Lewis vs. Max

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Oh please.

My friend . Congrats for the GOAT anyway !

Top 3 won't change in this season and in the 21' season .

Next season depends also from COVID . Over here the virus-outbreaks are TERRIFYING !!!

[minn19]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

1- Last year the Mercs Party-Mode was ruling with 1080 HP .
2- The Mercs tires cooling invention-cheating worked outstanding as well...

BOT got today a red led popping up , and suddenly he got lack of power while he was P1 !
Made by Toto and HAM's overtake was a few laps later a fact .

1. Last year Ferraris cheating party mode was ruling. No party mode now for qualifying and VER still can’t quite get there? Should MB have to run with skinnier tires just so poor VER can be competitive?

2. Agreed it should be against the rules and probably will be next year, but it hasn’t always worked flawlessly (Silverstone) and they were dominant without it. Plus other teams aren’t being stopped from developing something similar.

3. HAM had already ran down BOT before the overheat warning. Even with that VER still couldn’t catch even BOT?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by minn19

1. Last year Ferraris cheating party mode was ruling. No party mode now for qualifying and VER still can’t quite get there? Should MB have to run with skinnier tires just so poor VER can be competitive?

2. Agreed it should be against the rules and probably will be next year, but it hasn’t always worked flawlessly (Silverstone) and they were dominant without it. Plus other teams aren’t being stopped from developing something similar.

3. HAM had already ran down BOT before the overheat warning. Even with that VER still couldn’t catch even BOT?

MAX had to start the race on softs .
12 laps later his tires were already completely shot with only 10 % left..


The Mercs ran +/- 40 laps on mediums with DAS ! Mercs tires last forever today !

[minn19]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

On another note:

Race Wins:

Senna - 41
Prost - 51+
HAM = 92

Ironically, this represents the transition in Hamilton's career from a Senna-"esque" driver to a Prost-"esque" driver.

His explanation of his thought and action process during the opening laps was a clinic. Compare this to Max speaking of Perez, "HE didn't leave me enough room so HE took HIMSELF out of the race."

Once Max decides to drive his own car he will get the result all of his fans wish for.

^This, I said it two years ago after the Ocon incident. If VER matures he will be dominant. If he doesn’t, he won’t no matter what car he is in most likely. We disagreed as to whose fault that incident was, but it was/should of been easily avoidable by VER.

It’s been two years since the Ocon incident. There have been a lot of other bad incidents including/leading up to this weekend he keeps getting himself into. Last year in Spa’s first corner where he crashed and tried to continue with an obviously broken suspension/steering equipment was the worst of them IMO. He put a lot of people in danger with that idiotic move. So maybe he won’t before it’s too late. Talent/youth as most of us here know doesn’t last forever.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

My friend . Congrats for the GOAT anyway !

Top 3 won't change in this season and in the 21' season .

Next season depends also from COVID . Over here the virus-outbreaks are TERRIFYING !!!

Thanks for being a good sportsman.

Originally Posted by minn19

1. Last year Ferraris cheating party mode was ruling. No party mode now for qualifying and VER still can’t quite get there? Should MB have to run with skinnier tires just so poor VER can be competitive?

2. Agreed it should be against the rules and probably will be next year, but it hasn’t always worked flawlessly (Silverstone) and they were dominant without it. Plus other teams aren’t being stopped from developing something similar.

3. HAM had already ran down BOT before the overheat warning. Even with that VER still couldn’t catch even BOT?

Spot on!!

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX had to start the race on softs .
12 laps later his tires were already completely shot with only 10 % left..

The Mercs ran +/- 40 laps on mediums with DAS !

Complaining about Lewis and the Mercs will never help Max and Red Bull win. They need to go into media hibernation and develop their own car and Max needs to get some counseling to get his head right. Lewis is living there, rent free.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX had to start the race on softs .
12 laps later his tires were already completely shot with only 10 % left..


The Mercs ran +/- 40 laps on mediums with DAS ! Mercs tires last forever today !

He had to as in had no choice? He had the advantage for the first few laps and did nothing with it. Except fall back to his usual panic mode and run into somebody.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by minn19

^This, I said it two years ago after the Ocon incident. If VER matures he will be dominant. If he doesn’t, he won’t no matter what car he is in most likely. We disagreed as to whose fault that incident was, but it was/should of been easily avoidable by VER.

It’s been two years since the Ocon incident. There have been a lot of other bad incidents including/leading up to this weekend he keeps getting himself into. Last year in Spa’s first corner where he crashed and tried to continue with an obviously broken suspension/steering equipment was the worst of them IMO. He put a lot of people in danger with that idiotic move. So maybe he won’t before it’s too late. Talent/youth as most of us here know doesn’t last forever.

