Alfa Romeo Giulia, including 510 hp Quadrifoglio Verde M3 competitor

[Mavus]

so you take it to a track and play cat and mouse with GT3 ... ridiculous!!

[EfEightyM3]

Originally Posted by Smooth 330i

so you take it to a track and play cat and mouse with GT3 ... ridiculous!!

A GT3 from 10 years ago, lol...and if you put equal tires (QV ran cups) then no.

[buddalun]

Looks good in white. Would have looked even better if the side mirrors were part of the doors, but I'm just nitpicking.

[PatrikG]

It's growing on me but I'm not sure if I would pick this one over the M3, C63 or the RS4 for that matter.

[flat-beat-eric]

http://www.bridgetogantry.com/blog-w...ull/#more-1936

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by flat-beat-eric

http://www.bridgetogantry.com/blog-w...ull/#more-1936

it is a shocking time for the price, but it could be true.interested in seeing reviews

[Desmo85]

Originally Posted by flat-beat-eric

http://www.bridgetogantry.com/blog-w...ull/#more-1936

I absolutely agree. In fact if it turns out that Alfa was not telling the truth, they will kill their unborn child.
I want a Video with an unedited run around the track and on the dyno by a neutral tester. Who knows how much they´ve beefed up the hardware.

[ShocknAwe]

Time will tell if they are over or under-reporting the cars capabilities.

[focal]

faster than the Cayman GT4's 7:40

[8k3]

Originally Posted by focal

faster than the Cayman GT4's 7:40

Tough to imagine, I drove a Cayman GTS and that was a very capable car, could only imagine the GT4. The Alpha claims are too good to be true

[imserious]

The other problem is that the car is ugly. Yup. Ugly can happen to Alfa, too.

[Elsabor67]

Alfa Romeo took a page out of McLaren's book and did the same shit when McLaren posted a video with snippet pieces of the P1 going around the Nordschleife like a beast on roods claiming that they made it under 7 minutes.............

I'm still waiting for the P1 full video going around the 'Ring in under 7:00. And if Dale from the BTG site could keep up with the Giulia with a Seat Leon Cupra wagon, a 4 banger turbo at that, on a tourist driving day, it makes you wonder if it can actually do the 7:39 they claim. Keep in mind that the guys in the Alfa are supposed to be professional drivers and Dale is a blogger that does drive endurance races, Nurburgring 24 hour Races, VLN series races and does ringtaxi drives.

[AlexR6]

Originally Posted by Elsabor67

Alfa Romeo took a page out of McLaren's book and did the same shit when McLaren posted a video with snippet pieces of the P1 going around the Nordschleife like a beast on roods claiming that they made it under 7 minutes.............

I'm still waiting for the P1 full video going around the 'Ring in under 7:00. And if Dale from the BTG site could keep up with the Giulia with a Seat Leon Cupra wagon, a 4 banger turbo at that, on a tourist driving day, it makes you wonder if it can actually do the 7:39 they claim. Keep in mind that the guys in the Alfa are supposed to be professional drivers and Dale is a blogger that does drive endurance races, Nurburgring 24 hour Races, VLN series races and does ringtaxi drives.

In that video the car is driven by two engineers who were working on the brakes, so they are professional for sure but not pro drivers at all.

And the lap time 7.39 is true and done with one of the first cars built for the "process verification" of the assembly line. It's not even the final car!
Knowing the driver and the car, I think he can even lap under 7.39 at the Ring, but we'll see when they make the video as happened in the past with the 4C.

[ga41]

Originally Posted by AlexR6

In that video the car is driven by two engineers who were working on the brakes, so they are professional for sure but not pro drivers at all.

And the lap time 7.39 is true and done with one of the first cars built for the "process verification" of the assembly line. It's not even the final car!
Knowing the driver and the car, I think he can even lap under 7.39 at the Ring, but we'll see when they make the video as happened in the past with the 4C.

I really, really want that to be true. It's not that i'm in the market for one or anything but it's about time that Alfa got its mojo back!

[zer0cool]

The car is SOOOOOOOOOO FUGLY... more ugly than the new Prius... hurts my eyes...

[zer0cool]

Car is soooooo fugly, more so than the new prius... hurts my eyes...

Hope I never see one anywhere.

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by zer0cool

Car is soooooo fugly, more so than the new prius... hurts my eyes...

