F1 2024: Dutch GP - Zandvoort (Aug 25)

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Fueling and minor adjustments mid race, with mandatory 1-2 pits per race.

Small displacement. High revving engines with 70s Era European car reliability.

It would be like rolling the dice every week. I promise you Sauber and Haas would have at least 1 podium a year with these rules.

People say return to V8's, V12's etc but I also liked the twin turbo V6's 1.5's of the eighties giving up to 1500hp in quali like in the Bennetons, then less for the race to be more driveable over the race distance and that's what we need now not this hybrid money drainer.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

People say return to V8's, V12's etc but I also liked the twin turbo V6's 1.5's of the eighties giving up to 1500hp in quali like in the Bennetons, then less for the race to be more driveable over the race distance and that's what we need now not this hybrid money drainer.

I heard about the era - I heard that cars could be spitting sideways on full throttle upshifts during quail when it was turned up. Unfortunately I missed out on it...Came around near the middle of Schumacher's era.

I was super bummed when he was beat out by Fernando (it was the end of an era) and PUMPED when I saw Lewis, as a rookie beat out the current world champion.

I just want it to be interesting - this season is close, but we could spice it up a bit more.

[G30M]

so F1 is back. Apparently McLaren have been using differential braking system (thought to be a G force controlled actuator) to help them corner ... which is now banned ...

[CMW33]

Originally Posted by G30M

so F1 is back. Apparently McLaren have been using differential braking system (thought to be a G force controlled actuator) to help them corner ... which is now banned ...

Where is the source that says it is McLaren?

[Davil]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

People say return to V8's, V12's etc but I also liked the twin turbo V6's 1.5's of the eighties giving up to 1500hp in quali like in the Bennetons, then less for the race to be more driveable over the race distance and that's what we need now not this hybrid money drainer.

The BMW M12 was a 1.5L 4 cylinder turbo based on the M10 as seen in 2002 and 318i. It was nuts. 1400hp! I had an e21 320 and later an e30 318i in the 80s with the M10. So I used to tell people it was the same engine as my car.

Wouldn’t you just love to see BMW back in F1. Yes I know it will never happen.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by CMW33

Where is the source that says it is McLaren?

lol i read an analyst on Facebook (can't seem to find it now)

can't see it anywhere else on the internet either

i guess we will know after this weekend

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Davil

The BMW M12 was a 1.5L 4 cylinder turbo based on the M10 as seen in 2002 and 318i. It was nuts. 1400hp! I had an e21 320 and later an e30 318i in the 80s with the M10. So I used to tell people it was the same engine as my car.

Wouldn’t you just love to see BMW back in F1. Yes I know it will never happen.

Shame BMW won't be back as you say instead Audi trying their luck to increase sales of EV's with a stab at F1 but all I see is pain for them.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by G30M

so F1 is back. Apparently McLaren have been using differential braking system (thought to be a G force controlled actuator) to help them corner ... which is now banned ...

This is all new, must have been a grey area then.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by Davil

The BMW M12 was a 1.5L 4 cylinder turbo based on the M10 as seen in 2002 and 318i. It was nuts. 1400hp! I had an e21 320 and later an e30 318i in the 80s with the M10. So I used to tell people it was the same engine as my car.

Wouldn’t you just love to see BMW back in F1. Yes I know it will never happen.

My dad had a 81 320is (sport package, LSD, BBS wheels, Fog lights, etc) with the M10. I had no idea!

[3798j]

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[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

...but then with what Marko says about not finding a good solution after the holiday, when two weeks must pass before you touch the cars, is Marko just saying that, they have a bit more time or he's sandbagging. If not then as usual it's down to the MAX Factor,same as it ever was so what's new?

Don't think that Marko is sandbagging...
Pierre Waché : We reached the limit with the RB20 , to be competitive again in 2025 we need a complete new car (!)

The Zandvoort weather forecast (update)
A strong wind , up to to 60 kph !

This will affect the cars downforce ....

[3798j]

"I was really happy with my driving before the break and it was good to get the win in Hungary and second place in Spa,"
"I'm looking forward to getting back in the car in Zandvoort as it's always a good race weekend, especially with cool characteristics like the steep banking.
"I'll be working hard to keep on improving my position in the championship." - - - Oscar Piastri

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-...bull/104245162

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Don't think that Marko is sandbagging...
Pierre Waché : We reached the limit with the RB20 , to be competitive again in 2025 we need a complete new car (!)

The Zandvoort weather forecast (update)
A strong wind , up to to 60 kph !

This will affect the cars downforce ....

With regards to what you were saying about a computer prediction, the Top Offshore Sportsbook Supercomputer has predicted that the Larens will win the Constructors while MAX takes the DT.
So with the whole thing seemingly hanging on in Checo's court if he can do somethings without crashing or finishing with just a few points changes his name to Sergio Gamble

This thing about McLaren using a diff based axle swing balance from left to right and vice versa on turns is a bit mysterious.

[3798j]

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[AmuroRay]

RB is saying that their car is maxed out - RB might be in trouble for the rest of the season and next.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/r...ache/10645818/

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

With regards to what you were saying about a computer prediction, the Top Offshore Sportsbook Supercomputer has predicted that the Larens will win the Constructors while MAX takes the DT.
So with the whole thing seemingly hanging on in Checo's court if he can do somethings without crashing or finishing with just a few points changes his name to Sergio Gamble

This thing about McLaren using a diff based axle swing balance from left to right and vice versa on turns is a bit mysterious.

=> https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/w...ange/10645992/

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

=> https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/w...ange/10645992/

FIA can't prove anything on the say so of a rival team who think someone is using a split balance rear brake system. That's not to say McLarens sudden performance boost shouldn't be looked into seing all the suggestive media guessings with the vids on the RB 20 including Windsor's mistaken assumption.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

FIA can't prove anything on the say so of a rival team who think someone is using a split balance rear brake system. That's not to say McLarens sudden performance boost shouldn't be looked into seing all the suggestive media guessings with the vids on the RB 20 including Windsor's mistaken assumption.

Checo will run at Zandvoort with the RB20 without the upgrades like in the beginning of this season.
But , I'm pretty sure . Checo will fail again .

I think we'll see only the McLarens and Mercedes at the Zandvoort podium.
The RB20 really s@cks at this moment .
If MAX runs a top-3 , then is it by the MAX-Factor.
It is what it is ....

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Checo will run at Zandvoort with the RB20 without the upgrades like in the beginning of this season.
But , I'm pretty sure . Checo will fail again .

I think we'll see only the McLarens and Mercedes at the Zandvoort podium.
The RB20 really s@cks at this moment .
If MAX runs a top-3 , then is it by the MAX-Factor.
It is what it is ....

Probably for his own safety with less chance of him crashing, got to say you paint a pretty grim picture for MAX but Marko did say an improvement may come at Monza.

[Davil]

Originally Posted by 3798j

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Wow. Actual 1500 blocks from scrapyards. Fascinating.

[Davil]

I can’t wait for this race. My son and I are going through withdrawal. It’s a great track. Let the second half of the season unfold. And what a bloody great season 2024 is.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by 3798j

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Those tee shirts are around £210, someone in LA is making money out of cotton twill.