter anymore..
The W11 is 5 years ahead of the rest ...Coming out of a slower corner , the W11 looks like a catapult , it looked like MAX was standing still , while the W11 ran out of sight !
MAX said over the board radio : F@ck I've nothing to lose ! I floor it everywhere .But the Merc pulls away anyway...

Honestly if I was MAX I would be frustrated as well . Perhaps even more than he is ...

Like usual the advantage won the race today..
The W11 is the killer machine of the decade !

The DAS is chiefly used in lull periods. The Mercedes, in Lewis's hands, is a superior car. In BOTs hands, not so much making it no guarantee that it will be dominant in BOTs hands. The situation would be reversed if Lewis went to RBR to drive their chassis.

At the beginning of the race VER, once again, got wheelspin on the start. This is a VER problem, not a RBR problem. Lewis dropped him like a bad habit at the start but had to be careful in the race to maintain near optimum tire temps during the race.

Cheers, my friend-mk

///M Power-Belgium · 11-29-2020, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

Lol.

You do realize that the very act of turning the steering wheel changes the suspension? Yes?

DAS is legal. Anything else is simply going on in your head and the heads of all others complaining about it. Send a letter to RBR asking them to up their game rather than speculating on the other guys.

Of course DAS is legal . Approved by the FIA , doesn't matter how . But they did it !

And even that doesn't matter . What matters is : The other teams can't run with DAS ! Because they have zero idea how to develop DAS ...
The base of DAS they have . The rest in detail remains a mystery..
From that moment DAS "IS" advantage . Approved by the FIA ...

Of course everyone knows the FIA is a clowns circus !
The FIA made how the races looked like today ..Of course invented by Mercedes !

M5Rick · 11-29-2020, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Of course DAS is legal . Approved by the FIA , doesn't matter how . But they did it !

And even that doesn't matter . What matters is : The other teams can't run with DAS ! Because they have zero idea how to develop DAS ...
The base of DAS they have . The rest in detail remains a mystery..
From that moment DAS "IS" advantage . Approved by the FIA ...

Of course everyone knows the FIA is a clowns circus !
The FIA made how the races looked like today ..Of course invented by Mercedes !

Of course my friend,made das ok to use, hybrid engine pushed in by Merc with years of advantage. Might as well just not race and give them the trophy given such an advantage they have.. Todt is a well over his time.

FuzzyPeaches · 11-29-2020, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Of course DAS is legal . Approved by the FIA , doesn't matter how . But they did it !

And even that doesn't matter . What matters is : The other teams can't run with DAS ! Because they have zero idea how to develop DAS ...
The base of DAS they have . The rest in detail remains a mystery..
From that moment DAS "IS" advantage . Approved by the FIA ...

Of course everyone knows the FIA is a clowns circus !
The FIA made how the races looked like today ..Of course invented by Mercedes !

That's a problem for the other teams.... Not Mercedes and not the FIA.

///M Power-Belgium · 11-29-2020, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPeaches

That's a problem for the other teams.... Not Mercedes and not the FIA.

In other words : The Merc runs with advantages approved by the FIA

///M Power-Belgium · 11-29-2020, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Of course my friend,made das ok to use, hybrid engine pushed in by Merc with years of advantage. Might as well just not race and give them the trophy given such an advantage they have.. Todt is a well over his time.

Greetings from Romain in the hospital !

M5Rick · 11-29-2020, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Greetings from Romain in the hospital !

Apparently GRO's ribs are fine according to reports.

///M Power-Belgium · 11-29-2020, 04:27 PM

Romain's toasted cockpit tube ! Horror...

///M Power-Belgium · 11-29-2020, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Apparently GRO's ribs are fine according to reports.

Yes . Probably his ribs are bruised by the impact .
HAAS said : Romain had today an angel sitting on his shoulder...

Hands , fingers are burned through his gloves by gripping , holding the hot Halo and other hot stuff to get out the sea of fire...
The man is a Hero , that's for sure !

I'm so happy for him , that he survived it !

M5Rick · 11-29-2020, 04:40 PM

Watching the replay there was a cut out in the armco where the Haas impacted and the tub appears to me to have wedged into it.

///M Power-Belgium · 11-29-2020, 04:41 PM

Other angle . Pic from the backside of the barrier .
Mother of GOD !!!

M5Rick · 11-29-2020, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Other angle . Pic from the backside of the barrier .
Mother of GOD !!!

What do you think is the temp inside that fireball...

///M Power-Belgium · 11-29-2020, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

What do you think is the temp inside that fireball...

Probably thousands degrees . Because this was fuel in flames .
Race suit is +/- 800° fire resistant , but only for a few seconds ...
It's for sure it was a matter of seconds . His lungs would be burned by the heat .

At first sight I thought he went (flew) over the barrier.
But actually the cockpit-tube went (punctured) through the barrier !
Again ...It's a miracle !

///M Power-Belgium · 11-29-2020, 05:46 PM

Lost in words..

M5Rick · 11-29-2020, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Lost in words..

O lucky man!

Bongoxxx · 11-29-2020, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

In other words : The Merc runs with advantages approved by the FIA

No, no you’ve got it wrong.

Other teams, including Red Bull are lacking in their development and ingenuity and can’t keep up with Merc.

There is nothing stopping the other teams from developing their cars, they just simply don’t have the talent top to bottom that Merc does.

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M5Rick General 68560 Rep 22,079 Posts Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	Watching the replay there was a cut out in the armco where the Haas impacted and the tub appears to me to have wedged into it.
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