Are you calling me old?!?!!!

You would be correct.

You make the most valid point that can be made about Max. He MUST mature before he is able to mount a championship run. Even with a great car he won't make it with his current state of mind. Of his 9 wins, only 1 has been of championship caliber and that was this year. That isn't a good stat.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Are you calling me old?!?!!!

You would be correct.

You make the most valid point that can be made about Max. He MUST mature before he is able to mount a championship run. Even with a great car he won't make it with his current state of mind. Of his 9 wins, only 1 has been of championship caliber and that was this year. That isn't a good stat.

I was unfortunately referring to myself as well.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by minn19

He had to as in had no choice? He had the advantage for the first few laps and did nothing with it. Except fall back to his usual panic mode and run into somebody.

MAX held his line inside . Perez changed from line and banged wheels with MAX .
MAX could go nowhere....

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by minn19

He had to as in had no choice? He had the advantage for the first few laps and did nothing with it. Except fall back to his usual panic mode and run into somebody.

100% This.

VS Lewis who said (appx), "I saw that it was very slick and decided to let them get by me and come back at them later." This is the thought process of a champion.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX held his line inside . Perez change from line and banged wheels with MAX .
MAX could go nowhere....

Sure, go with that it is always someone else’s fault. Funny how Max is usually the common denominator here.

And he was behind PER at the time he spun him. But it’s PER’s fault?

By the way GAS didn’t seem to have any trouble with the softs in the early stages of the race.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

1- Last year the Mercs Party-Mode was ruling with 1080 HP .
2- The Mercs tires cooling invention-cheating worked outstanding as well...

BOT got today a red led popping up , and suddenly he got lack of power while he was P1 !
Made by Toto and HAM's overtake was a few laps later a fact .

BOT was shafted again while leading so Wolff's golden boy would get those 92.
There is only one seat in Merc for a world championship contender in Merc..that's why Max and Jos decided on no to Merc.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

BOT was shafted again while leading so Wolff's golden boy would get those 92.
There is only one seat in Merc for a world championship contender in Merc..that's why Max and Jos decided on no to Merc.

Because if they did now Max would be the new BOT, and he would be #2. Glad you finally agree. Took a while.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

Because if they did now Max would be the new BOT, and he would be #2. Glad you finally agree. Took a while.

This.

He had 2 chances to take the seat and refused. Completely scared to face HAM.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

This.

He had 2 chances to take the seat and refused. Completely scared to face HAM.

No you've got the wrong end of the stick.My point was that VER WOULDN'T be allowed to race against HAM,something you want to shut out and please don't pretend it's something else.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

No you've got the wrong end of the stick.My point was that VER WOULDN'T be allowed to race against HAM,something you want to shut out and please don't pretend it's something else.

The truth hurts. No conditions at Mercedes. Max and Jos said "It wouldn't be good for his career at this point to be paired with HAM."

He ran from HAM in 2017.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

The truth hurts. No conditions at Mercedes. Max and Jos said "It wouldn't be good for his career at this point to be paired with HAM."

He ran from HAM in 2017.

Say what you like but you don't know F1 as much as you think my fellow forum member

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by minn19

Sure, go with that it is always someone else’s fault. Funny how Max is usually the common denominator here.

And he was behind PER at the time he spun him. But it’s PER’s fault?

By the way GAS didn’t seem to have any trouble with the softs in the early stages of the race.

^ This

It would have been good to see PER on the podium. He was impressive in the first few laps. Before VER span him out.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

This.

He had 2 chances to take the seat and refused. Completely scared to face HAM.

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

No you've got the wrong end of the stick.My point was that VER WOULDN'T be allowed to race against HAM,something you want to shut out and please don't pretend it's something else.

There is news regarding the SWAP !!!
Merc (Toto) responded by a invitation for MAX !

But just for a Merc test drive ? There's nothing regarding the SWAP of the cars ?
MAX requested to swap cars ? Isn't that really strange ?

=> http://techzle.com/mercedes-verstapp...-us-for-a-test

[FuzzyPeaches]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Say what you like but you don't know F1 as much as you think my fellow forum member

What qualifications do you have to say that you know F1 better than anyone else here?

I'll wait.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPeaches

What qualifications do you have to say that you know F1 better than anyone else here?

I'll wait.

I never said I know F1 more than anyone else on here, read my post again.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

There is news regarding the SWAP !!!
Merc (Toto) responded by a invitation for MAX !

But just for a Merc test drive ? There's nothing regarding the SWAP of the cars ?
MAX requested to swap cars ? Isn't that really strange ?

=> http://techzle.com/mercedes-verstapp...-us-for-a-test

Just a test drive on his own? Looks like there are are two chickens at Brackley.