Hope I never see one anywhere.

that's its only downfall i would say that's based purely off the spec sheet and marketing info

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

the Alfa will be a much more desirable car than any M3, that's for damn sure. There's something about cars that are built with passion rather than just for board members. The M3 is a car built out of 1)obligation....the Alfa is a car that is built with energy and a desire to save a company----it's going to be great.

2)Nothing BMW or Mercedes are building right now carries any emotion.....3)they are just exercises in building what they have to build to maintain themselves..

Alfa Romeo, as a marque, is a far more glorious and historic marque than BMW could ever be....in fact they are the company BMW aspired to be back in the 60s. They have hit some roadblocks thanks to Fiat screwing them up----but if they can get back up it will be fantastic. This is the second sign of life after the crazy 4C.

1) Of course it is built out of obligation. You can't just make 4 generations of a car, have amazing demand and history for it, and then just stop one day.

2)I have no interest in Mercedes so I won't comment on them. BMW has been lacking in the emotion department for some time, but how do you explain the M2, M4 GTS, M4 CSL, and new supercar that they are rumored to be working on with Mclaren? Just saying they have some spark in them left.

3)You are right...just to maintain themselves. What do you want them to do not make the car when they know it will make them money and sustain? Growth and prosperity are the goals of a company not to die out. You're blaming them for staying alive. However I get your point in that they can go about different ways of staying alive by producing a car that has pure passion in it versus a formula driven car.

I'm not really arguing your points and most of what you said is true. If the lap time of the alfa is true then that is a true passion car. It's amazing what it can do, but you can't blame big corporations for still producing great performance cars and even going into the true enthusiast territory. BMW doesn't need to do what Alfa is doing because they sleep easy at night knowing their i brand is sustaining them and will for the future. Alfa has night sweats.

[Elsabor67]

Originally Posted by AlexR6

In that video the car is driven by two engineers who were working on the brakes, so they are professional for sure but not pro drivers at all.

And the lap time 7.39 is true and done with one of the first cars built for the "process verification" of the assembly line. It's not even the final car!
Knowing the driver and the car, I think he can even lap under 7.39 at the Ring, but we'll see when they make the video as happened in the past with the 4C.

I don't doubt what you are saying @AlexR6, I am doubting though the 7:39 time with a pre-production car that allegedly did this timed lap on a Nordschleife that currently has speed limits on certain sections and with production time laps being suspended by Nurburgring management for the year.

Now, if that lap is true, why has the video not been released? It's the same as McLaren did with the P1. Oh yea!!!!! We did under 7 minutes but we're not releasing the video. In my view, no video, no lap time. It's like me saying I did the 'Ring in 8 minutes and not produce the evidence. (lowest I've done is 8:59 though )

Now, When the final car is ready they can give it again to Horst Von Saurna and go at it again and see of the final product can actually do what it says. Until then most of the enthusiast community will dismiss it as hot air.

On another note, Da dove sei en Italia? Mia moglie e da Ginosa, Provincia di Taranto, Puglia.

[AlexR6]

Originally Posted by Elsabor67

I don't doubt what you are saying @AlexR6, I am doubting though the 7:39 time with a pre-production car that allegedly did this timed lap on a Nordschleife that currently has speed limits on certain sections and with production time laps being suspended by Nurburgring management for the year.

Now, if that lap is true, why has the video not been released? It's the same as McLaren did with the P1. Oh yea!!!!! We did under 7 minutes but we're not releasing the video. In my view, no video, no lap time. It's like me saying I did the 'Ring in 8 minutes and not produce the evidence. (lowest I've done is 8:59 though )

Now, When the final car is ready they can give it again to Horst Von Saurna and go at it again and see of the final product can actually do what it says. Until then most of the enthusiast community will dismiss it as hot air.

On another note, Da dove sei en Italia? Mia moglie e da Ginosa, Provincia di Taranto, Puglia.

Nordschleife has speed limits but there is no real countermeasure to force people respecting them. And honestly, I think they have a faster driver that Horst Von Saurma, especially because he is driving the car since last year.

Anyway I agree that claim a certain laptime without releasing a video is not a smart move... but this is up to marketing guys!

Oh... and I'm not currently located in Italy but my parents are from Puglia as well, Lecce to be precise.

[Dackelone]

I totally agree with what Elsabor67 said/posted. Alfa's lap time is total BS...




more background on Alfa's 'Ring lap claim...
http://www.bridgetogantry.com/blog-w...me-is-pr-bull/

[bimmerfrk]

I will definitely test drive this as I have an e90 m3. If I trade it will be for this crazy awesome car with a Ferrari engine.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/al...o-show-2015-11